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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">This may be a likely
outcome, but it merely strengthens my argument that some kind
of regulatory action is required to ensure that those who have
the power to block traffic do so only for legitimate reasons.
Blocking traffic for individuals who utilize their data
protection rights is totally unacceptable. <br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie Perrin</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-12-07 17:20, Rubens Kuhl wrote:<br>
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Consent is likely an avenue for those registrants that want to be
RDS-listed in order to gain trust among Internet users.
Hypothetical scenario: default is not being publicly-listed, and
then people start blocking domains massively. In such a scenario,
registrants that want more reach and trust from end-users, might
want to consent to being publicly-listed. As long as lack of
consent doesn't prevent service from contracted parties, it might
be useful and I think we should consider this angle when time
comes in the PDP.
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<div class="">On 7 Dec 2017, at 20:05, Chuck <<a
href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">consult@cgomes.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The fact
that the requirements for consent are demanding does
not mean that we should not consider it in our
deliberations on access when we get there in our
work. I doubt that a consent process will suffice by
itself in solving access issues but it is certainly
one avenue that the letter pointed out as a possible
avenue. I think we will need to explore that further
when we deliberate on access. For now, let’s focus on
purposes and in particular Domain Name Management as a
purpose.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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class="">From:</b><span
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[<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On
Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ayden
Férdeline<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday,
December 7, 2017 12:42 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>John
Bambenek <<a
href="mailto:jcb@bambenekconsulting.com" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">jcb@bambenekconsulting.com</a>><br
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<b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Article 29 Working Party to ICANN<o:p
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">No, not
necessarily. The criteria for obtaining valid,
freely-given consent is demanding, and one cannot be
asked to consent to processing that is otherwise
unlawful. We were told in the first legal memo
from WSGR that consent is not a silver bullet here.<o:p
class=""></o:p></div>
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11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Subject:
Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Article 29 Working Party to
ICANN<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Time: 7 December 2017 8:18 PM<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><o:p
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11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">To:
Volker Greimann <<a
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>><o:p
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">This
interpretation is wrong. The latter clearly says
that consent in the current system is not clearly
given. If a domain holder had the free and
informed option to publish information in whois or
not THIS ISSUE IS SOLVED. <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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class="">On Dec 7, 2017, at 17:59, Volker
Greimann <<a
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>
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<div class="">Hi Michele,<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div class="">I read this a final and very clear
warning from the European DPAs to ICANN and its
contracted parties to stop messing about and
start getting ready in time for May 25. The
references to previous notices make it very
clear that there will be no consideration given
after that date. While the letter contains
nothing new to anyone who has paid any
attention, it is very clear in its message:
Public Whois is illegal in its current shape and
form, and there is no way to make it legal
without making it non-public.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div class="">Best,<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div class="">Volker<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Michele Neylon - Blacknight:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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<pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class="">I'd highly recommend that you take the time to read the latest letter from the Article 29 Working Party to ICANN:<o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
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