<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">That’s a fact +1 Stephanie <br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">Kris</div><div><br>On 8 Dec 2017, at 06:08, Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">The problem Rubens, at
          the risk of getting philosophical and causing Chuck to shut
          down this conversation, is that most end users do not
          understand how this works. They do not understand online
          advertising, scraping, how algorithms work, what they should
          look for on their browser, how to protect their machines, what
          to do with their bluetooth connections, why they should ask
          their car dealer where their geo-positioning and cell traffic
          data is shared.....and they certainly do not understand how
          cybercrime is fought, how reputation systems could harm them,
          who is harvesting their data, why it matters if an ID theft
          gang on the other side of the globe has all their personal
          data.  I can go on for pages about what they don't understand
          about food safety, water safety, basic health management
          including immunization, first aid, diet, agricultural
          practices, chemicals and pesticides used in the home, you name
          it....anyone who has worked at all in consumer education knows
          how hard these basic matters are, and how difficult the job
          has become in our complex, information rich global society.<br>
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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">The noncommercial
          users constituency has been trying to make this point since it
          was formed.  Life is too complex to dump all this on the end
          user.  There is a fiduciary responsibility here. Cries that an
          open WHOIS is necessary for consumer protection is, (begging
          the pardon of all those who have advanced that argument),
          utter nonsense.  All consumer protection agencies know that in
          western democracies you have to aim consumer information at a
          grade 6 reading level.  This job becomes much harder where the
          literacy rate is lower, or there are language barriers.  There
          is a wealth of research on how difficult it is to get basic
          self protection information into the hands of citizens.
          Doubtless in the early days, Jon Postel and his pals who
          appeared in WHOIS understood everything they read in WHOIS,
          but they were building the Internet with post graduate
          degrees, not wandering on to it after their day jobs at
          minimum wage.  And now, with resellers and hosting and lawyers
          and numbered companies representing the registrants...it is a
          maze.  It is not responsible to throw people out on that and
          expect them to manage.  Therefore, </font></font><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande"><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">where there are fiduciary
              responsibilities, responsible actors should shoulder them,
              not foist them off on the end user. Protection of the name
              address phone number and email of registrants is a pretty
              basic concept.  REgistrants who are individuals should be
              contacted through a non-personally identifiable contact
              email such as <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:abuse@whatever.com">abuse@whatever.com</a>.  Phone number is going
              to have to be a trusted third party.<br>
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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">As for people
          selecting only sites that have identifiable registrants....Responsible
          governments should be legislating e-commerce.  Consumers
          should be educated not to provide financial information to
          un-trusted, unauthenticated sites, which is quite different
          from being able to look up a registrant in a public WHOIS
          directory.  Payment mechanisms and intermediaries should be
          accredited, authenticated, and independently verifiable during
          transactions.  When it comes to free speech, people can read
          what they read and I don't see a role for ICANN or any of the
          intermediaries who are discussing the blocking of traffic to
          interfere.  I recognize that people apparently cannot tell
          truth from fiction and fantasy but this is a profoundly
          difficult problem we have grappled with for centuries and I
          doubt we are going to solve it here....</font></font></p>
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    <p>Ok I quit now.</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-12-07 20:28, Rubens Kuhl wrote:<br>
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      <div class="">More than servers, it's quite likely that the same
        way people current turn "SafeBrowsing" (lookup of known bad
        sites) on and off, or adult content filters on and off, they
        will configure their browsers to access or not sites with no
        public registrant information. It's not a question of a minority
        of big servers and a majority of registrants; it's more of a
        minority of registrants and a majority of end-users that will
        vote with their feet whether they like it or not. But since the
        Internet is older than 21 years, I believe we can leave the
        choice to free will of all parties involved. </div>
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      <div class="">Rubens</div>
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            <div class="">On 7 Dec 2017, at 23:03, Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>
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                      caller ID debates back in the 90s, I can certainly
                      provide a number of examples of instances where
                      people needed to not be wearing their name on
                      someone else's phone.  Medical clinics of all
                      kinds, suicide prevention centres, women's
                      shelters, hotlines, etc.  There is a big
                      difference between refusing to accept a call if
                      you don't recognize the name on the display,
                      (bearing in mind that caller ID does not block the
                      core, just the display) and rejecting all traffic
                      through a server if it is not identified.  Noone
                      is suggesting that tiered access would not be
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                      in arguing this anymore.  Your servers, your
                      rules.  The Internet has become the backbone of
                      global commerce, and if you think that maxim will
                      last then who am I to argue.  You guys are running
                      the system and if those of us who think it is
                      unfair to end users don't like it, we can always
                      go back to the postal service (for a few years at
                      least, until it gets replaced by drones operated
                      through the Internet....)  <br class="">
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-12-07 17:46, Rod
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                  Indeed, the old adage is, "my network, my rules."
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                  <div class="">One could argue that depending on the
                    legal regime you are under where some strong form of
                    “net neutrality” actually exists, then some public
                    networks (telcos/residential ISPs) could be
                    compelled in such a manner.  Private networks,
                    military networks, even government networks that are
                    not tied to public inputs cannot be compelled to
                    accept anyone's traffic regardless of rational.</div>
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                  <div class="">For an imperfect analogy, I never, ever
                    answer a call when the caller ID says, “User
                    Unknown” or the equivalent, i.e. someone asserting
                    their privacy rights and not providing me with the
                    opportunity to understand who may be trying to
                    communicate with me. I sure wouldn’t want someone to
                    force me to do so just because they feel they should
                    be able to reach me even if they refuse to tell me
                    who they are.</div>
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                  <div class="">Cheers,</div>
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                        <div class="">On Dec 7, 2017, at 2:30 PM, John
                          Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>>
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                            You seem to be under the impression you (or
                            anyone else) has the right to have their
                            traffic accepted on my network. Where does
                            this notion come from?<br class="">
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                            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/07/2017
                              04:24 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:<br class="">
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                                    may be a likely outcome, but it
                                    merely strengthens my argument that
                                    some kind of regulatory action is
                                    required to ensure that those who
                                    have the power to block traffic do
                                    so only for legitimate reasons. 
                                    Blocking traffic for individuals who
                                    utilize their data protection rights
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                              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-12-07
                                17:20, Rubens Kuhl wrote:<br class="">
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                                Consent is likely an avenue for those
                                registrants that want to be RDS-listed
                                in order to gain trust among Internet
                                users.  Hypothetical scenario: default
                                is not being publicly-listed, and then
                                people start blocking domains massively.
                                In such a scenario, registrants that
                                want more reach and trust from
                                end-users, might want to consent to
                                being publicly-listed. As long as lack
                                of consent doesn't prevent service from
                                contracted parties, it might be useful
                                and I think we should consider this
                                angle when time comes in the PDP. 
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                                      <div class="">On 7 Dec 2017, at
                                        20:05, Chuck <<a href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">consult@cgomes.com</a>>
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                                            fact that the requirements
                                            for consent are demanding
                                            does not mean that we should
                                            not consider it in our
                                            deliberations on access when
                                            we get there in our work.  I
                                            doubt that a consent process
                                            will suffice by itself in
                                            solving access issues but it
                                            is certainly one avenue that
                                            the letter pointed out as a
                                            possible avenue.  I think we
                                            will need to explore that
                                            further when we deliberate
                                            on access.  For now, let’s
                                            focus on purposes and in
                                            particular Domain Name
                                            Management as a purpose.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                            [<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ayden
                                            Férdeline<br class="">
                                            <b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday,
                                            December 7, 2017 12:42 PM<br class="">
                                            <b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>John
                                            Bambenek <<a href="mailto:jcb@bambenekconsulting.com" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">jcb@bambenekconsulting.com</a>><br class="">
                                            <b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br class="">
                                            <b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Article 29
                                            Working Party to ICANN<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                              not necessarily. The
                                              criteria for obtaining
                                              valid, freely-given
                                              consent is demanding, and
                                              one cannot be asked to
                                              consent to processing that
                                              is otherwise unlawful. We
                                              were told in the first
                                              legal memo from WSGR that
                                              consent is not a silver
                                              bullet here.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                Article 29 Working Party
                                                to ICANN<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                December 2017 8:18 PM<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" style="color: purple;
                                                  text-decoration:
                                                  underline;" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                interpretation is wrong.
                                                The latter clearly says
                                                that consent in the
                                                current system is not
                                                clearly given. If a
                                                domain holder had the
                                                free and informed option
                                                to publish information
                                                in whois or not THIS
                                                ISSUE IS SOLVED. <o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                  Dec 7, 2017, at 17:59,
                                                  Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" style="color: purple;
                                                    text-decoration:
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                                                <div class="">Hi
                                                  Michele,<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                <div class="">I read
                                                  this a final and very
                                                  clear warning from the
                                                  European DPAs to ICANN
                                                  and its contracted
                                                  parties to stop
                                                  messing about and
                                                  start getting ready in
                                                  time for May 25. The
                                                  references to previous
                                                  notices make it very
                                                  clear that there will
                                                  be no  consideration
                                                  given after that date.
                                                  While the letter
                                                  contains nothing new
                                                  to anyone who has paid
                                                  any attention, it is
                                                  very clear in its
                                                  message: Public Whois
                                                  is illegal in its
                                                  current shape and
                                                  form, and there is no
                                                  way to make it legal
                                                  without making it
                                                  non-public.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                <div class="">Best,<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
                                                <div class="">Volker<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                    06.12.2017 um 21:49
                                                    schrieb Michele
                                                    Neylon - Blacknight:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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                                                  <pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class="">All<o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
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                                                  <pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class="">I'd highly recommend that you take the time to read the latest letter from the Article 29 Working Party to ICANN:<o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
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                                                  <pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class=""><a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/falque-pierrotin-to-chalaby-marby-06Dec17-en.pdf" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/falque-pierrotin-to-chalaby-marby-06Dec17-en.pdf</a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
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                                                  <pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class="">For clarity the Article 29 WP represents the views of the DPAs of the EU member states. In many instances DPAs will address their concerns via this group rather than individually.<o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
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                                                  <pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class="">Regards<o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
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                                                  <pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class="">Michele<o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
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