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<p>All their verification occurs post-registration and it usually
fails to detect stolen address details. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 11.12.2017 um 19:10 schrieb Richard
Leaning:<br>
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Dear All,
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<div class="">BUT - .UK and .EU for example have a very very tough
verification process for new registrants to go through before
they will give you a domain. I know that doesn’t stop all abuse
on .UK and .EU but its stops a lot, therefore .UK and .EU is
trusted and people will use them and feel safe doing so, and
their whois is not as used by investigators as much as others.
So if everyone followed there lead - which is what some ICANN
WGs are suggesting then the whole domain name space may be a
better place and not such reliance on whois to fight abuse. </div>
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<div class="">Richard Leaning</div>
<div class="">External Relations</div>
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<div class="">On 11 Dec 2017, at 18:54, Volker Greimann <<a
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>
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<p class="">Or look at .uk. strongly redacted data sets
for individuals as registrant with the option to blank
fully. But the registry will work with law
enforceement in case of abuse. And guess what? That
works too...</p>
<p class="">Volker<br class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 11.12.2017 um 18:51
schrieb Michele Neylon - Blacknight:<br class="">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Allison<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""
lang="EN-GB"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Most of the European ccTLDs publish
minimal whois to the public but many offer
mechanisms for granting access to more data.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Obvious example would be .fr, but
it’d be the same for many others.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""
lang="EN-GB"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""
lang="EN-GB">In the case of .tk and other free
domains, as you probably know the registry
back-end operator has given some 3<sup class="">rd</sup>
parties direct access to suspend domains
involved in abuse.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""
lang="EN-GB"><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Regards<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""
lang="EN-GB"><br class="">
Michele<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">--<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Mr Michele Neylon<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Blacknight Solutions<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Hosting, Colocation & Domains<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.blacknight.com/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.blacknight.com/</a><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-GB"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://blacknight.blog/"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://blacknight.blog/</a><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Personal blog: <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://michele.blog/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://michele.blog/</a><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Some thoughts: <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://ceo.hosting/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://ceo.hosting/</a>
<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Blacknight Internet Solutions
Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93
X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" class=""
lang="EN-GB"><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">From: </span></b><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">allison
nixon <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:elsakoo@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><elsakoo@gmail.com></a><br
class="">
<b class="">Date: </b>Monday 11 December 2017
at 17:49<br class="">
<b class="">To: </b>Michele Neylon <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><michele@blacknight.com></a><br
class="">
<b class="">Cc: </b>"Chen, Tim" <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:tim@domaintools.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><tim@domaintools.com></a>,
gnso-rds-pdp-wg <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject: </b>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Article 29 Working Party to
ICANN<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailOriginalBody"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="">Can you tell
me some of the ccTLDs? Any of those that
feature commonly in abusive domains? Does .TK,
.GQ, .ML, .GA, .CF have anything?<o:p class=""></o:p></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 12:41 PM,
Michele Neylon - Blacknight <</span><a
href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">michele@blacknight.com</span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span class="" lang="EN-GB">Allison</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span class="" lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span class="" lang="EN-GB">Plenty
of ccTLDs offer gated access to
their whois and have done so for
years.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span class="" lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span class="" lang="EN-GB">Regards</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
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class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span class="" lang="EN-GB">Michele</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span class="" lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span class="" lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">--</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Mr Michele Neylon</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Blacknight Solutions</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Hosting, Colocation
& Domains</span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span><a
href="https://www.blacknight.com/"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span class=""
lang="EN-GB">https://www.blacknight.com/</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span><a
href="http://blacknight.blog/"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span class=""
lang="EN-GB">http://blacknight.blog/</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Intl. </span></span><a
href="tel:+353%2059%20918%203072"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span class=""
lang="EN-GB">+353 (0) 59
9183072</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Direct Dial: </span></span><a
href="tel:+353%2059%20918%203090"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span class=""
lang="EN-GB">+353 (0)59 9183090</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Personal blog: </span></span><a
href="https://michele.blog/"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span class=""
lang="EN-GB">https://michele.blog/</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Some thoughts: </span></span><a
href="https://ceo.hosting/"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span class=""
lang="EN-GB">https://ceo.hosting/</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">-------------------------------</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Blacknight Internet
Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside
Business Park,Sleaty</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span style="" class=""
lang="EN-GB">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93
X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><b class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;"
class="">From: </span></b></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span style="font-size:
12pt;" class="">allison nixon <</span></span><a
href="mailto:elsakoo@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"
class="">elsakoo@gmail.com</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span style="font-size:
12pt;" class="">><br class="">
<b class="">Date: </b>Monday 11
December 2017 at 17:37<br class="">
<b class="">To: </b>"Chen, Tim"
<</span></span><a
href="mailto:tim@domaintools.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"
class="">tim@domaintools.com</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span style="font-size:
12pt;" class="">><br class="">
<b class="">Cc: </b>Michele
Neylon <</span></span><a
href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"
class="">michele@blacknight.com</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span style="font-size:
12pt;" class="">>,
gnso-rds-pdp-wg <</span></span><a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"
class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span style="font-size:
12pt;" class="">></span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><br class="">
<b class="">Subject: </b>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Article 29
Working Party to ICANN<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><a
name="m_4163202769532778824__MailOriginalBody"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="">this is the first
time ive heard of this
existing. how does one get
access? </a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class="">if the private sector
cannot get access, then it is
already a failure.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class="">On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at
11:17 AM, Chen, Tim <</span><a
href="mailto:tim@domaintools.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">tim@domaintools.com</span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">> wrote:<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class="">and just because it's
being done doesn't mean
it's being done
effectively. <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class="">do we have any data from
the users of these
currently-existing gated
systems to get their
opinion as to whether it
works for them?<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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</div>
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<div class="">
<div class="">
<p class="MsoNormal"
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class="">On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at
8:09 AM, Michele
Neylon - Blacknight
<</span><a
href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">michele@blacknight.com</span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">> wrote:<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
class=""
lang="EN-GB">Dick</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
class=""
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
class=""
lang="EN-GB">We
have been
thinking about
what it means
in reality, as
we are the
ones who will
have to
implement it.
</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
class=""
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
class=""
lang="EN-GB">For
now, I can see
a situation
where a
registrar will
end up running
RDAP with
ACLs. And
there’ll be
layers of
access with
logging etc.,</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
class=""
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
class=""
lang="EN-GB">It’s
already being
done by a lot
of ccTLDs and
by two gTLDs.</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
class=""
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
class=""
lang="EN-GB">Just
because it’s
not “simple”
doesn’t mean
it can’t be
done.</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
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style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
class=""
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
class=""
lang="EN-GB">Regards</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
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style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
class=""
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
class=""
lang="EN-GB">Michele</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
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style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
class=""
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<div class="">
<p
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
style=""
class=""
lang="EN-GB">--</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
style=""
class=""
lang="EN-GB">Mr
Michele Neylon</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
style=""
class=""
lang="EN-GB">Blacknight
Solutions</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
style=""
class=""
lang="EN-GB">Hosting,
Colocation
& Domains</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""></span><a
href="https://www.blacknight.com/" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span class=""
lang="EN-GB">https://www.blacknight.com/</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""></span><a
href="http://blacknight.blog/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span class=""
lang="EN-GB">http://blacknight.blog/</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
style=""
class=""
lang="EN-GB">Intl.
</span></span><a
href="tel:+353%2059%20918%203072" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span class=""
lang="EN-GB">+353
(0) 59
9183072</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
style=""
class=""
lang="EN-GB">Direct
Dial: </span></span><a
href="tel:+353%2059%20918%203090" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span class=""
lang="EN-GB">+353
(0)59 9183090</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
style=""
class=""
lang="EN-GB">Personal
blog: </span></span><a
href="https://michele.blog/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span class=""
lang="EN-GB">https://michele.blog/</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
style=""
class=""
lang="EN-GB">Some
thoughts: </span></span><a
href="https://ceo.hosting/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span class=""
lang="EN-GB">https://ceo.hosting/</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
style=""
class=""> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
style=""
class=""
lang="EN-GB">-------------------------------</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
style=""
class=""
lang="EN-GB">Blacknight
Internet
Solutions Ltd,
Unit
12A,Barrowside
Business
Park,Sleaty</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
style=""
class=""
lang="EN-GB">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93
X265,Ireland
Company No.:
370845</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<p
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style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><b
class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">From: </span></b></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg <</span></span><a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">> on behalf of Richard Leaning <</span></span><a
href="mailto:rleaning@ripe.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"
class="">rleaning@ripe.net</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">><br class="">
<b class="">Date:
</b>Monday 11
December 2017
at 15:00<br
class="">
<b class="">To:
</b>Chuck <</span></span><a
href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"
class="">consult@cgomes.com</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">><br class="">
<b class="">Cc:
</b>gnso-rds-pdp-wg
<</span></span><a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"
class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:
</b>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg]
Article 29
Working Party
to ICANN</span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
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style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><a
name="m_4163202769532778824_m_-753185950421905"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="">Dear All, </a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
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style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">Wasn’t
sure to add to
this thread a
start a new
one.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p
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class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
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style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">Accreditation
and tiered
access is
something am
hearing
regularly now
when
discussing a
‘new’ whois.
Its was spoken
about in
corridors and
bars at the
last ICANN
meeting and
when am
walking around
Brussels from
meeting to
meeting,
conference to
conference its
always popping
up as the
thing thats
going to save
us all.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
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style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class="">
<p
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style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">But
has anyone
stopped to
think about
this, what do
these small
words mean in
reality. So
who is going
to decided who
should be
accredited,
ICANN? ITU?
Interpol?
Europol? some
brand new
organisations?
this debate
alone will
take another 5
years on top
of the years
we are going
to spend on
this WG. <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p
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class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"
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style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">Just
wanted to
point out that
everyone
throws this
around without
actually
considering
what it means
in the real
world.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p
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style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<p
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">Cheers<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p
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style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">Dick<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"
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style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">Richard
Leaning<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">External
Relations<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">RIPE
NCC<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
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style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"
class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">On 8
Dec 2017, at
21:45, Chuck
<</span><a
href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class="">consult@cgomes.com</span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">>
wrote:<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">Caution
to all. This
thread is
getting too
personal and
that is not
constructive.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
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class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
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class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<p
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">Chuck<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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class=""> <o:p
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<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><b
class="">From:</b><span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span>gnso-rds-pdp-wg
[</span><a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">]<span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span><b
class="">On
Behalf Of<span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><a
href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class="">benny@nordreg.se</span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><br
class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday,
December 8,
2017 9:27 AM<br
class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span>allison
nixon <</span><a
href="mailto:elsakoo@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class="">elsakoo@gmail.com</span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">><br
class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b><span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span>RDS
PDP WG <</span><a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">><br
class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Article 29 Working Party to ICANN<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">About
behavior in
the discussion
in general<span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">Who
bullies
who... <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">I did
not mention
any particular
and it was a
comment on a
view of the
above.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">Your
assumptions
are way of
track and
insulting in
so many ways.
And kind of
show my point,
a comment
misused by
quoting it out
of context
making it a
fact with out
context.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">Sent
from my iPhone<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><br
class="">
On 8 Dec 2017,
at 18:16,
allison nixon
<</span><a
href="mailto:elsakoo@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="color:purple"
class="">elsakoo@gmail.com</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">>
wrote:<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"
class="">
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<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">Please
clarify:
"Sure… your
pals are
always
innocent
right?"<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">On
Dec 8, 2017
12:03 PM, "</span><a
href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="color:purple"
class="">benny@nordreg.se</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">"
<</span><a
href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="color:purple"
class="">benny@nordreg.se</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">>
wrote:<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">Criminals
were did that
come from???<span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
<div
id="m_4163202769532778824m_-7531859504219058334m_2746340775783426683m_-5306382646128905935AppleMailSignature"
class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">Sent
from my iPhone<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><br
class="">
On 8 Dec 2017,
at 17:22,
allison nixon
<</span><a
href="mailto:elsakoo@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="color:purple"
class="">elsakoo@gmail.com</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">>
wrote:<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"
class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">>>
Sure… your
pals are
always
innocent
right?<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">>>
Lets just
agree that we
have different
viewpoints on
this.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">I'm
assuming
you're
referencing
the earlier
defamation
against
spamhaus that
occurred on
this list,
apparently
without the
leadership of
this list
flagging it as
inappropriate?
Or are you
accusing
someone else
of being a
criminal?
Please do be
more specific.
It's better
when the
defamation is
explicit
rather than
inferred.<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
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class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""> <o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">On
Fri, Dec 8,
2017 at 1:48
AM,<span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="color:purple"
class="">benny@nordreg.se</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span><</span><a
href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="color:purple"
class="">benny@nordreg.se</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">>
wrote:<o:p
class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">Sure…
your pals are
always
innocent
right?<br
class="">
<br class="">
Lets just
agree that we
have different
viewpoints on
this.<br
class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683m-5306382646128905935im">--</span><br
class="">
<span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683m-5306382646128905935im">Med
vänliga
hälsningar /
Kind Regards /
Med vennlig
hilsen</span><br
class="">
<br class="">
<span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683m-5306382646128905935im">Benny
Samuelsen</span><br
class="">
<span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683m-5306382646128905935im">Registry
Manager -
Domainexpert</span><br
class="">
<br class="">
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class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683m-5306382646128905935im">Nordreg
AB - ICANN
accredited
registrar</span><br
class="">
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class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683m-5306382646128905935im">IANA-ID:
638</span><br
class="">
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class=""><span
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class="">+47.40410200</span></span><span
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<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">>
On 8 Dec 2017,
at 07:28, John
Bambenek <</span><a
href="mailto:jcb@bambenekconsulting.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="color:purple"
class="">jcb@bambenekconsulting.com</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">>
wrote:<br
class="">
><br
class="">
> Remind me
again, which
side of this
fight has been
disparaging
and defaming
the other
side? Please.
Its your pals
that have been
engaging in a
pattern of
sexism, not
mine.<br
class="">
><br
class="">
> --<br
class="">
> John
Bambenek<br
class="">
><br
class="">
>> On
Dec 8, 2017,
at 14:11, "</span><a
href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="color:purple"
class="">benny@nordreg.se</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">"
<</span><a
href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="color:purple"
class="">benny@nordreg.se</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">>
wrote:<br
class="">
>><br
class="">
>> No
it’s not about
you, it’s
about the way
people form
the group you
apparently
represent have
been acting in
discussions.<br
class="">
>> And
that have imo
been
manipulating
for making no
progress.<br
class="">
>><br
class="">
>> Well
free privacy
whois isn't a
solution as
long as the
anti abuse
people states
that it will
create
problems for
the user.<br
class="">
>><br
class="">
>><br
class="">
>><br
class="">
>> --<br
class="">
>> Med
vänliga
hälsningar /
Kind Regards /
Med vennlig
hilsen<br
class="">
>><br
class="">
>> Benny
Samuelsen<br
class="">
>>
Registry
Manager -
Domainexpert<br
class="">
>><br
class="">
>>
Nordreg AB -
ICANN
accredited
registrar<br
class="">
>>
IANA-ID: 638<br
class="">
>>
Phone:<span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
href="tel:%2B46.42197000" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="color:purple"
class="">+46.42197000</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><br
class="">
>>
Direct:<span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
href="tel:%2B47.32260201" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
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class="">+47.32260201</span></span><span
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Mobile:<span
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class="">+47.40410200</span></span><span
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class=""><br
class="">
>><br
class="">
>>>
On 8 Dec 2017,
at 07:00, John
Bambenek <</span><a
href="mailto:jcb@bambenekconsulting.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="color:purple"
class="">jcb@bambenekconsulting.com</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">>
wrote:<br
class="">
>>><br
class="">
>>>
You seem to
think this is
about me and
not the dozens
of security
and anti-abuse
professionals
who have left
this list... I
am not sure
why you think
that.<br
class="">
>>><br
class="">
>>>
You also seem
to think by
saying I
haven't come
up with a
better
solution
(whois privacy
for free) or
that I support
that status
quo (I do
not), that it
makes it true.<br
class="">
>>><br
class="">
>>>
But it's also
when we talk
about exactly
those things
Chuck chimes
in to say we
aren't there
yet, which is
why I've
refrained.<br
class="">
>>><br
class="">
>>> I
will be
contributing
once we are
talking about
those issues
as I have been
contributing
in ways
outside your
visibility up
to this point.<br
class="">
>>><br
class="">
>>>
But that
doesn't
mitigate or
change the
conduct of
members of
this list who
have engaged
in a pattern
of bullying,
manipulation,
and sexism to
try to make
their point.
It has not
gone
unnoticed.<br
class="">
>>><br
class="">
>>> j<br
class="">
>>>> On 12/07/2017 11:42 PM,<span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="color:purple"
class="">benny@nordreg.se</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br
class="">
>>>> Sorry to point it out but imo you have bullied yourself
of the buss
with not
wanting to
contribute to
a new solution
where you can
exist but in
same time we
can make a
better
solution
overall which
not equal
Status Quo.<br
class="">
>>>><br class="">
>>>> Sent from my iPhone<br class="">
>>>><br class="">
>>>>> On 7 Dec 2017, at 22:17, John Bambenek via
gnso-rds-pdp-wg
<</span><a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="color:purple"
class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">>
wrote:<br
class="">
>>>>><br class="">
>>>>> The question has never been asked directly. So you
want to get me
on the bus,
ask the
question, as I
have phrased
it
directly.<br
class="">
>>>>><br class="">
>>>>> But considering almost all the anti-abuse and
security types
have more or
less been
bullied off
the bus, does
it really
matter
anymore?<br
class="">
>>>>><br class="">
>>>>> j<br class="">
>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>> On 12/07/2017 03:01 PM, theo geurts wrote:<br
class="">
>>>>>> And as confirmed by Hamilton.<br class="">
>>>>>> And as confirmed by the Dutch DPA.<br class="">
>>>>>> And as confirmed by WP29.<br class="">
>>>>>> John, why do we keep having this conversation?<br
class="">
>>>>>> What do we need to do here to get you on the
bus, so we do
not get under
the bus?<br
class="">
>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>> Thanks,<br class="">
>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>> Theo<br class="">
>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>> On 7-12-2017 21:41, Ayden Férdeline wrote:<br
class="">
>>>>>>> No, not necessarily. The criteria for
obtaining
valid,
freely-given
consent is
demanding, and
one cannot be
asked to
consent to
processing
that is
otherwise
unlawful. We
were told in
the first
legal memo
from WSGR that
consent is not
a silver
bullet here.<br
class="">
>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>> — Ayden<br class="">
>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------<br
class="">
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Article
29 Working
Party to ICANN<br
class="">
>>>>>>>> Local Time: 7 December 2017 8:18 PM<br
class="">
>>>>>>>> UTC Time: 7 December 2017 20:18<br
class="">
>>>>>>>> From:<span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="color:purple"
class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><br
class="">
>>>>>>>> To: Volker Greimann <</span><a
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><span
style="color:purple" class="">vgreimann@key-systems.net</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">><br
class="">
>>>>>>>><span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="color:purple"
class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><br
class="">
>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>> This interpretation is wrong. The
latter clearly
says that
consent in the
current system
is not clearly
given. If a
domain holder
had the free
and informed
option to
publish
information in
whois or not
THIS ISSUE IS
SOLVED.<br
class="">
>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>> --<br class="">
>>>>>>>> John Bambenek<br class="">
>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 7, 2017, at 17:59, Volker
Greimann <</span><a
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
style="color:purple"
class="">vgreimann@key-systems.net</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class="">>
wrote:<br
class="">
>>>>>>>>> Hi Michele,<br class="">
>>>>>>>>> I read this a final and very clear
warning from
the European
DPAs to ICANN
and its
contracted
parties to
stop messing
about and
start getting
ready in time
for May 25.
The references
to previous
notices make
it very clear
that there
will be no
consideration
given after
that date.
While the
letter
contains
nothing new to
anyone who has
paid any
attention, it
is very clear
in its
message:
Public Whois
is illegal in
its current
shape and
form, and
there is no
way to make it
legal without
making it
non-public.<br
class="">
>>>>>>>>> Best,<br class="">
>>>>>>>>> Volker<br class="">
>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>>> Am 06.12.2017 um 21:49 schrieb
Michele Neylon
- Blacknight:<br
class="">
>>>>>>>>>> All<br class="">
>>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>>> I'd highly recommend that you
take the time
to read the
latest letter
from the
Article 29
Working Party
to ICANN:<br
class="">
>>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>>><span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/falque-pierrotin-to-chalaby-marby-06Dec17-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class=""><span
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class=""><span
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style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"
class=""><br
class="">
>>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>>> (also attached)<br class="">
>>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>>> For clarity the Article 29 WP
represents the
views of the
DPAs of the EU
member states.
In many
instances DPAs
will address
their concerns
via this group
rather than
individually.<br
class="">
>>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>>> Regards<br class="">
>>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>>> Michele<br class="">
>>>>>>>>>> <br class="">
>>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>>> --<br class="">
>>>>>>>>>> Mr Michele Neylon<br class="">
>>>>>>>>>> Blacknight Solutions<br
class="">
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>>>>>>>>>><span
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>>>>>>>>>><span
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>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>> --<br class="">
>>>>>>>>> Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir
Ihnen gerne
zur Verfügung.<br
class="">
>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen,<br
class="">
>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>> Volker A. Greimann<br class="">
>>>>>>>>> - Rechtsabteilung -<br class="">
>>>>>>>>><br class="">
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>>>>>>>>> Email:<br class="">
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>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>><br class="">
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class="">
>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>> Should you have any further
questions,
please do not
hesitate to
contact us.<br
class="">
>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,<br class="">
>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>> Volker A. Greimann<br class="">
>>>>>>>>> - legal department -<br class="">
>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>> Key-Systems GmbH<br class="">
>>>>>>>>><span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
href="https://maps.google.com/?q=Im+Oberen+Werk+1+%0D+%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E+66386+St.+Ingbert&entry=gmail&source=g"
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>>>>>>>>><span
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href="https://maps.google.com/?q=Im+Oberen+Werk+1+%0D+%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E%3E+66386+St.+Ingbert&entry=gmail&source=g"
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>>>>>>>>> Tel.:<span
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href="tel:%2B49%20%280%29%206894%20-%209396%20901" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""><span
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class="">+49
(0) 6894 -
9396 901</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class=""></span></a><span
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class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
href="tel:%2B49%20%280%29%206894%20-%209396%20851" target="_blank"
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class=""><span
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class="">+49
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9396 851</span></span><span
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class=""><br
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>>>>>>>>><span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank"
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class=""><span
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>>>>>>>>><br class="">
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>>>>>>>>> Web:<br class="">
>>>>>>>>><span
class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
href="http://www.key-systems.net/" target="_blank"
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class=""><span
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class="">www.key-systems.net</span></span><span
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moz-do-not-send="true"
class=""><span
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style="color:purple"
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>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>> Follow us on Twitter or join our
fan community
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>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>> CEO: Alexander Siffrin<br class="">
>>>>>>>>> Registration No.: HR B 18835 -
Saarbruecken<br
class="">
>>>>>>>>> V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534<br class="">
>>>>>>>>><br class="">
>>>>>>>>> Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP<br
class="">
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>>>>>>>>> This e-mail and its attachments is
intended only
for the person
to whom it is
addressed.
Furthermore it
is not
permitted to
publish any
content of
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use, disclose,
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>>>>>>>>>
_______________________________________________<br
class="">
>>>>>>>>> gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list<br
class="">
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class="m4163202769532778824m-7531859504219058334m2746340775783426683apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a
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>>>>>>>
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class="">
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>>>>> _______________________________________________<br
class="">
>>>>> gnso-rds-pdp-wg mailing list<br class="">
>>>>><span
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Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
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Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
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CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
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Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Volker A. Greimann
- Rechtsabteilung -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.BrandShelter.com">www.BrandShelter.com</a>
Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.facebook.com/KeySystems">www.facebook.com/KeySystems</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu">www.keydrive.lu</a>
Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
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Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best regards,
Volker A. Greimann
- legal department -
Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>
Web: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.RRPproxy.net">www.RRPproxy.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.domaindiscount24.com">www.domaindiscount24.com</a> / <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.BrandShelter.com">www.BrandShelter.com</a>
Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated:
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.twitter.com/key_systems">www.twitter.com/key_systems</a>
CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.keydrive.lu">www.keydrive.lu</a>
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