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<p class="MsoNormal">For your convenience, SSAC51 can be found here: <a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/sac-051-en.pdf">
https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/sac-051-en.pdf</a>. As a reminder, for other key inputs, please see
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/R4xlAw">https://community.icann.org/x/R4xlAw</a>.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Holly Raiche <h.raiche@internode.on.net><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 01:45<br>
<b>To: </b>Paul Keating <paul@law.es><br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] We should not build atop whois (was Re: Domain Name Certification )<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please read (if you haven’t already) SSAC 51 on the use of the ‘Whois' term and why all that time ago, the SSAC recommended more precise wording when talking about registration data (services, the actual data and the protocol) so that people
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 10 Jan 2018, at 11:20 am, Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 10 Jan 2018, at 01:09, Holly Raiche <<a href="mailto:h.raiche@internode.on.net">h.raiche@internode.on.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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So maybe we can now focus - please - on using the SSAC’s preferred language and on referring to RDDS or RDAP - and the issues raised by the RDAP protocols.<span style="font-family:"PMingLiU",serif"><br>
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</span>On 10 Jan 2018, at 10:59 am, Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To what extent should we stop using references to Whois, and start talking specifically about the RADP protocols that have been designed for the 21st century internet, and to what extent if any do they address the problems with registration
data bases that you have identified - <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Well, I think that the SSAC answered this some time ago, by inventing<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">what this WG is supposed to be talking about. But we won't be helped<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">in that effort if we keep mentally substituting "whois" for either<o:p></o:p></p>
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