<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:#444444">+1 (Bradley)</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font color="#073763" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">John Horton<br>President and CEO, LegitScript</font><div><img src="https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B13GfLt8zwZJRXE5UTAtclVxdTg&revid=0B13GfLt8zwZJSG9zOUVwN1lFKzFrRVlnaWU0NGZ4RmdkUjg4PQ" width="96" height="36"><br><div><p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica"><br></p><p style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:Helvetica"><b><font color="#444444">Follow</font><font color="#0b5394"> </font><font color="#000000">Legit</font><font color="#0b5394">Script</font></b>: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/company/legitscript-com" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank"><font color="#cc0000">LinkedIn</font></a> | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/LegitScript" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank"><font color="#6aa84f">Facebook</font></a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/legitscript" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank"><font color="#674ea7">Twitter</font></a> | <font color="#ff9900"><u><a href="http://blog.legitscript.com/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">Blog</a></u></font> |<font color="#ff9900"> <a href="http://go.legitscript.com/Subscription-Management.html" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank"><font color="#ff9900">Newsletter</font></a></font><br></p><p style="margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:Helvetica"><font color="#ff9900"><br></font></p><p style="text-align:left;margin:0px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:Helvetica"><font color="#ff9900"><img src="https://www.legitscript.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/LegitScript-Workplace.png" width="46" height="96"><img src="https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B13GfLt8zwZJTmNWbmcwOTVJMXc&revid=0B13GfLt8zwZJQlZWOXVGbG9acC9nRGhzdEkxclFJVytCWVNjPQ" width="47" height="96"><br></font></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Silver, Bradley via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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need to be mindful of some basic rules, including the GDPR. I have not read any comments to suggest that we should ignore the GDPR, but rather that the positive obligations under the GDPR should not be made mandatory for the rest of the world. Those that
need to comply with the GDPR, should. And those that do not, can choose what level of protection to apply. I am concerned that the vision Volker outlines is a maximalist approach which would turn ICANN into a quasi-data protection regulator. Some flexibility
needs to remain for differing levels of data protection standards to be applied in accordance with national laws.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Volker Greimann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 12, 2018 5:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Palage</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Legal basis vs. lawful<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Michael is right. ICANN iOS based on the thought of “One World; one Internet”. This also means that the policies it creates should be universally applicable to all registrations, if possible. IF we start creating policy that diverges, that
would only lead to further fragmentation and undermine the founding ideal of ICANN itself. Our aim should be to create one policy that can be applied to all or most registrations and that can be implemented by all registrars alike. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">While we will likely have a certain amount of fragmentation following May 25 as each contracted party applies its own solution, it should be our goal to overcome this and present a new unified policy that works for all contracted parties. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12. Feb 2018, at 20:27, Michael Palage <<a href="mailto:michael@palage.com" target="_blank">michael@palage.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I will respectfully push back on your legal over simplification of the GDPR.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The exterritorial aspect of the GDPR set forth in Article 3 is NOT just limited to EU residents/citizens. As Michele has noted in the past, the GDPR requires BlackKnight
as an Irish legal entity to protect all of its customers data (EU/Non-EU) in compliance with GDPR, as well as US entities that target and conduct business within the EU.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Now your points about the distinction between natural and legal persons is a fair one and one that has been noted in EU and Art 29 communications. Could you please share
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">As I have note previously the long term viability of the ICANN multi-stakeholder model is at risk as national governments continue to pass national laws that impact the operation
of the Internet. However, the European Union is NOT alone in advancing Privacy Legislation, in fact data localization is perhaps the next biggest lurking threat to the domain name system. <span class="m_-4999732173759877502apple-converted-space"> </span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span class="m_-4999732173759877502apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">gnso-rds-pdp-wg
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<b>To:</b><span class="m_-4999732173759877502apple-converted-space"> </span>Greg Aaron <<a href="mailto:gca@icginc.com" target="_blank">gca@icginc.com</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="m_-4999732173759877502apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Legal basis vs. lawful<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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what you are _not allowed to do_. It’s like saying what’s outside the box. The U.S. doesn’t have something like GDPR that spells out legal bases for collecting data, i.e. the enumerated allowable reasons. Instead the trade and consumer protection laws
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="m_-4999732173759877502apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Legal basis vs. lawful<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It is true that the GDPR is prescriptive, although also rather open-ended (hence our current pickle). But regardless of the term we use, don’t we arrive at
the same place: which is that if something that requires a legal basis is done without one, it will be unlawful? Using Kathy’s example, if data is processed without complying with minimization or purpose principles, will such processing not run afoul of
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">There are important distinctions between the meaning of “legal basis” which implies that a law requires something to be affirmatively present, versus “lawful”,
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="m_-4999732173759877502apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Legal basis vs. lawful</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">I do not see how. Kathy's analysis seems sound. The flexibility within the GDPR still only allows processing in very specific cicumstances, all of which are listed in the
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Am 09.02.2018 um 16:45 schrieb Victoria Sheckler:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Kathy’s analysis breaks down on a practical level when one looks at the GDPR and what it says about when data can be processed. The GDPR allows for flexibility for what
can be processed and when, and kathy’s analysis overlooks that point.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Tx for the invitation to join, Chuck, and following up on the discussion of Sam and Tapani, let me add that criteria for processing must be clearer than something broadly
within ICANN's mission statement and something permissible somewhere. The requirements under law are express and concrete.<span class="m_-4999732173759877502apple-converted-space"> </span><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Specifically, GDPR Article 5(1)(b and c) states:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Personal data shall be:<span class="m_-4999732173759877502apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
2. "collected for<span class="m_-4999732173759877502apple-converted-space"> </span><u>specified, explicit and legitimate purposes<span class="m_-4999732173759877502apple-converted-space"> </span></u>and not further processed in a manner that is incompatible with those purposes"</span></b><span class="m_-4999732173759877502apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">(the
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3. "adequate, relevant and limited to what is necessary in relation to the purposes for which they are processed"</b><span class="m_-4999732173759877502apple-converted-space"> </span>(the "data minimisation" requirement). [underline added]<b><br>
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Thus, our first criteria of "consistent with ICANN's mission," is only the first step and we need to go further than even the 3 criteria we are discussing..<br>
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Second, lawful and legal enter us into a debate over words and I have to agree with Sam and Tapani's analysis and let me add some of my own.<span class="m_-4999732173759877502apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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"Legal" is the term we use for actions expressly allowed under law. How we process personal data under the GDRP falls into this category -- of processing expressly allowed under law. Whereas the term lawful is used for a much broader category of actions which
are generally permissible and allowable.<br>
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The term "legal" is much more consistent with our criteria statement because the processing of personal data by ICANN must clearly have a<span class="m_-4999732173759877502apple-converted-space"> </span><i>valid legal basis</i><span class="m_-4999732173759877502apple-converted-space"> </span>as expressly
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On 2/7/2018 10:53 AM, Sam Lanfranco wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I will extract from your longer message.<span class="m_-4999732173759877502apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
I deliberately kept my brief and less technical.<br>
I think we are in agreement here and I support your position.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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The key distinction, as I understand it, is that "lawful" would be<br>
defined by the negative, everything that some law does not prohibit,<span class="m_-4999732173759877502apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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So I would prefer "legal basis" specifically in this sense: that any processing<br>
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