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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">With great respect,
          the US has systematically been attempting to get WHOIS data
          output into recent trade agreements, including for ccTLDs, for
          a number of years.  so we are already there....</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie Perrin</font></font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-02-15 08:58, Dotzero wrote:<br>
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        <div>To simply assert that the extraterritorial nature of GDPR
          is the end all and be all falls into the realm of the absurd.
          If another jurisdiction passes legislation mandating
          publication of identifying (personal) information in whois,
          what then? What happens if you are "Trumped" by U.S.
          legislation? Do you really want to see a trade war or worse?
          We are dealing with a complex and difficult situation that is
          the equivalent of wrestling a jello snake in a vat of oil. We
          are best served by seeking outcomes that accommodate GDPR as
          best as possible and recognize that other jurisdictions do not
          necessarily follow the same principles as GDPR. I say this
          even though I agree with many of the principles embodied in
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        <div>Michael Hammer<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Ayden
          Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a
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            <div>I do not support this as a path forward.<br>
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            <div>We have seen repeatedly that the legal advice we have
              been issued has been ignored by those who are unhappy with
              the message contained within it.<br>
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            <div>And I disagree with the assertion that there is a
              "clear lack of consensus" on the question of the
              extraterritorial nature of the GDPR.<br>
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            <div>To continue dwelling on this question will ensure that
              we never make any progress as a working group.<br>
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            <div>— Ayden  <br>
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                <div> On 15 February 2018 12:01 AM, Michael Palage <<a
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Chuck,<br>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">As one of the original authors
                      to the this extraterritorial thread, I welcome all
                      the legal interpretation by both lawyers and
                      non-lawyers in connection the scope to Article 3
                      of the GDPR. I  think it is fair to say there is a
                      clear lack of consensus.  Therefore I would like
                      to propose the following.  Allow the group to
                      comprise a list of legal questions regarding this
                      issue and forward it to ICANN.org and ask of them
                      the following:<br>
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                      <li style="margin-left:0in"
                        class="m_4545599577414158689MsoListParagraph">Provide
                        the list of questions to Hamilton for a response<br>
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                      <li style="margin-left:0in"
                        class="m_4545599577414158689MsoListParagraph">Have
                        ICANN legal provide a response to these same
                        questions<br>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">The reason for Number 2 is that
                      John Jeffrey made very clear in the last webinar
                      that he does NOT agree with all of the Hamilton
                      analysis.  I think us ICANN volunteers toiling
                      away in the PDP coal mine are entitled/deserve an
                      answer to these questions to allow us to move
                      forward with more productive work It does the
                      group no good for a bunch of well-intentioned
                      individuals lacking the requisite legal training
                      to debate these issues.<br>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<br>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Michael<br>
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