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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I think this is an
          excellent suggestion.  May I add to this a suggestion that we
          include the DPAs who so kindly came to Copenhagen last year? 
          They indicated a willingness to engage further, and I see no
          evidence that we have done so.  I am sure the Council of
          Europe would be happy to broker this for us and am copying
          Sophie and Peter to see if we can engage them to help with
          this task.</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I must say I am
          getting very weary of this endless debate, and commend the
          patience of folks like Michael who have been witnessing it for
          a decade longer than I have. I would remind everybody that
          there has been no substantive change in the actual application
          of the EU laws to ICANN, except for the 4% fines.  Now, of
          course, as Bob Dylan famously said, money doesn't talk, it
          screams......</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie Perrin<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-02-14 18:01, Michael Palage
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Chuck,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">As one of the original authors to the this
          extraterritorial thread, I welcome all the legal
          interpretation by both lawyers and non-lawyers in connection
          the scope to Article 3 of the GDPR. I  think it is fair to say
          there is a clear lack of consensus.  Therefore I would like to
          propose the following.  Allow the group to comprise a list of
          legal questions regarding this issue and forward it to
          ICANN.org and ask of them the following:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Provide the
            list of questions to Hamilton for a response<o:p></o:p></li>
          <li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Have ICANN
            legal provide a response to these same questions<o:p></o:p></li>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">The reason for Number 2 is that John
          Jeffrey made very clear in the last webinar that he does NOT
          agree with all of the Hamilton analysis.  I think us ICANN
          volunteers toiling away in the PDP coal mine are
          entitled/deserve an answer to these questions to allow us to
          move forward with more productive work It does the group no
          good for a bunch of well-intentioned individuals lacking the
          requisite legal training to debate these issues.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Michael<o:p></o:p></p>
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