<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">+ 1 Stephanie<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Our time are also running short…...<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 15, 2018, at 21:44, Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" class="">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><p style="font-family: Helvetica-Light; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font size="+1" class=""><font face="Lucida Grande" class="">I agree with Sara wholeheartedly. I would like to propose a workshop at the Barcelona meeting to discuss accreditation requirements for cybersecurity an IP actors who want to retain access to personal data in a tiered access solution. Release of data in such a system will require standards, and I (as mentioned in Abu, on the public panel on GDPR, and in my own comments on the 3 models) I think we should get on with developing those standards, preferably ISO standards with possibility for independent audit.</font></font></p><p style="font-family: Helvetica-Light; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font size="+1" class=""><font face="Lucida Grande" class="">Stephanie Perrin</font></font><br class=""></p><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="font-family: Helvetica-Light; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">On 2018-02-15 11:34, Sara Bockey wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:AB42AE93-0F89-4045-853C-C52424256DC9@godaddy.com" style="font-family: Helvetica-Light; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif; background-color: white;" class="">Our job is now to cooperate in good faith to build a new universal system that still fits most needs but also takes data protection as its core principle.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">EXACTLY! And what’s lacking from most of our conversations are SOLUTIONS. We understand that many of you have come to rely on various types of data from WHOIS. We get it. We’ve heard you. What we have NOT heard is “we understand the changing landscape, and while we are concerned about losing X data, perhaps if we do Y, we can improve RDS and still have access OR if we do Z, we can _________.” <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Given the number of really smart people on this list, I am frustrated by the lack of innovative, forward thinking. Change doesn’t have to be scary. Change can be better - an improvement. We need to stop with the myopia. We need to stop looking backward. We need to stop demonizing. If you are not saying something NEW, something to move this PDP<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">forward</u>, you are part of the problem.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Sara <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 1pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">sara bockey</span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 1pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">sr. policy manager | </span></b><b class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Go</span></b><b class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">Daddy<sup class="">™</sup></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 1pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""><a href="mailto:sbockey@godaddy.com" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">sbockey@godaddy.com</span></a> 480-366-3616</span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt;" class="">skype: sbockey</span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; background-color: white;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></i></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><i class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; background-color: white;" class="">This email message and any attachments hereto is intended for use only by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender and permanently delete the original and any copy of this message and its attachments.</span></i><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">gnso-rds-pdp-wg<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>on behalf of Volker Greimann<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><vgreimann@key-systems.net></a><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 4:30 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Greg Shatan<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><gregshatanipc@gmail.com></a><br class=""><b class="">Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">"gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Equifax hack worse than previously thought: Biz kissed goodbye to card expiry dates, tax IDs etc<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><p class=""><a name="_MailOriginalBody" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">That would be problematic, as you should know, since there is no clear cut line of what would constitute over-enforcement or under-enforcement. Well, the latter will resolve itself due to the incoming DPA actions. <o:p class=""></o:p></a></p><p class=""><span class="">I also never heard of fees to be paid into a fund by those simply trying to remain compliant with their applicable laws.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><span class="">Contracted parties have been stating for years, if not over a decade that publication whois details in the current form and shape is problematic from a data protection perspective. We have repeatedly tried to drive home the point that the current system is not sustainable. We were ignored or ridiculed, or asked to get sued to prove our point. Now that we are forced to take action, everybody is protesting as if this were something new. It is not. Now we have to do a short-term fix, that will hurt more than it would have needed to if everyone had cooperated in good faith to reform whois years ago. The status quo will change.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><span class="">Our job is now to cooperate in good faith to build a new universal system that still fits most needs but also takes data protection as its core principle.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><span class="">Volker out!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Am 15.02.2018 um 05:14 schrieb Greg Shatan:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">In a similar vein, ICANN could establish an “Over-enforce the GDPR Fund,” in which everyone who thinks the GDPR’s data blackout should be extended to the data of non-EU and legal persons would pay in, and it would be used to defray the expenses incurred by those who should have access to information and instead must expend additional time, money and effort, and often incur additional harm, due GDPR over-enforcement.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 5:03 AM Volker Greimann <</span><a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span class="">vgreimann@key-systems.net</span><span class=""></span></a><span class="">> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div class=""><p class=""><span class="">Maybe you are hitting on something here.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><span class="">ICANN could just establish a "Leave-Whois-as-it-is" legal defense fund. Everyone who argues that whois should remain as it is has to pay into that fund and everyone who is fined by data protection violations can take the fines and their legal costs out of that fund. Of course, that would necessitate huge investments to set up the fund from mainly volunteer organizations that do not actually have the means to support it.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><span class="">Best,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class=""><span class="">Volker<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Am 14.02.2018 um 02:21 schrieb Rubens Kuhl:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">On 13 Feb 2018, at 20:32, John Horton <</span><a href="mailto:john.horton@legitscript.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span class="">john.horton@legitscript.com</span><span class=""></span></a><span class="">> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);" class="">Thanks, Rubens -- I don't agree with that interpretation. (I think you mean the Q&A memo Section 2, right?) See memo<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdpr-memorandum-part2-18dec17-en.pdf" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">here</span></span><span class=""></span></a><span class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);" class="">. Let me know if you meant the first or a different one. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">It's exactly that memo. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Since you don't agree, does that mean that your organisation is willing to pay every GDPR fine contracted parties get from following your interpretation ? Because if you are unwilling to do that, then your belief in that interpretation is not rock solid.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">What I can tell you is that this risk has been flagged by that paper, by the eco model and by internal analysis of some registries, all independently of each other; which means you will likely see a good number of contracted parties following exactly the path I outlined in order to mitigate this risk. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">If you see things differently, get Europeans DPAs to put that in writing, and we are all good to go. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Rubens<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; 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