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"Because anonymity sometimes gives people the courage to say things
online that they wouldn’t ordinarily share."<br><br>
It does indeed, and often shows a side of humanity that makes me want
less than proud to be a member of the same race (human).<br><br>
Whether Mr. WHOIS is as base a creature as he makes out, or is idly
boasting, or if this is a rather poor attempt at humor does not really
matter. We know that some people make use of personal information for bad
purposes.<br><br>
The real question is where to draw lines of availability of the personal
data (as defined by EU data commissioners in this case).<br><br>
The Internet is NOT a safe place to be. GDPR and related changes will
change the landscape, but making more information private and making
cyber-protection more difficult. I come down firmly on trying to ensure
that it does not get a LOT worse due to these changes.<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
At 16/02/2018 03:42 AM, Ayden FĂ©rdeline wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Brian Krebs is someone who I
hold in high esteem, so of course I did read his article. And he raised
some points that saw me legitimately pause and reflect.<br><br>
And then I read the comments. Why? Because anonymity sometimes gives
people the courage to say things online that they wouldn’t ordinarily
share.<br><br>
Given the readership of Krebs' website, which I suspect attracts an equal
number of cybercriminals to security researchers, I found the honesty -
that some are using WHOIS for malicious purposes - to be very
refreshing.<br><br>
I never said read only that comment; I said, "the comments are
certainly worth a read," and they are. There are other insightful
comments: a security researcher who says WHOIS data is being abused, a
long-time reader who disagrees with Krebs and says we can "get the
cyber criminals and our privacy at the same time", another who notes
the "incredible [nuance]" of the GDPR which they say
"seems to *actually be aimed at trying to solve the
problem*."<br><br>
So please, do read all of the comments.<br><br>
Ayden<br><br>
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-------- Original Message --------<br>
On 16 February 2018 8:11 AM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com>
wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">If you read all the comments,
and not just the one from the person with the pseudonym “WHOIS” you
will see that the comments run somewhat in favor of keeping Whois
information public. As for Mr. WHOIS, the pseudonym nicely provides
him the privacy to confess to doxxing people and remain unidentifiable.
So the comments are indeed worthwhile, both as an example of the range
and distribution of views on the subject and the use of a form of
“privacy” to hide from detection. (Unless someone is advocating a
“right to doxx”, that would seem to be a Bad Thing.) of course, he
could be fibbing, and never doxxed anyone, but no way to know
that....<br><br>
Finally, I think reading the article is much more worthwhile than reading
the comments, just as I think the views of Brian Krebs are much more
worthwhile than those of Mr.
WHOIS-who-mightormightnot-be-a-doxxer.<br><br>
I suppose everyone is entitled to their sources of information, but
I still ascribe to the caveat “consider the source”.<br><br>
Greg<br><br>
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On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 9:18 PM Ayden FĂ©rdeline
<<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<dd>The comments are certainly worth a read. I have observed one
commenter note that they use WHOIS to dox others. Very troubling, and in
line with
<a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdpr-comments-apc-icann-proposed-compliance-models-29jan18-en.pdf">
this comment</a> submitted by Anriette Esterhuysen of APC to ICANN last
month, where she noted that, "These are not just hypothetical or
trivial risks. An APC staff member whose address was included in the
WHOIS database received a death threat directed at herself and her
family."<br><br>
<dd>— Ayden <<br><br>
<br>
<dd>-------- Original Message --------<br>
<dd>On 16 February 2018 1:07 AM, Dotzero
<<a href="mailto:dotzero@gmail.com">dotzero@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><br>
<dd>
<a href="https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/02/new-eu-privacy-law-may-weaken-security/">
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/02/new-eu-privacy-law-may-weaken-security/</a>
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