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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:16.2pt"><span class="s2">John,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:16.2pt"><span class="s2">We have been very consistent in explaining that actions to combat abuse of our Port43 system are unrelated to GDPR. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:16.2pt"><span class="s2">Not only is our decision to mask customer information in Port43 completely unrelated to GDPR, but it results directly from attacks by third parties who harvest and sell our customers’
personal information. Given the onslaught of spam and robo-calls our customers have been receiving – often within minutes of registering a domain name—we felt that action was required, if not overdue. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:16.2pt"><span class="s2">WHOIS information is still very much available for any & all domain names via our web-based WHOIS tool, and legitimate users have been granted expanded access to Port43. However,
bulk access by anonymous users is no longer supported.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:16.2pt"><span class="s2"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:16.2pt"><span class="s2">I also note that during this entire process, we have kept ICANN informed of both the attacks on our Port43 systems as well as our efforts to mitigate them. Our actions are justified
and to imply otherwise is not only inaccurate but does nothing to move this PDP forward.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:16.2pt"><span class="s2">I am happy to take this offline if further clarification is needed.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">gnso-rds-pdp-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of John Horton
via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>John Horton <<a href="mailto:john.horton@legitscript.com">john.horton@legitscript.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, February 16, 2018 at 11:54 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se">benny@nordreg.se</a>" <<a href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se">benny@nordreg.se</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>RDS PDP WG <<a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Krebs On Security article RE whois and GDRP</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#444444">I think quite a bit in this WG and certainly in the prior privacy/proxy PDP, and absolutely what we're seeing with GoDaddy. To make sure I'm being clear
about what I mean, GoDaddy isn't only redacting Whois information (via Port 43) where it's an EU natural citizen or natural resident. The information is being redacted for....everyone. All registrants. There's simply no justification for that. </span><o:p></o:p></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#444444">I predict you'd see (I'm not speaking for anyone here, just me) a real willingness on the security and compliance community's part to
compromise and support a system where, IF a registrant is an EU natural person (yes, I know we need to define it accurately -- citizen, resident, we can get granular later) then...hey, let's set up a system in involving redaction of some fields, access to
those fields in legitimate cases, etc. I want to support registrars' compliance with the GDPR. But we're seeing the registrar community say: We want to apply this globally. To all domain name registrations. Doesn't matter if the registrant is the intended
beneficiary of the new law, or in scope, or not. We're going to just change global policy.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#444444">I think that viewpoint has been pretty repeatedly represented in this working group, but I'd love to hear from registrars that would
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 10:44 AM,
</span><a href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">benny@nordreg.se</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"> <</span><a href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">benny@nordreg.se</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
wrote:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Please refer to where registrars have been unwilling to explore this option?<br>
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Med vänliga hälsningar / Kind Regards / Med vennlig hilsen<br>
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Benny Samuelsen<br>
Registry Manager - Domainexpert<br>
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Nordreg AB - ICANN accredited registrar<br>
IANA-ID: 638<br>
Phone: </span><a href="tel:%2B46.42197000"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">+46.42197000</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><br>
Direct: </span><a href="tel:%2B47.32260201"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">+47.32260201</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><br>
Mobile: </span><a href="tel:%2B47.40410200"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">+47.40410200</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><br>
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<span class="im">> On 16 Feb 2018, at 19:38, John Horton via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <</span></span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span class="im">>
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<span class="im">> Just imagine how much of all of this could be avoided if registrars were willing to agree to a commercial/individual distinction.</span><br>
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<span class="im">> John Horton</span><br>
<span class="im">> President and CEO, LegitScript</span><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 10:33 AM, John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <</span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
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> GDPR taken to its logical extreme very well could require us to abandon IP reputation and to emptying our firewalls. I mean, no consumer authorized me to process their IP just by attacking me, right?<br>
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> Privacy absolutism is not the answer unless you basically want to mandate the internet backbone be converted to tor.<br>
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> John Bambenek<br>
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> On Feb 16, 2018, at 06:09, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <</span><a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">michele@blacknight.com</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
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>> It’s an interesting read, but it has several flaws.<br>
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>> It refers to registrars solely and ignores registries.<br>
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>> It also makes it sound like issues around whois are “new”, which we all know isn’t true.<br>
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>> The comments about IP addresses make it sound like it’s a theoretical concern, yet there is case law eg:<br>
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>> </span><a href="https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/european-court-of-justice-rules-ip-addresses-are-personal-data-1.2835704" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/european-court-of-justice-rules-ip-addresses-are-personal-data-1.2835704</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><br>
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>> Mr Michele Neylon<br>
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>> Blacknight Solutions<br>
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>> Hosting, Colocation & Domains<br>
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>> </span><a href="https://www.blacknight.com/" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">https://www.blacknight.com/</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><br>
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>> </span><a href="http://blacknight.blog/" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">http://blacknight.blog/</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><br>
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>> Intl. </span><a href="tel:%2B353%20%280%29%2059%20%209183072"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">+353 (0) 59 9183072</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><br>
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>> Direct Dial: </span><a href="tel:%2B353%20%280%2959%209183090"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">+353 (0)59 9183090</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><br>
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>> Personal blog: </span><a href="https://michele.blog/" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">https://michele.blog/</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><br>
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>> Some thoughts: </span><a href="https://ceo.hosting/" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">https://ceo.hosting/</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><br>
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>> From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg <</span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
on behalf of Dotzero <</span><a href="mailto:dotzero@gmail.com"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">dotzero@gmail.com</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">><br>
>> Date: Friday 16 February 2018 at 00:07<br>
>> To: RDS PDP WG <</span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">><br>
>> Subject: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Krebs On Security article RE whois and GDRP<br>
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>> </span><a href="https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/02/new-eu-privacy-law-may-weaken-security/" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/02/new-eu-privacy-law-may-weaken-security/</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><br>
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