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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Allison<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Have I ever advocated that?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I’ve always felt that security and privacy go hand in hand.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Michele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Mr Michele Neylon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#191919;background:white">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">,Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">allison nixon <elsakoo@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday 16 February 2018 at 17:54<br>
<b>To: </b>Michele Neylon <michele@blacknight.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Dotzero <dotzero@gmail.com>, RDS PDP WG <gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Krebs On Security article RE whois and GDRP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailOriginalBody">How do you guys expect to have privacy without security?<o:p></o:p></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 7:09 AM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <</span><a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">michele@blacknight.com</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-GB">It’s an interesting read, but it has several flaws.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-GB">It refers to registrars solely and ignores registries.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-GB">It also makes it sound like issues around whois are “new”, which we all know isn’t true.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-GB">The comments about IP addresses make it sound like it’s a theoretical concern, yet there is case law eg:</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span><a href="https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/european-court-of-justice-rules-ip-addresses-are-personal-data-1.2835704" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-GB">https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/european-court-of-justice-rules-ip-addresses-are-personal-data-1.2835704</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Mr Michele Neylon</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Blacknight Solutions</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Hosting, Colocation & Domains</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span><a href="https://www.blacknight.com/" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-GB">https://www.blacknight.com/</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span><a href="http://blacknight.blog/" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-GB">http://blacknight.blog/</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Intl.
</span></span><a href="tel:+353%2059%20918%203072" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-GB">+353 (0) 59 9183072</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Direct Dial:
</span></span><a href="tel:+353%2059%20918%203090" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-GB">+353 (0)59 9183090</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Personal blog:
</span></span><a href="https://michele.blog/" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-GB">https://michele.blog/</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Some thoughts:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">gnso-rds-pdp-wg <</span></span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">>
on behalf of Dotzero <</span></span><a href="mailto:dotzero@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">dotzero@gmail.com</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday 16 February 2018 at 00:07<br>
<b>To: </b>RDS PDP WG <</span></span><a href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Krebs On Security article RE whois and GDRP</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</a></span><a href="https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/02/new-eu-privacy-law-may-weaken-security/" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/02/new-eu-privacy-law-may-weaken-security/</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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