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    <p>We expect there will be privacy AND security. You are clever
      people, you will figure something out on how to deliver your
      services without requiring the violation of the privacy of all
      registrants. <br>
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    <p>Volker<br>
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    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 16.02.2018 um 18:53 schrieb allison
      nixon:<br>
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cite="mid:CACLR7wKT2dzQJcxxrxaxkK+pXC+vrMT2oq50dh0abc4SoJcADA@mail.gmail.com">
      <div dir="ltr">How do you guys expect to have privacy without
        security?</div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 7:09 AM,
          Michele Neylon - Blacknight <span dir="ltr"><<a
              href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank"
              moz-do-not-send="true">michele@blacknight.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">It’s an
                    interesting read, but it has several flaws.
                  </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">It refers to
                    registrars solely and ignores registries.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">It also makes it
                    sound like issues around whois are “new”, which we
                    all know isn’t true.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The comments
                    about IP addresses make it sound like it’s a
                    theoretical concern, yet there is case law eg:</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><a
href="https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/european-court-of-justice-rules-ip-addresses-are-personal-data-1.2835704"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.irishtimes.com/<wbr>business/technology/european-<wbr>court-of-justice-rules-ip-<wbr>addresses-are-personal-data-1.<wbr>2835704</a></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"
                      lang="EN-GB">--</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"
                      lang="EN-GB">Mr Michele Neylon</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"
                      lang="EN-GB">Blacknight Solutions</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"
                      lang="EN-GB">Hosting, Colocation & Domains</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"
                      lang="EN-GB"><a href="https://www.blacknight.com/"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.blacknight.com/</a></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"
                      lang="EN-GB"><a href="http://blacknight.blog/"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://blacknight.blog/</a></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"
                      lang="EN-GB">Intl. <a
                        href="tel:+353%2059%20918%203072"
                        value="+353599183072" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">+353 (0) 59  9183072</a></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"
                      lang="EN-GB">Direct Dial: <a
                        href="tel:+353%2059%20918%203090"
                        value="+353599183090" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">+353 (0)59 9183090</a></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"
                      lang="EN-GB">Personal blog: <a
                        href="https://michele.blog/" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://michele.blog/</a></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"
                      lang="EN-GB">Some thoughts: <a
                        href="https://ceo.hosting/" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://ceo.hosting/</a>
                    </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"
                      lang="EN-GB">------------------------------<wbr>-</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"
                      lang="EN-GB">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd,
                      Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty</span></p>
                </div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"
                    lang="EN-GB">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93
                    X265,Ireland  Company No.: 370845</span><span
                    lang="EN-GB"></span></p>
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                  1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">gnso-rds-pdp-wg
                      <<a
                        href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>>
                      on behalf of Dotzero <<a
                        href="mailto:dotzero@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">dotzero@gmail.com</a>><br>
                      <b>Date: </b>Friday 16 February 2018 at 00:07<br>
                      <b>To: </b>RDS PDP WG <<a
                        href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
                      <b>Subject: </b>[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Krebs On
                      Security article RE whois and GDRP</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><a
                        name="m_7681310775235071592__MailOriginalBody"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"><br>
                      </a><a
href="https://krebsonsecurity.com/2018/02/new-eu-privacy-law-may-weaken-security/"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span>https://krebsonsecurity.com/<wbr>2018/02/new-eu-privacy-law-<wbr>may-weaken-security/</span><span></span></a><span></span></p>
                  </div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Michael Hammer</span></p>
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