<div>Well said, Theo.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I take the point that Andrew makes that there is not new information here; that is true. Some, like Stephanie, have been advancing these arguments for years. <br></div><div><br></div><div>But when the status quo at ICANN is challenged by either governments, business, or non-commercial users, the two former more powerful voices are given significant deference in the outcomes of policy development, so, lacking the 'muscle' of financial power and state power, until now not everyone has been listening to these well-developed recommendations put forward by those with awareness of the privacy and data protection laws in many jurisdictions. One day, I hope we all start to listen.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Ayden <br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> On 9 March 2018 7:48 PM, theo geurts <gtheo@xs4all.nl> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"><p><br></p><div>Hi Andrew,<br></div><div> <br></div><div> These recommendations go beyond WHOIS, but yet tie in directly with
issues we will face as a WG. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> Furthermore, this is not a few DPA's from Europe who made these
recommendations; these are the recommendations from DPA's and
experts all over the world, which makes it, in my opinion, a global
recommendation. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> And to kindly to remind everyone again, there are more than 120
countries with data protection laws. So this is not some little tea
club gathering, these recommendations took a lot of time to get
vetted by this group due to the many members. They started working
in November last year on this, so they took their time. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> We would be fools to ignore this. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> Theo<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9-3-2018 17:02, Andrew Sullivan
wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="color: black;"><div style="color: black;"><p style="margin: 0px 0px 1em;"><span class="colour" style="color:black">I think I asked
this before about recommended additional materials: could
you say something about what's new or useful in this paper
that means we ought to read it too? I fear that we are at
that point where everything that is to be said about the RDS
has been said, but not everyone has said it. More input
should only be considered as important if there's something
new, I think.</span><br></p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 1em;"><span class="colour" style="color:black">Best regards,</span><br></p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 1em;"><span class="colour" style="color:black">A</span><br></p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 1em;"><span class="colour" style="color:black">-- <br> Please excuse my clumbsy thums</span></p></div><div style="color: black;"><div><hr style="border: none; border-top: solid #D0D0D0 1.0pt;"><br></div><p style="margin: 10pt 0px;"><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">On March 9, 2018 9:21:32 AM
Stephanie Perrin <a href="mailto:stephanieperrin@mail.utoronto.ca" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><stephanieperrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a> wrote:</span></span></span><br></p><blockquote style="margin: 0 0
0 0.75ex; border-left: 1px solid #808080; padding-left:
0.75ex;" class="gmail_quote" type="cite"><p><span class="size" style="font-size:undefinedpx"><span class="font" style="font-family:Lucida Grande">The
International WOrking Group on Data Protection in
Telecommunications, a group of data commissioners and
experts on DP and IT have released a new paper on
ICANN and RDS. It should be added to our repository,
please.<br> <a href="https://www.datenschutz-berlin.de/pdf/publikationen/working-paper/2017/2017-IWGDPT_Working_Paper_WHOIS_ICANN-en.pdf" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.datenschutz-berlin.de/pdf/publikationen/working-paper/2017/2017-IWGDPT_Working_Paper_WHOIS_ICANN-en.pdf</a></span></span></p><p><span class="size" style="font-size:undefinedpx"><span class="font" style="font-family:Lucida Grande">Stephanie
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