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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-03-11 15:08, Steve Crocker
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<div dir="ltr">Domain names and web sites are not the same. I
think you're suggesting that ICANN would need to know which
domain names have web sites associated with them and then which
of those accept payments in some form. This is digging pretty
deeply into content, which is precisely what ICANN does not and
must not do.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 3:06 PM,
sivasubramanian muthusamy <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 11, 2018 1:01 PM,
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<div dir="auto">Simple. You ask them. “Is this
domain owned by an individual for
non-commercial purposes?”</div>
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<div>Another way is make a distinction is to separate
all websites that have a payment gateway / that accept
payments in some form.</div>
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<div>If we find domains engaged in
commerce registered as personal and
non-commercial, then we send a
complaint. Sure, we gotta define
commercial but surely that is not hard.
We use whatever taxing authority for the
jurisdiction says. </div>
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On Mar 11, 2018, at 10:24, Volker
Greimann <<a
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<div>Please provide a workable,
reasonable method of identifying
the domain names used in
commercial manner amongst the
existing hundreds of million
registered domains. Please also
identify how this determination
can be updated automatically once
the use of a domain name changes.
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<div>The fact is that commercial
use is content. ICANN does not
deal with content except for
very small and specific areas.
ICANN and registrars have no
relationship with the content
that is published under a domain
name. We certainly have no
control over specific uses. </div>
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<div>These details belong on the
websites, as is provided in the
laws in Europe and other
jurisdictions. There is no need
to duplicate this in whois.</div>
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<div>Volker</div>
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<div>On 9. Mar 2018, at
07:49, sivasubramanian
muthusamy <<a
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<div dir="auto">Private
persons (including
private persons in a
public career or a
career of public
exposure) need
privacy. Why is this
notion extended to
protect online
commercial entities of
varying ethical
standards? Does <span
style="font-family:sans-serif">Yourairlinereservations.o<wbr>nlinecommerce</span> have
a right to privacy of
its Registrant data?
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<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif">Their customers don't look for contact
information from
RDS, but in the
entity's
commercial web
site, but the
information is
not there. Many</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif"> online entities </span>operate from
behind layers of
veil that separate
them from
customers and
enable them to
carry on their
commercial
activity with
minimal or
non-existent
accountability. </div>
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style="font-family:sans-serif"><br>
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<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif">Yourairlinereservations.online<wbr>commerce
sells millions
of air tickets
but does not
seem to have a
building
somewhere,
and/or does not
have an employee
with a name. </span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif">Yourairlinereservations.<wbr>onlinecommerce</span><span
style="font-family:sans-serif"> takes your money, takes your information
without
disclosing any
of its own, and
does not have a
phone number or
answer email
messages (<span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:ABeeZee;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">operates
through call
centers,
answers email
messages by
templates) </span>when
you are stranded
Midway with a
ticket that
doesn't work.
Yourcasino takes
your credit card
number,
yourpharmacy
takes your money
and medical
data,
yourholiday owns
your passport,
and all these
entities don't
have an email
address, phone
number or a
building with a
person. </span></div>
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<div dir="auto">Could
we do away with
this notion of
(Registrant)data
privacy where it
concerns an online
entity that
carries out
commercial
monetary
transactions
online? That would
require us to
discriminate
between private
persons and
e-commerce
entities, which
would be a complex
process - agreed.
Nevertheless,
could we think
about this?</div>
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<div>Sivasubramanian
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