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<p>Believe what you want, but we do not want WHOIS to die. We want
to replace it with something legal, that works.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volker<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 11.10.2018 um 17:01 schrieb John
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Let me finish that for you.
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<div>... then we get what we want and whois dies. </div>
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<div>The temp spec is largely unusable to those who actually use
such things. Just killing it would at least be honest. <br>
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On Oct 11, 2018, at 09:57, Volker Greimann <<a
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<p>None of us, but the Temp Spec is on a timer and if it
runs out before there is a solution...<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 11.10.2018 um 15:58 schrieb
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Well it wouldn’t have been my first choice to ditch the
mutlistakeholder model for the sake of moving quickly. <br>
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Well they need to be able get done with the work, even
with those on it looks hard enough to make progress.<br
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the new EPDP specifically excludes all
outsiders thus ensuring that anyone who
actually uses whois will not be represented.<br
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On Oct 10, 2018, at 17:28, Dotzero <<a
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<div dir="ltr" class="">The proposed
termination document reflects the
reality of what has occurred. I'd like
to thank everyone else for their
efforts. I know that we had some
disagreements and the process sometimes
was painful.
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2018 at 9:30 AM Anderson, Marc via
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<p class="MsoNormal">Fellow Next
Gen RDS members,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In March of
this year the RDS PDP leadership
team canceled working group
meetings, effectively putting
the group on hold. This
decision was made because we
heard from ICANN org that it was
considering instituting a
temporary policy that would
greatly impact our work. Out of
respect for members’ time it
didn’t make sense to continue
deliberations.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Since then,
the ICANN board did approve a
temporary specification (<a
href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registration-data-specs-en"
target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registration-data-specs-en</a>).
Subsequent to that, the GNSO
council initiated an expedited
PDP on that temporary
specification (<a
href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-07-19-en"
target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-07-19-en</a>).</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Given all
this, the RDS PDP leadership
team feels it doesn’t make sense
for the working group to
continue and is recommending
termination. The GNSO PDP
manual allows for termination by
the working group and requires a
written “Termination Summary”
delivered to the GNSO council
via the council liaison. The
manual provides “changing
circumstances” as an example of
a reason for termination which
this certainly qualifies as.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Attached you
will find a proposed
“Termination Summary” for the
RDS PDP working group. The
leadership team plans to deliver
by 12 October so the GNSO
council can have it on their
agenda for ICANN 63. Please let
the leadership team know if you
have questions or feedback.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Many thanks
for your hard work on this
project.</p>
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Volker A. Greimann
General Counsel and Policy Manager
KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH
T: +49 6894 9396901
F: +49 6894 9396851
W: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net">www.key-systems.net</a>
Key-systems is a company registered in Germany with Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken: CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registered Offices: Im Oberen Werk 1, DE-66386 St. Ingbert, Germany
Part of the CentralNic Group PLC (LON: CNIC) a company registered in England and Wales with company number 8576358.
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