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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/11/18 10:04 AM, Volker Greimann
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<p>Believe what you want, but we do not want WHOIS to die. We want
to replace it with something legal, that works.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volker<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 11.10.2018 um 17:01 schrieb John
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Let me finish that for you.
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<div>... then we get what we want and whois dies. </div>
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<div>The temp spec is largely unusable to those who actually use
such things. Just killing it would at least be honest. <br>
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On Oct 11, 2018, at 09:57, Volker Greimann <<a
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<p>None of us, but the Temp Spec is on a timer and if it
runs out before there is a solution...<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 11.10.2018 um 15:58
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Well it wouldn’t have been my first choice to ditch the
mutlistakeholder model for the sake of moving quickly. <br>
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Well they need to be able get done with the work,
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that the new EPDP specifically excludes all
outsiders thus ensuring that anyone who
actually uses whois will not be represented.<br
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On Oct 10, 2018, at 17:28, Dotzero <<a
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<div dir="ltr" class="">The proposed
termination document reflects the
reality of what has occurred. I'd like
to thank everyone else for their
efforts. I know that we had some
disagreements and the process
sometimes was painful.
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10, 2018 at 9:30 AM Anderson, Marc
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<p class="MsoNormal">Fellow Next
Gen RDS members,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In March of
this year the RDS PDP
leadership team canceled
working group meetings,
effectively putting the group
on hold. This decision was
made because we heard from
ICANN org that it was
considering instituting a
temporary policy that would
greatly impact our work. Out
of respect for members’ time
it didn’t make sense to
continue deliberations.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Since then,
the ICANN board did approve a
temporary specification (<a
href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registration-data-specs-en"
target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registration-data-specs-en</a>).
Subsequent to that, the GNSO
council initiated an expedited
PDP on that temporary
specification (<a
href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-07-19-en"
target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-07-19-en</a>).</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Given all
this, the RDS PDP leadership
team feels it doesn’t make
sense for the working group to
continue and is recommending
termination. The GNSO PDP
manual allows for termination
by the working group and
requires a written
“Termination Summary”
delivered to the GNSO council
via the council liaison. The
manual provides “changing
circumstances” as an example
of a reason for termination
which this certainly qualifies
as.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Attached
you will find a proposed
“Termination Summary” for the
RDS PDP working group. The
leadership team plans to
deliver by 12 October so the
GNSO council can have it on
their agenda for ICANN 63.
Please let the leadership team
know if you have questions or
feedback.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Many thanks
for your hard work on this
project.</p>
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Volker A. Greimann
General Counsel and Policy Manager
KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH
T: +49 6894 9396901
F: +49 6894 9396851
W: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.key-systems.net" moz-do-not-send="true">www.key-systems.net</a>
Key-systems is a company registered in Germany with Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken: CEO: Alexander Siffrin
Registered Offices: Im Oberen Werk 1, DE-66386 St. Ingbert, Germany
Part of the CentralNic Group PLC (LON: CNIC) a company registered in England and Wales with company number 8576358.
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