<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Let me finish that for you.<div><br></div><div>... then we get what we want and whois dies. </div><div><br></div><div>The temp spec is largely unusable to those who actually use such things. Just killing it would at least be honest. <br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">--<div>John Bambenek</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Oct 11, 2018, at 09:57, Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
  
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    <p>None of us, but the Temp Spec is on a timer and if it runs out
      before there is a solution...<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 11.10.2018 um 15:58 schrieb John
      Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg:<br>
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      Well it wouldn’t have been my first choice to ditch the
      mutlistakeholder model for the sake of moving quickly. <br>
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        <div>John Bambenek</div>
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        On Oct 11, 2018, at 02:53, "<a href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se" moz-do-not-send="true">benny@nordreg.se</a>" <<a href="mailto:benny@nordreg.se" moz-do-not-send="true">benny@nordreg.se</a>>
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              <div class="">On 11 Oct 2018, at 00:49, John Bambenek via
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                <div dir="auto" class="">I did take notice that the new
                  EPDP specifically excludes all outsiders thus ensuring
                  that anyone who actually uses whois will not be
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                    On Oct 10, 2018, at 17:28, Dotzero <<a href="mailto:dotzero@gmail.com" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">dotzero@gmail.com</a>>
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                      <div dir="ltr" class="">The proposed termination
                        document reflects the reality of what has
                        occurred. I'd like to thank everyone else for
                        their efforts. I know that we had some
                        disagreements and the process sometimes was
                        painful.
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="">On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at
                          9:30 AM Anderson, Marc via gnso-rds-pdp-wg
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Fellow Next Gen RDS
                                members,</p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">In March of this year
                                the RDS PDP leadership team canceled
                                working group meetings, effectively
                                putting the group on hold.  This
                                decision was made because we heard from
                                ICANN org that it was considering
                                instituting a temporary policy that
                                would greatly impact our work.  Out of
                                respect for members’ time it didn’t make
                                sense to continue deliberations.</p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">Since then, the ICANN
                                board did approve a temporary
                                specification (<a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registration-data-specs-en" target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registration-data-specs-en</a>). 
                                Subsequent to that, the GNSO council
                                initiated an expedited PDP on that
                                temporary specification (<a href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-07-19-en" target="_blank" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-07-19-en</a>).</p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">Given all this, the
                                RDS PDP leadership team feels it doesn’t
                                make sense for the working group to
                                continue and is recommending
                                termination.  The GNSO PDP manual allows
                                for termination by the working group and
                                requires a written “Termination Summary”
                                delivered to the GNSO council via the
                                council liaison.  The manual provides
                                “changing circumstances” as an example
                                of a reason for termination which this
                                certainly qualifies as.</p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">Attached you will
                                find a proposed “Termination Summary”
                                for the RDS PDP working group.  The
                                leadership team plans to deliver by 12
                                October so the GNSO council can have it
                                on their agenda for ICANN 63.  Please
                                let the leadership team know if you have
                                questions or feedback.</p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">Many thanks for your
                                hard work on this project.</p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">Best,<br class="">
                                RDS Leadership team</p>
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