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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I received them but haven’t had a chance to review them yet. I wondered myself why your comments weren’t mentioned. I saw yours before Philip’s.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> owner-gnso-review-dt@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-review-dt@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Avri Doria<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 04, 2015 10:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jen Wolfe; gnso-review-dt@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-review-dt] Comment on newest revision of the Westlake review<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi,<br>
<br>
Did my comments not reach the list?<br>
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avri<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 04-May-15 10:26, Jen Wolfe wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hello everyone! I hope you all had a great weekend!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank you to the Westlake team and staff for all of the hard work in assembling this information, particularly the detailed listing of all comments made throughout
the process and responses by Westlake. And, thank you to Chuck and Philip for forwarding these comments in advance of the meeting – very helpful in preparing for the call!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I look forward to talking with you all at the top of the hour. We have a two-hour time slot scheduled today and a follow up meeting next week with an additional
two hours to receive comments from Westlake and provide additional comments about the report before it is officially released to the public.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We plan to provide Westlake an initial opportunity to provide an overview of the report today and then will go through the report section by section to provide
everyone opportunities to comment. We will continue to capture those comments, as in prior discussions, and Westlake will continue to document its response to those comments.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I look forward to the discussion and appreciate all of your hard work and time!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">With kindest regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jen</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.5pt"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#0E325F;text-transform:uppercase">jennifer c. WOLFE, esq., apr, SSBB</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.5pt"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#0E325F;text-transform:uppercase">Founder & President, wolfe domain, a digital brand strategy advisory firm</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.5pt"><b><i><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#4BACC6;text-transform:uppercase">IAM 300 - TOp 300 global ip strategists 2011-2014</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:owner-gnso-review-dt@icann.org">owner-gnso-review-dt@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:owner-gnso-review-dt@icann.org">mailto:owner-gnso-review-dt@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>BRG<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 04, 2015 4:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-review-dt@icann.org">gnso-review-dt@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [gnso-review-dt] Comment on newest revision of the Westlake review</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I would like to thank Westlake for the latest report and make the following 5 comments and recommendations.<br>
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">1. Page 14 preamble on structure</span></strong><b><br>
</b>"</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Many people commented on the GNSO’s structure and complexity and argued that these needed to change. We do not consider that the GNSO’s structure is perfect, or that it cannot
be improved, but, having analysed the issues in some detail, our view is that the structure of the GNSO is not the main cause of its most pressing challenges.<br>
In addition, the current structure of the GNSO has been in place for only about three years</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">."<br>
This comment is misleading.<br>
The 2 House structure was implemented in 2008. That is 7 years ago.<br>
Do Westlake mean the current form of the PDP and Working Groups?<br>
This is different.<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Please change the text to clarify.</span></strong><b><br>
</b><br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">2. The "pressing challenges" and recommendations 36 - 41.</span></strong><b><br>
</b>These all focus on diversity.<br>
They are fine recommendations but NOT ones that addresses the issue of structure.
<strong><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Please change the text to clarify.</span></strong><br>
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">3.ICANN Board</span></strong><b><br>
</b>In its resolution of 28 September 2013 the ICANN Board stated:<br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">"<strong><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">GNSO Structure is unlikely</span></strong> to accommodate the anticipated new stream of stakeholders resulting from the
expansion of the TLD space. The GNSO Review will be an important vehicle for considering and addressing this issue. The unbalance that is already occurring needs to be addressed by the GNSO Review.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
”<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Why is this Board resolution not addressed in the report?</span></strong><b><br>
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4. Page 14: "</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Many people commented on the GNSO’s structure and complexity and argued that these needed to change</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">"<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Why is the opinion of "</span></strong></span><strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">many people</span></strong><strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">"
not addressed in the report?</span></strong><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><br>
</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><br>
5. Understanding the past and the present.<br>
Little attempt to analyse the lack of relevance* today of the 2 Houses structure has been made.<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Why is this?</span></strong><b><br>
</b>*See below for a snip from the BRG survey submission</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><br>
Philip Sheppard<br>
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">EDIT FROM BRG PAPER AND SURVEY SUBMISSION</span></strong></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">The 2008 GNSO reform created two Houses within the GNSO: the Contracted Party House and the Non-Contracted Party House. Put simply there is a suppliers House and a users House.
And those Houses were given equal votes. This was a change from the GNSO of several separate Constituencies. This created a 4-tier structure.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">The rationale for the 2008 reform was threefold.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">a) Separable interests.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">There was a belief that the underlying user groups and supplier groups had separable interests that could be divided into six separable entities (registries, registrars, business
interests, intellectual property interests, internet service providers, non-commercial interests).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">b) Commonality.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">The rationale for the two Houses was that suppliers are impacted economically by policy and may be impacted in the same way: and users are impacted in a variety of ways by policy
and may be impacted in the same way. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">c) Balance between the Houses.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">There was a belief that the interests of users and suppliers should be balanced.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">Issues</span></u><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">In 2014, everything has changed. The rationale has changed. Indeed, the current structure creates new conflicts of interest.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">a) Separable interests.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">While different interests continue, it is no longer true that the separable interests are accurately reflected by the six separable entities (registries, registrars, business interests,
intellectual property interests, internet service providers, non-commercial interests). There are two reasons for this.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:blue">§</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:blue">
</span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">Conflicting relationships. There is a complex web of relationships that overlap and conflict within the six groups. A typical .brand registry may be simultaneously: a Registry, a Business Constituency
member, an Intellectual Property Constituency member, and have a contractual relationship with other generic registries for back-end services.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:blue">§</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:blue">
</span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">What is commercial? The old division within the users House between commercial and non-commercial is no longer relevant. Just within the 400 .brand registry applicants, some 15 are not-for-profit
organisations representing some $69 billion in annual turnover. Two of these are current BRG members.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">b) Commonality.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">The commonality assumption was historically questionable.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">The commonality of interests within the old groups has changed.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:blue">§</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:blue">
</span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">It was <u>never</u> true that users within each House acted as if they were impacted in the same way by policy. There has often been disagreement between commercial and non-commercial users,
and between types of non-commercial user. This has been seen most clearly on issues connected with crime prevention (such as accurate Whois records and a difference of opinion on the balance of freedom of speech versus crime prevention).
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:blue">§</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:blue">
</span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">It is <u>no longer</u> true that Registries are impacted economically by policy in the same way. The 400 .brand Registries will have a different view on many policy issues to the 800 generic
Registries. This divide will be most clear where there is a choice between the costs imposed by a policy and the benefits of that policy such as crime prevention. In such a choice, generic registries and brand registries will typically have different opinions
on cost versus benefit.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">c) Balance between the Houses.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">There is no objective reason for the current balance of votes.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:blue">§</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:blue">
</span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">The belief that the interests of users and suppliers should be balanced was predicated not on an external objective reason but on an internal compromise. In the 1999 Names Council a number of
groups self-formed. These groups became the Constituencies of the GNSO. These groups in 2008 were charged to agree GNSO reform but they disagreed. The Houses concept was a compromise proposed to overcome this disagreement by severing the link between seats
and votes. It was adopted out of expediency. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">d) Unnecessary complexity of Council /House /Stakeholder Group /Constituency</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:blue">§</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:blue">
</span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">The Houses structure has made voting unnecessarily complex.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:blue">§</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:blue">
</span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:blue">Post 2008, for some groups Council changed from a 2-tier to a 4-tier structure. This has created unnecessary complexity and duplicated meeting agendas.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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