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<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">Michelle DeSmyter:Dear all, Welcome to the GNSO Review Working Group call on Tuesday, 15, November 2016 14:00 UTC.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Agenda page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_MiS4Aw&d=DgICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=K8nsddsgh2UUKt6hBCtyp_hwru8jn47UQtZ70dCZWPE&s=SWFH6TT9CIxz3CJkGe7-E8b2Kap3rZAGGrIANYH1SVg&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_MiS4Aw&d=DgICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=K8nsddsgh2UUKt6hBCtyp_hwru8jn47UQtZ70dCZWPE&s=SWFH6TT9CIxz3CJkGe7-E8b2Kap3rZAGGrIANYH1SVg&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Heath Dixon:Good morning.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Hi there, welcome!!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Pascal Bekono:Good afternoon dear all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jen Wolfe:Hello everyone!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Pascal Bekono:Hi Jen</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> avri doria:it would be painful for me - until 0030 with my next call at 0400</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:Thanks Avri -- noted!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Heath Dixon:I have to walk my kids to the bus, so I need to drop at the top of the hour. Sorry.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:Thanks Heath. Noted also.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:All -- The redline in the document are some additional changes suggested by staff.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:you may also want to include something in relation to regular reporting / updating to the GNSO Council?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:every ICANN meeting?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:it could be in the form of a status report that is provided to the GNSO</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:and if need be a discussion could be scheduled at an ICANN meeting</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Heath Dixon:I think that's a good timeframe.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Heath Dixon:It should be at the GNSO on the agenda.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:The idea would be to first get an overview of what exists to be able to then determine what is needed, also factoring in what the costs would be and how this are expected to be covered (priority may
need to be given or cost-benefit analysis conducted). </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:a first step might be to review ongoing efforts in relation to the same subject to determine whether a separate WG is needed?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rafik:linking the creation of new WG to the outcome of diversity subgroup outcome?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:is it my line or Avri sounds like an alien?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rafik:having hard time to hear...</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:@Avri: Your microphone is very distorted.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:Could you type in the chat?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:@Marika: Alien isn't what I would have gone for..., but not just your line. :)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Sara Bockey:Very strange distortion</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:sounded like one of those voices you get in sci fi movies :-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:@Marika: Yup. :)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:so not sure if that makes it an alien or the captain of the ship :-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> avri doria:1. how do we define effectiveness. 2. we are not really doing this and i think that wee are wiggling out of actually doing it with the way this is being 'done'</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:@Avri - I think most PDP WGs are currently applying rotation to their regular meetings?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> avri doria:i.e. we alwasy favor europe and the Us in terms of timings. this is not fair and is not in keeping with the recommendation.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rafik:@Marika I think the risk is that "efectiveness" become self-fulfiling, starting with times unfriendly for folks in some timeoznes , then it will exclude them in facto and so only those in friendly timezones
and so on</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> avri doria:(and the fact that i am in Seoul at the moment does not prejudice my opinion :)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Good rewording on this recommendation.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:@Rafik - agree and it is a real challenge as the different PDP WGs rotate dutifully but we definitely see less participation during the timezone that is less convenient for the majority. However,
based on that input, the WG may be able to review / discuss what measures could be taken to counter that trend?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> avri doria:i lost audio.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> avri doria:will try to get it back. but now that Amr is there, and he is primary for NCSg, my being here matters less.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:I'm actually not primary for the NCSG, Avri. Just a participant in this group, and checking in/observing since I haven't been attending calls.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Heath Dixon:Agreed.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Sara Bockey:can you scroll down so I can see the timeline better</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Heath Dixon:We can always finish early if we're making good progress.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Sara Bockey:no...move it up</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:@Jen: Got it!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Sara Bockey:I agree that more time is needed for the High Priority</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> avri doria:rebooted, so am back.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:the Board timeline for approval may extend beyond the New Year</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> avri doria:apologies Amr and Rafik. it is Rafik that iis the NCSG primary.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:@All: I will circulate the document today.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Marika Konings:as the Board committee will look at it first before it goes to the Board</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rafik:the schedule still up for motion ot gnso ?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> avri doria:who is making the motion, Rafik?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> avri doria:and Rafik can second if he wishes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:Indeed!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Rafik:thanks :)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> avri doria:bye and happy new year</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:Thank you everyone and happy holidays!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Pascal Bekono:thanks, bye</div>
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