[Gnso-review-wg] Agenda and Materials for 19 October Meeting 12:00 UTC

Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de
Wed Oct 18 20:33:45 UTC 2017


Yes, phase 1 is sufficient for this purpose.

Thanks and regards

Wolf-Ulrich


Am 18.10.2017 um 22:29 schrieb Julie Hedlund:
>
> Thanks Wolf-Ulrich for the suggestion and we’ll note your apologies 
> for tomorrow’s call.
>
> As to your suggestion, the WG has not finalized the implementation 
> charters for any of the Phase 2 recommendations.  The WG has reviewed 
> the charter for recommendation 6, but it is being put on hold and 
> combined with recommendations 33 and 36 as they all are dependent on 
> the deliberations of the CCWG-Accountability Work Stream 2 Diversity 
> Sub Team.  The WG also discussed recommendations 26-29, but staff is 
> still working on revisions to that charter (as it is a quite long 
> charter) so deliberations aren’t complete.
>
> Perhaps the WG could highlight a couple of the implemented charters 
> from Phase 1. We’ll take this up for discussion tomorrow.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Julie
>
> *From: *<gnso-review-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of 
> "Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>
> *Date: *Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 4:25 PM
> *To: *"gnso-review-wg at icann.org" <gnso-review-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Gnso-review-wg] Agenda and Materials for 19 October 
> Meeting 12:00 UTC
>
> Thanks Julie,
>
> the status report looks great to me.
>
> With regards to the council update, we should have at least one or two 
> concrete recommendations of phase 1 and 2 to be named. So we could 
> explain by example how we approached our determinations. Otherwise it 
> may be hard for council members to recall what it is about.
>
> Apologies again for missing the call tomorrow.
>
> Best regards
>
> Wolf-Ulrich
>
> Am 18.10.2017 um 00:41 schrieb Julie Hedlund:
>
>     Dear GNSO Review Working Group members,
>
>     Please see below the agenda for the meeting on Thursday, 19
>     October at 12:00 UTC.  Please also see the attached materials
>     amended per the notes below from the meeting on 12 October.  In
>     addition, a revised charter for recommendation 18 is attached for
>     consideration and discussion.
>
>     Draft agenda:
>
>      1. Review agenda
>      2. SOIs
>      3. Revised OEC/GNSO Council Report and Slides
>      4. Revised Charter for Recommendations 10 and 11
>      5. Revised Charter for Recommendation 18
>      6. Meeting schedule
>      7. AOB
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Julie
>
>     Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
>
>     *Action Items/Discussion Notes 12 October*
>
>     **
>
>     *Action Items: *
>
>     Draft Implementation Status Report:
>
>      1. Move key points on status to the beginning of the Executive
>         Summary;
>      2. As the report will be provided in November, any
>         recommendations finalized in October should be marked as
>         completed;
>      3. On the timeline, create a separate section in the Executive
>         Summary and include a WG judgement that the work is expected
>         to be completed within the original timeline, but if there are
>         any issues that could adversely affect the timeline these will
>         be brought to the attention of the OEC;
>      4. Produce slides for the GNSO Council update.
>
>     Charter for Recommendations 10/11:
>
>      1. Include pointers to relevant sections of the Working Group
>         Guidelines that could address issues where there are strongly
>         convergent opinions in a PDP WG;
>      2. Provide suggested text for a WG determination.
>
>     *Notes:*
>
>     /1. SOIs: No updates/
>
>     /2. Draft Implementation Status Report for OEC/GNSO Council:/
>
>     Staff summary of the report:
>
>     -- OEC has asked that this WG transmit final report to the OEC.
>     The OEC will review over email. No formal presentation is needed.
>     This report can form the basis of the update to the GNSO Council
>     on 1 Nov at ICANN60.
>
>     -- OEC support staff will clarify if the GNSO Council will need to
>     make a formal approval of the report through a motion. It is
>     likely that formal approval will not be needed.
>
>     -- Question: How much time do we have to update the Council? Can
>     we ask Council for any feedback or objections during this update?
>     We are not expecting a big discussion or any major issues raised.
>     Response: Draft schedule is not yet available, but likely no more
>     than 15 mins.
>
>     -- The wording in the original Board resolution approving the plan
>     notes updates from the WG to the OEC, not from the Council,
>     indicating that there is likely no official approval needed.
>     Transparency is still a priority.
>
>     -- Status summary: 9 out of 11 of the Phase 1 recommendations had
>     already been implemented through previous work.
>
>     -- OEC is asking for implementation status. With work underway,
>     those approved as implemented have been implemented through
>     previous work. The timeline antiicipated additional work would be
>     needed, but this was not the case.
>
>     -- The final two recommendations 10 and 11 may be able to be
>     resolved later on this call.
>
>     -- Phases 2 and 3: The Working Group has reviewed and discussed
>     the implementation charters for the 5 Phase II Recommendations and
>     2 charters for recommendations moved from Phase 1 to Phase 2. 
>     Staff is combining recommendations 6, 33, (Phase 2) with 36 (Phase
>     3) as these all relate to diversity and thus are pending the
>     recommendations from the Cross-Community Working Group Work Stream
>     2 Diversity Sub Team recommendations.  The Working Group will
>     begin discussion of Phase 3 recommendations in November 2017.
>
>     -- Dependencies with WS 2 Diversity Sub Team are discussed
>     explicitly because the OEC has expressed interest in this issue.
>
>     -- Timelines for Phase 1, 2, and 3 are included in the report.
>
>     -- The Phase 3 recommendations have been grouped by priority in
>     the chart, reflecting priorities expressed by OEC staff.
>
>     -- Dates have been adjusted to reflect progress. No end dates have
>     been extended beyond final targets identified earlier.
>
>     -- Draft slides for Council presentation will be available next
>     week for WG review.
>
>     -- Suggestion: Single chart in the presentation for all phases.
>
>     From the Chat:
>
>     Krishna Seeburn - Kris: sounds good
>
>     Lori Schulman: Sounds practical
>
>     -- Comment: Consider changing "GNSO2 Review" on page 1 to "GNOS
>     Review 2".  Response - this is how the OEC refers to this report
>     -- "GNSO2 Review" - This title was included in template provided
>     by OEC staff.
>
>     -- Main message of exec summary is in the last paragraph. Shift
>     this to the beginning of the exec summary.
>
>     Section 1: Recommendations Implemented To Date:
>
>     -- We will send report after ICANN60. Can we adjust language that
>     currently reads ". . . are expected to be completed in October 2017."
>
>     -- First paragraph on 2nd page of exec summary: should we add a
>     judgment from our group about the recent timeline? For example,
>     that we are confident in our ability to keep with the timeline
>     until the end of next year, or if there are any indications that
>     would weaken this judgment. Staff response -- in addition to add a
>     single graphic, staff would like to add timeline as another
>     section of the executive summary with an intro paragraph stating
>     that the WG is confident it will be able to meet the timeline.  We
>     can also say that if anything comes up that will impact the
>     timeline that the WG will make the OEC aware.
>
>     -- Recommendations Implemented to date - Phase 1 - Work already
>     underway. Going through example of Recommendation 8.
>
>     -- OEC asked for links to reports for each of the items. These are
>     included in the green section at the bottom of each recommendation
>     summary.
>
>     Section 2: Upcoming Recommendations to be Completed:
>
>     -- If we can resolve recommendations 10 and 11, we move these to
>     Section 1.
>
>     -- Phase 2: High Priority Items - each item in this section
>     includes Proposed Implementation Steps
>
>     -- Recs 6,33,26 - staff will work to complete the consolidation of
>     these three items into a single charter. Dependencies are called
>     out in the text. Based on WS2 SubTeam on Diversity timeline, we
>     are anticipating addressing this one around June 2018.
>
>     -- Recs 26-29 - work is underway. We discussed in 28 Sept meeting.
>     We have some additional work on each of these recommendations to
>     do. This will be updated in the report if progress is made on
>     action items.
>
>     -- Staff will send a revised version of the report today and leave
>     open for comments into next week.
>
>     -- Item to fix: Header on medium and low priority items (page 21)
>     should say Phase 3, not Phase 2.
>
>     -- Medium priority items are listed followed by low priority
>     items. Groupings are consistent with grouping presented in
>     implementation plan.
>
>     -- Text comes directly from implementation plan for this section.
>
>     -- Timing: We can give the report to the OEC as soon as we have
>     reported to the GNSO Council (early November). Anything scheduled
>     for completion in October should be marked as complete.
>
>     -- Review of the report may not need to go through a consensus
>     call. Suggestion to finalize by 19 Oct to make the document
>     deadline for Council meeting at ICANN60.
>
>     -- Feedback - This seems like an appropriate approach. Not sure if
>     the OEC is diving into recommendations for the time being. But
>     good to have the details available in case they need additional
>     information.
>
>     From the chat:
>
>     Krishna Seeburn - Kris: i think we may need a more clearer
>     discussion with oters on this because i seem to find that in many
>     policies the work is stalling
>
>     Krishna Seeburn - Kris: i suggest that that be on the agenda
>     clearly stated
>
>     /3. Charter Discussions:/
>
>     -- No updates to items 26-29. Next items will be Phase 3. Staff
>     needs to look at how these items should be grouped. There are a
>     couple of items on hold
>
>     -- Recommendations 10-11 related to using a facilitator -- was on
>     hold pending Geographic Names Session at ICANN59. Staff can
>     provide an update.
>
>     -- Pilot project is complete, survey was published, we have the
>     results.
>
>     -- The WG discussed whether there should be guidelines. Concern
>     was raised that it would be difficult or inadvisable to mandate
>     use of facilitation. Ad hoc funding is available and was most
>     recently used for geographic names sessions at ICANN59. There is a
>     report from the facilitator with recommendations.
>
>     -- Suggestion: adjust charter to make use of these
>     recommendations. Staff can provide a summary of the outcomes of
>     the ICANN59 sessions, noting the specific reasons why a
>     facilitator was brought in for this session.
>
>     -- Potential text stating that that current system of selectively
>     bringing in facilitators is working.
>
>     -- Staff can proposed revised text and then the group can proceed
>     with a consensus call.
>
>     -- Where are we in terms of the relationship between the outcome
>     of these facilitated sessions and the work product we are working
>     on? In the end does it help us to cover what was expected in these
>     recommendations?
>
>     -- Is this an overall working concept for any facilitated meeting?
>     Beyond the geographic names sessions, there are a lot of big
>     challenging issues with polarized views in the major PDPs. Any
>     recommendations related to facilitation should be something we
>     should support.
>
>     -- These recommendations would be relevant to any WG considering
>     facilitation. Our evaluation is that groups can request
>     facilitations during or outside of a meeting. Rec 11 refers to the
>     Pilot Program. Staff is suggesting that we indicate, looking at
>     the current status using the example of SubPro being able to get
>     facilitation at ICANN59, demonstrates that WGs can get this
>     assistance if they need it. We can recommend not using formal
>     guidelines because needs vary, and that this recommendation has
>     been met as there is already a process for meeting needs in the
>     future.
>
>     -- Perhaps the guidelines should be guidelines about when you
>     should ask for facilitation, as opposed to guidelines about how to
>     proceed if facilitation is requested. This will help ensure that
>     WGs do request assistance when they need it.
>
>     -- Mandated piece is out of scope of these recommendations. The
>     recommendations are about making sure there is an opportunity for
>     facilitation, not a requirement.
>
>     -- What does staff need from the WG on this recommendation?
>
>     -- Staff will incorporate a suggested WG determination and look at
>     WG guidelines and look at whether there are guidelines about how
>     to proceed if there are diverging views about whether facilitation
>     is needed.
>
>     -- We can also revisit Recommendation 18. If we do this, we will
>     have completed all Phase 1 work, which can be reflected in the OEC
>     Report.
>
>     From the Chat:
>
>     Krishna Seeburn - Kris: thanks for the appraisal...i think it has
>     it's weight and support the idea
>
>     Krishna Seeburn - Kris: but i think a good briefing for the group
>     onlist would be important
>
>     Krishna Seeburn - Kris: i would like to know the impact from the
>     objectives and real outputs
>
>     /4. Meeting Schedule: Next meeting is in one week -- 19 October/
>
>
>
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