[Gnso-review-wg] [Ext] Re: REMINDER FOR REVIEW: Revised Implementation Final Report/Motion/Slides

Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de
Mon Jul 30 20:57:01 UTC 2018


All,

I'm fine with the report and the motion. I think Rafik - in presenting 
the motion - can very clearly cover the notes.

Thank you and best regards

Wolf-Ulrich


Am 30.07.2018 um 21:49 schrieb Julie Hedlund:
>
> Thanks Kris!  We’ve tried to capture those notes in the slides.
>
> Best,
>
> Julie
>
> *From: *Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Monday, July 30, 2018 at 9:02 AM
> *To: *Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org>
> *Cc: *"gnso-review-wg at icann.org" <gnso-review-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [Gnso-review-wg] REMINDER FOR REVIEW: Revised 
> Implementation Final Report/Motion/Slides
>
> I do not think much to add but ensure that wolf-ulrich’s concern is 
> taken on board. The question being the charter and also disbanding of 
> the group potentially and the different points for rafik to take on 
> board to discuss. Be it as note for staff and review for GNSO and 
> BOARD. I am just trying to remind so that we do not lose sight of the 
> discussion.
>
>
>
>     On Jul 30, 2018, at 16:53, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org
>     <mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>> wrote:
>
>     Dear GNSO Review Working Group members,
>
>     Per the message below, this is a reminder to provide any feedback
>     not later than*_1800 UTC on Monday, 30 July_*.  The goal is to
>     provide the final versions for Rafik Dammak to send to the GNSO
>     Council*_by COB Monday, 30 July_*.
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Julie
>
>     *From:*Gnso-review-wg <gnso-review-wg-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-review-wg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Julie
>     Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>>
>     *Date:*Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 2:05 PM
>     *To:*"gnso-review-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-review-wg at icann.org>"
>     <gnso-review-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-review-wg at icann.org>>
>     *Subject:*[Gnso-review-wg] FOR REVIEW: Revised Implementation
>     Final Report/Motion/Slides
>
>     Dear GNSO Review Working Group members,
>
>     Per the action items below, please see the revised Implementation
>     Final Report and Motion in redlined and clean versions for your
>     review.  Please see also the draft slides for the presentation to
>     the GNSO Council on 16 August.
>
>     Please provide any feedback not later than*_1800 UTC on Monday, 30
>     July_*.  The goal is to provide the final versions for Rafik
>     Dammak to send to the GNSO Council*_by COB Monday, 30 July_*.
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Julie
>
>     Julie Hedlund, Policy Director
>
>     **
>
>     *Action Items and Notes GNSO Review Working Group Meeting on
>     Thursday, 26 July 2018 at 13:00 UTC*
>
>     *Action Items:*
>
>     Action Item 1: Add text to timeline in Status Summary to reflect
>     the fact that the Council still needs to provide approval
>
>     Action Item 2: On page 6, second paragraph, change the date of the
>     Board approval of the recommendations to June 2016 instead of June
>     2017.
>
>     Action Item 3: Staff will fix formatting on the top of page of the
>     report.
>
>     Action Item 4: Staff will produce a slide outlining decisions for
>     the Council to make regarding next steps for this group.
>
>     Action Item 5: In the draft motion, staff will update Resolved 4
>     with "The GNSO Council shall decide to disband the WG after the
>     Final Report has been approved by the ICANN Board."
>
>     *Notes:*
>
>     1. Review agenda/SOIs: No updates
>
>     2. Discussion: GNSO2 Review Implementation Final Report:
>
>     -- Wolf-Ulrich provided some edits to the report.
>
>     -- New elements of the report have been added since the update.
>
>     -- Much of the text of the report is the same.
>
>     -- The recommendations on diversity were deemed to be implemented
>     by consensus, they now show as having been implemented in the report.
>
>     -- Executive Summary - the last sentence has been updated to
>     reflect that all recommendations have been deemed to be
>     implemented by consensus.
>
>     -- The Status Summary has been updated to reflect the work completed.
>
>     -- May be worth mentioning in the timeline the caveat that the
>     Council still needs to provide approval.
>
>     -- Timeline diagram has been updated to reflect update regarding
>     diversity recommendations.
>
>     -- Background has been updated with additional background from the
>     Implementation Plan.
>
>     -- Implementation Details: Charter on recommendations relating to
>     diversity are now reflected in this section.
>
>     -- No additions suggested from the group.
>
>     3. GNSO Council Motion for adoption of the GNSO2 Review
>     Implementation Final Report:
>
>     -- There is time before the motion deadline of 06 August before
>     the August GNSO Council meeting.
>
>     -- Wolf-Ulrich provided feedback about the resolved clauses and
>     raised a question about when the WG would be disbanded.
>
>     -- Staff response: the WG will not likely disband until the OEC
>     and the Board accept the final report. This would allow the WG to
>     address any final questions for the OEC.
>
>     -- The resolved clauses do not specifically state that the WG will
>     be disbanded. Can the text remain as it is, or is any additional
>     text required?
>
>     -- No additional text is required, but there should be clarity
>     about when the group is disbanded. At that point in time, the
>     Council can officially provide notice that the group is disbanded.
>     This point should be covered when the Council discusses the motion.
>
>     -- Agreement that OEC approval should trigger disbanding the group.
>
>     From the chat:
>
>     Wolf-Ulrich Knoben: Maybe an additional Res 5: The GNSO Council
>     shall decide to disband the WG after the Final Report has been
>     approved by the ICANN Board.???
>
>     -- Staff will circulate the motion and Rafik will send the motion
>     to Council by 30 July.
>
>     -- This WG was also chartered to replace the SCI, so delivering
>     the report is not the only task for the WG. The task of replacing
>     the SCI still exists and is included in the Charter.
>
>     -- The other item in the motion is to do a new call for volunteers
>     for that group, but this may be premature. If this group is not
>     being disbanded until OEC consideration of the report, it may be
>     appropriate to delete the clause about the call for volunteers.
>
>     -- Instead of tweaking the motion, perhaps it is helpful to send a
>     note to Council with issues that might be discussed by the Council
>     in considering the motion.
>
>     From the chat:
>
>     Wolf-Ulrich Knoben: Charter: The GNSO Review Working Group will
>     also be responsible for considering any new requests1 by theGNSO
>     Council concerning issues related to the GNSO Council processes
>     and procedures and to Working Group guidelines that have been
>     identified either by the GNSO Council, or a group charteredby the
>     GNSO Council, as needing discussion. However, the first priority
>     of the Working Group will be the development of an implementation
>     plan and the subsequent implementation so any such1 For items that
>     are submitted for review 'on request', the GNSO Review WG expects
>     to receive detailed input from the group affected by the
>     process/operational change concerned. See request template.~ 2
>     ~requests should be reviewed to determine urgency and/or linkage
>     with the GNSO review recommendations to determine the appropriate
>     timing for dealing with such requests.
>
>     -- This charter is only for the current WG and the current task.
>
>     -- This implies that the charter is going to be fully revised as
>     many of the current provisions are not relevant for future work.
>
>     -- If you do a general call for volunteers for future work without
>     identifying specific tasks or needs, you may not be able to get
>     volunteers.
>
>     -- Are there expected items for this group in the near future? If
>     not, it may be better to wait and then do a call for volunteers
>     when the need arises.
>
>     -- Question: By call for volunteers, would this be an open call or
>     a request for SG/Cs to reconfirm members?
>
>     -- It would be a call for SG/Cs to either reconfirm or put forward
>     new candidates and alternates.
>
>     -- It may make sense to hold off on a call for volunteers. The PDP
>     3.0 discussion may result in proposed changes to WG guidelines
>     section 3.7. There might be some work coming in the next couple of
>     months, at which point a call for volunteers may be appropriate.
>
>     -- Agreement that the charter should be revised, but it may not
>     need to be revised to consider any proposed changes to GNSO
>     Operating Procedures and WG Guidelines.
>
>     -- Should the WG take on the task of proposing revisions to the
>     charter/make a recommendation about the path forward or should it
>     be left to Council to determine next steps?
>
>     -- The report should be considered separate from consideration of
>     additional items. Therefore, replace existing resolved 4 with "The
>     GNSO Council shall decide to disband the WG after the Final Report
>     has been approved by the ICANN Board."
>
>     -- The person introducing the motion should present the options
>     for next steps to the Council, including the option of having a
>     new call for volunteers.
>
>     -- Staff could provide a slide covering these points to share with
>     Could along with the motion and the report for Council to
>     consider. The slide will include options for next steps for this WG.
>
>     4. Review Assessment re: Long Term Options paper to adjust
>     timelines of reviews. Questions:
>
>     a. How much time should there be between reviews? (The Options
>     paper suggests that the next one will start no later than June
>     2021); and
>
>     b. What if, anything, could be done to make the process more
>     efficient and effective?
>
>     -- The GNSO Council is preparing comments regarding timeline of
>     reviews and options to adjust timelines.
>
>     -- Donna Austin is leading the effort of drafting comments. She is
>     interested in any feedback from this group based on its experience
>     with the GNSO Review.
>
>     -- The section on organizations reviews talks about this WG.
>
>     -- Are there are efficiency improvements that can be derived from
>     the experience of this WG.
>
>     -- The next GNSO review is scheduled to begin in 2021 per the Bylaws.
>
>     From the chat:
>
>     Wolf-Ulrich Knoben: I thought the next GNSO review is going to
>     start 2019, 5 years after the last one.
>
>     Julie Hedlund: @Wolf-Ulrich: That's a good point.  I'll check that
>     with Donna.
>
>     -- Noting that there was a considerable amount of time taken by
>     some of the interim steps, might there be an opportunity for the
>     evaluator to work concurrently with the Working Party to improve
>     efficiency.
>
>     -- One of the issues of working in parallel is that there have
>     been problems with the work of the independent examiner in some
>     reviews.
>
>     -- The four year, 8 month cycle derived from our experience
>     indicates that there are possibilities to discuss, perhaps
>     timelines could be shortened. Perhaps the implementation could be
>     undertaken by staff with some checkpoints where the results can be
>     discussed by Council.
>
>     From the chat:
>
>     Rafik Dammak: there is time to be allowed to see how
>     implementation work and that should be factored in the timeline
>
>     Rafik Dammak: @Wolf some recommendations concerns SG/C directly,
>     staff cannot make implementation plan on that area
>
>     Wolf-Ulrich Knoben: @Rafik: Agreed. So it could be distinguished
>     between different types of work; more staff related vs more
>     community related
>
>     Pascal Bekono: Concerning the question “What if, anything, could
>     be done to make the process more efficient and effective?”. I
>     would like to know if there are mechanisms which have been used in
>     the past, so a similar efficient approach could be implemented
>
>     Kris Seeburn: i think points to be noted and have in hindsight and
>     we see how things move..
>
>     -- Is it possible to use ICANN meetings to have concentrated
>     strategic discussions to save time on the reviews?
>
>     -- These could be discussed further on the GNSO level.
>
>     -- A lot of time was spent in the beginning reorganizing and
>     sorting the recommendations. Some of that work could be done by
>     the independent examiner or by Staff.
>
>     -- A lot of the work of this group has been
>     organizational/administrative. There may be a way to leverage
>     volunteer time more efficiently, the process could be streamlined,
>     by putting more of this work on the consultant of staff.
>
>     -- Even if we have an independent examiner or consultant do the
>     work, we may find that the work is not in sync with what is
>     happening in the GNSO or the current situation. So we need the
>     community involvement.
>
>     -- It is helpful to examine if the Working Party is the right vehicle.
>
>     -- Examining resource management is useful, but the impact of this
>     work is important and the community needs to be closely and
>     directly involved.
>
>     5. AOB:  Next meeting will be scheduled as needed.
>
>     <GNSO Review Working Group Implementation Final Report 30 July
>     2018 FINAL.pdf><GNSO2 Review Implementation Final Report 26 July
>     2018-redline.docx><Motion – Adoption of GNSO Review Working Group
>     Implementation Final Report DRAFT 26 July 2018.docx><Motion –
>     Adoption of GNSO Review Working Group Implementation Final Report
>     DRAFT 26 July 2018-redline.docx><GNSO2 Review Implementation Final
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