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--></style></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Dear GNSO Review Working Group members,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Per this action item from the notes below:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Overarching Questions</span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>: The Working Group requested that staff should collect and track questions raised by the Working Group that may either relate to several GNSO review recommendations, to the GNSO Operating Procedures, or to GNSO processes in general.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Please see the Google Document at: <a href="https://docs.google.com/a/icann.org/document/d/1Kzr1r4cBVpl5J3R7NnWtxQ5r_CAhHgajP4wJQ1WtSfE/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/a/icann.org/document/d/1Kzr1r4cBVpl5J3R7NnWtxQ5r_CAhHgajP4wJQ1WtSfE/edit?usp=sharing</a>. The link allows you to comment on the document and staff can respond with changes or additions. The question raised today by Lori Schulman has been included.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Julie<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Julie Hedlund, Policy Director<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:Calibri;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-family:Calibri;color:black'><gnso-review-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 12:20 PM<br><b>To: </b>"gnso-review-wg@icann.org" <gnso-review-wg@icann.org><br><b>Subject: </b>[Gnso-review-wg] Actions/Discussion Notes for GNSO Review WG Meeting on 11 May<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Dear GNSO Review Working Group members,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Please see below the action items and discussion notes captured by staff from the meeting on 11 May. <i>These high-level notes are designed to help WG members navigate through the content of the call and are not meant to be a substitute for the recording or transcript, which are posted on the wiki at: <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/GRWG/2017-05-11+GNSO+Review+WG">https://community.icann.org/display/GRWG/2017-05-11+GNSO+Review+WG</a>.</i></span> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>The next call will be in two weeks on Thursday, 25 May at 1200 UTC. A meeting notice has been sent separately.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Julie</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Julie Hedlund, Policy Director</span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Action Items/Discussion Notes 11 May</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Action Items: </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Recommendation 16</span></u><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>: Staff will 1) revise the charter to make sure that there is no relevant language/reference from the strategic plan that may be missing; 2) make noted editorial changes and check links; 3) append the PIA framework from the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Initial Report Template for reference; 4) send the final revised charter to the Working Group for a Consensus Call for two weeks.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Recommendation 18</span></u><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>: Staff is creating a standalone charter for consideration and further discussion by the Working Group.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Recommendation 33</span></u><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>: 1) Representatives on this WG to have their Stakeholder Groups and Constituencies answer the questionnaire, which also asks about informal practices that encourage diversity. Deadline is 01 June. This charter will be revisited following receipt of the Stakeholder Group and Constituency responses to the Work Stream 2 Diversity Sub Team questionnaire, due on 01 June. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>2) Staff also will contact support staff for the SGs and Cs to make sure that all procedures have been compiled.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Recommendations 24/25</span></u><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>: Staff will create a charter for consideration on the next Working Group Call on 25 May at 1200 UTC.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Overarching Questions</span></u><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>: The Working Group requested that staff should collect and track questions raised by the Working Group that may either relate to several GNSO review recommendations, to the GNSO Operating Procedures, or to GNSO processes in general.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Discussion Notes: </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>1. Discussion of Recommendation 16:</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>-- Goal: Strategic plan -- seems incomplete; check it.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>-- Separated from recommendation #18 to be considered in a standalone charter.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>-- WG to determine to what extent the DMPM recommendations fulfil the requirements of this recommendation</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>-- Staff evaluation is that this recommendation has indeed been covered by the recommendations of the GNSO DMPM WG final report (specifically recommendations 3, 6 and 7, which have contributed to the creation of a new GNSO WG charter template available via link in the GNSO WG Guidelines).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>-- Should we start to create our metrics to put to this list? Maybe it is valuable to have a discussion here -- whether these are the ones that could be valuable for the impact analysis?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>-- ICANN staff: if metrics/data available are found to be practically unhelpful in terms of a PIA, they are always subject to critical appraisal. Additionally, and also as a result of the DMPM WG's final report and recommendations, there is a mechanism for GNSO WGs to request data/metrics that may be helpful to them in achieving their charter objectives. This is true for data both internal and/or external to ICANN.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>-- Up to the WG to discuss the PIA and the related metric that should be used for that. It is the WG that is guiding this and creating the metrics that should be used.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>-- Reference to the strawman -- are we expected to provide the guidelines for the working group to develop metrics? Depending on the context of the background of WG are there metrics applicable to every WG?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>-- There are points in the charter and suggestions for metrics -- general metrics can be subdivided.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>-- How can we as a volunteer community ask the right questions? Where is the expertise to help guide us?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>-- May be too early to address this question, but may come out of further work of this WG -- don't forget that there are maybe questions that have an impact on the results of all of this.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>-- This issue could be consider as an overarching question by the WG. Suggestion to keep these questions as for further work for this WG.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>From the chat:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Berry Cobb: I'd just add that DMPM's attempt was more of a cultural change and to develop a generic framework. They did not want to be to prescriptive as each issue the GNSO deals with is different.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Lori Schulman: I feel like we need a highly expert "metrics czar"</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Lori Schulman: It adds to my comment but doesn't really address it</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Lori Schulman: Understand Berry's point as each WG is independent but I think we can get so in the weeds that we may not know how to ask the right questions</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Berry Cobb: @Lori as a WG formulates it's recommendations, the metrics should also be defined as a part of the draft report. The public comments and other input can help to guide the WG as to whether they selected the right ones.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Lori Schulman: Agree with Rafik about more and more tasks</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Amr Elsadr: Apologies for the bad audio. I was trying to say that, in response to Lori's concern, if metrics/data available are found to be practically unhelpful in terms of a PIA, they are always subject to critical appraisal. Additionally, and also as a result of the DMPM WG's final report and recommendations, there is a mechanism for GNSO WGs to request data/metrics that may be helpful to them in achieving their charter objectives. This is true for data both internal and/or external to ICANN.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Berry Cobb: +1 Amr</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>renata aquino: +1</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Marika Konings: @Lori - how can that be addressed here? </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Julie Hedlund: @Lori: This may be out of scope of this recommendation implementation, but may be addressed separately by this Working Group.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Berry Cobb: That's the world of forecasting and it is still an imperfect science.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Lori Schulman: I understand Marika's and Julie's concerns perhaps we can highlight this as an ancillary issue</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Marika Konings: @Berry - do we have a kind of FAQ on the DMPM recommendations? It may be helpful to have something like that to remind WG members of their obligations in this regard?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Lori Schulman: Can we at least suggest to staff a running list of questions including the issues we discussed today?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Berry Cobb: As noted in this charter, refer to this page and review the "Working Group Charter" and Initial Working Group Report" links they contain DOCX files that contain the metrics framework. https://gnso.icann.org/en/council/procedures</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>2. Discussion of Recommendation 33:</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>-- This recommendation may or may not require changes to the GNSO Operating Procedures and/or GNSO SG/C charters/bylaws</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>-- Staff performed a preliminary review of GNSO SG/C procedures for selecting GNSO Councilors.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>-- WS2 working on the first draft of the report [on diversity] and starting on recommendation, but issued questionnaire to SO/ACs asking about their diversity and current practices and procedures, also SGs and Cs. We can share that here.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>-- Suggestion that the WG could wait until we have the responses from the SGs and Cs.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>-- Get more guidance concerning the cultural diversity -- any agreed paper? Other constituencies may have the same problem to get a solid basis for getting answers to these questions.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>From the chat:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Pascal Bekono: Maybe Rafik who is help us </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Pascal Bekono: Rafik is a rapporteur in ccwg</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>renata aquino: +1 Rafik on sharing here the results</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri'>Amr Elsadr: Note, from Section 11.3 of the ICANN Bylaws: Stakeholder Groups should, in their charters, ensure their representation on the GNSO Council is as diverse as possible and practicable, including considerations of geography, GNSO Constituency, sector, ability and gender.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>