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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link="#000000" vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='color:black'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='color:black'>Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email. The MP3, Adobe Connect recording and Adobe Connect chat below for the </span>Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Data<span style='color:black'> call held </span>Wednesday, 18 October<span style='color:black'> 2017at </span>17<span style='color:black'>:00 UTC. Attendance of the call is posted on agenda wiki page: </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/fZREB">https://community.icann.org/x/fZREB</a><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='line-height:15.6pt'><b><span style='color:black'>MP3:</span></b> <a href="https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-18oct17-en.mp3">https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-18oct17-en.mp3</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=MsoHyperlink><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Adobe Connect recording: </span></b></span><span style='color:black'> </span><a href="https://participate.icann.org/p1ck9gxntzv/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=e7a3e0ad59e75812eb19f72c46929374e3ff7948a26ef4dfdf6de2363e5902f4"><b><u><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'>https://participate.icann.org/p1ck9gxntzv/</span></u></b></a><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='line-height:15.6pt'><span style='color:black'>The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:</span> <a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar"><u><span style='color:black'>https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar</span></u></a><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='color:black'>** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='color:black'>Mailing list archives: </span><a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-data/"><u><span style='color:black'>http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-data/</span></u></a><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Main w<span style='color:black'>iki page</span> for the working group<span style='color:black'>: </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/hY1EB"><u><span style='color:black'>https://community.icann.org/x/hY1EB</span></u></a><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='color:black'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='color:black'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Terri <span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><u><span style='color:black'>Adobe Connect chat transcript for </span>18 October<span style='color:black'> 2017:</span></u></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Data on Wednesday, 18 October at 17:00 UTC for 90 minute duration<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:agenda wiki page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_fZREB&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6HEA6Qs8bCn1cbzeUAHSGgJn9BLBYGfayjQ3zp1vGso&s=GpYeFynHuNV9kWoU0NtOVWAdAgKFgZljjw8kkcSB51E&e"><u><span style='color:black'>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_fZREB&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6HEA6Qs8bCn1cbzeUAHSGgJn9BLBYGfayjQ3zp1vGso&s=GpYeFynHuNV9kWoU0NtOVWAdAgKFgZljjw8kkcSB51E&e</span></u></a>=<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kathy Kleiman:Great, tx Terri!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:Hi folks.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Hello All<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kathy Kleiman:Terri, we may want to delay by our usual two minutes to allow more people to join.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:thank you Kathy<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Paul Tattersfield:Hi everyone<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cyntia King:Hello beautiful people!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Philip Corwin:hello all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> claudio:greetings!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Griffin Barnett:I have an SOI update, which you can view here: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_gnsosoi_Griffin-2BBarnett-2BSOI&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6HEA6Qs8bCn1cbzeUAHSGgJn9BLBYGfayjQ3zp1vGso&s=80KhOJa5buiMfJ7gXjQZTejJqMhx3iWCnlA2BW075Ag&e"><u><span style='color:black'>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_gnsosoi_Griffin-2BBarnett-2BSOI&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6HEA6Qs8bCn1cbzeUAHSGgJn9BLBYGfayjQ3zp1vGso&s=80KhOJa5buiMfJ7gXjQZTejJqMhx3iWCnlA2BW075Ag&e</span></u></a>=<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> David McAuley:I am now on adobe as well<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Phil Marano:I owe an SOI update, and will make it now, then send a link to the list.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> J. Scott:i am here<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:if assistance is needed logging into your GNSO SOI - send an email to <a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org"><u><span style='color:black'>gnso-secs@icann.org</span></u></a> for assistance<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jon Nevett (Donuts):Congrats Griffin and Phil!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Griffin Barnett:Thanks Jon<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> claudio:Is there value in also meeting with the Sub-Pro WG leadership, since our charters are interrelated?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Do we expect URS reps during the meeting?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):3 providers already<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:I am not sure how many attendees will actually have epxeriences with the URS (other than perhaps contracted parties implementing it)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Philip Corwin:@Maixim--by URS reps do you mean from the three providers?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@Philip, yes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:Are there 3 providers of the URS?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_urs-2D2014-2D01-2D09-2Den&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6HEA6Qs8bCn1cbzeUAHSGgJn9BLBYGfayjQ3zp1vGso&s=ggjo0vLMQrB79T-XCpAb4s2367K1KX20pLcEMBfE8Rc&e=<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):the first is the most popular<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):but all three are fully qualified<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Philip Corwin:Yes--NAF, ADNDRC, and a provider in Italy name of which escapes me at moment -- but NAF has handled about 90%<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> claudio:can also consider inviting WIPO (even though they aren't a current provider)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:3rd is MFSD<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@Jeff, at the moment, yes, three (ADNDRC, MFSD, FORUM)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__newgtlds.icann.org_en_applicants_urs&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6HEA6Qs8bCn1cbzeUAHSGgJn9BLBYGfayjQ3zp1vGso&s=WC_Ikju691j9YNB-9IFyK4RpxPX_TT39a4N7RyPQxMY&e=<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):MFSD srl, Italy<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:2 of the 3 URS providers have reps who are members of this Working Group.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> claudio:thanks, Kathy!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:The first one has 30 cases or so (Asian Dispute Resolution Centre)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Phil Marano:Here is a link to my updated SOI: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_gnsosoi_Phillip-2BVincent-2BMarano-2BSOI&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6HEA6Qs8bCn1cbzeUAHSGgJn9BLBYGfayjQ3zp1vGso&s=_XRhq0ycVmM_UMGh9jSPadgS2l-V1qJpaCt6plORtco&e"><u><span style='color:black'>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_gnsosoi_Phillip-2BVincent-2BMarano-2BSOI&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6HEA6Qs8bCn1cbzeUAHSGgJn9BLBYGfayjQ3zp1vGso&s=_XRhq0ycVmM_UMGh9jSPadgS2l-V1qJpaCt6plORtco&e</span></u></a>= <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Berry Cobb:ADNDRC 31 ADR Forum 709 MFSD 12<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Berry Cobb:as of June 2017<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:The second one (MFSD) has 10 cases? <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__urs.mfsd.it_urs-2Ddisputes&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6HEA6Qs8bCn1cbzeUAHSGgJn9BLBYGfayjQ3zp1vGso&s=OVV_CVIMtA7zs9aNZyuI3fLku-S8pev9IZM04_SqDdU&e"><u><span style='color:black'>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__urs.mfsd.it_urs-2Ddisputes&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6HEA6Qs8bCn1cbzeUAHSGgJn9BLBYGfayjQ3zp1vGso&s=OVV_CVIMtA7zs9aNZyuI3fLku-S8pev9IZM04_SqDdU&e</span></u></a>=<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:Thanks Berry<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:14, Jeff.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:What is the link to the NAF decisions?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.adrforum.com_SearchDecisions&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6HEA6Qs8bCn1cbzeUAHSGgJn9BLBYGfayjQ3zp1vGso&s=HFNZ9kqMAJj9yCQbspF6D3xkiL_FKNvcdqjk6nbJDxs&e= --- select URS as the Ruleset<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Philip Corwin:To clarify, are the times noted in item 1 of the Notes for ICANN 60 meetings local time in Abu Dhabi or UTC?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Paul Tattersfield:Are the GNSO leadership currently generally pushing all working groups to be more timely? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:766 cases there, as of now.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Berry Cobb:@Phil - Local time to AD.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> claudio:one URS case had over 400 domains suspended: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.circleid.com_posts_20161223-5Fheres-5Fthe-5Flargest-5Furs-5Fcomplaint-5Fever-5Ffiled_&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6HEA6Qs8bCn1cbzeUAHSGgJn9BLBYGfayjQ3zp1vGso&s=mjXnXJRhqLMxoe99yVGUdhle3k1PF6sk17EI2QU4YFE&e"><u><span style='color:black'>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.circleid.com_posts_20161223-5Fheres-5Fthe-5Flargest-5Furs-5Fcomplaint-5Fever-5Ffiled_&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6HEA6Qs8bCn1cbzeUAHSGgJn9BLBYGfayjQ3zp1vGso&s=mjXnXJRhqLMxoe99yVGUdhle3k1PF6sk17EI2QU4YFE&e</span></u></a>=<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:Thanks George. Not too user friendly<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Philip Corwin:Thx Berry<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):not many people know that there could be more than 1 domain per URS case<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:next meeting: Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Data Friday, 20 October at 16:00 UTC for 60 minute duration.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:So 7666 cases right, not names<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:@Jeff: if you use UDRPSearch.com, and search for "URS" as the text, it'll capture the URS cases (along with some false positives)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:766 not 76666<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:Right.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Berry Cobb:The Monday session will provide these types of details similar to how we review the Sunrise data at last week's meeting.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Michael R Graham:SubTeam -- Although I do want actively participate, because of work pressures and the fact I will not be attending the Abu Dhabi meeting, I cannot volunteer to help chair.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Michael R Graham:@Mary: Who are the members of the team again?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ariel Liang:Members of the Sub Team: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_fY1EB&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6HEA6Qs8bCn1cbzeUAHSGgJn9BLBYGfayjQ3zp1vGso&s=PYgokmd5u7O093INT-yo6kkYVt5zN0WjfjezfLnRYBs&e"><u><span style='color:black'>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_fY1EB&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6HEA6Qs8bCn1cbzeUAHSGgJn9BLBYGfayjQ3zp1vGso&s=PYgokmd5u7O093INT-yo6kkYVt5zN0WjfjezfLnRYBs&e</span></u></a>=<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Berry Cobb:Kurt Pritz 2 Kiran Malanchandruvil 3 Kristine Dorrain 4 Lori Schulman 5 Michael Graham 6 Rebecca Tushnet7 Susan Payne <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> George Kirikos:Bye folks (just came for the first part of the call). Have a great day.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cyntia King:Staff is capable - let's do it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:Technically ICANN staff should not be chairing (even as interim)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):flip the coin method?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:everyone can scroll themselves<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:Document is unsync'ed<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:yep<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I see the document <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Paul McGrady:Straw Horse was formally adopted by 100% of the community in JoBurg. :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:Thanks, Paul - I remember now!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:SOme still use Straw Bunny<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):desiging the RFP with the particular provider does not look very transparent <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@Maxim, that's not what I was saying, apologies for not being clear.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:I was just saying that if people have suggestions for likely providers, we can make them aware of the RFP.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Susan Payne:Maxim, I don't think the RFP would be defined with the provider - the survey would be<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@Mary, I understand that, I hoped for discussion with set of providers and not limit to the only one<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman: am confused....what happened to the original questions we did?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@Jeff, the Charter questions are in Attachment 1<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> claudio:I don't think i can see the document for some reason<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@Claudio, try logging out and in again<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:Not the charter questions, the questions submitted to the Council?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> claudio:ok, thxs!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@Jeff, can you clarify? The document is what was submitted to the Council (including Attachments 1 & 2).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ariel Liang:@Claudio, you can also access the data request document online directly here: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_rpm-2Dsunrise-2Dtrademark-2Dclaims-2D07sep17-2Den.pdf&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6HEA6Qs8bCn1cbzeUAHSGgJn9BLBYGfayjQ3zp1vGso&s=K251j_PKD0zo679Udc81yCwCXvgjkzGfwZAZvupVlAE&e"><u><span style='color:black'>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_rpm-2Dsunrise-2Dtrademark-2Dclaims-2D07sep17-2Den.pdf&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=6HEA6Qs8bCn1cbzeUAHSGgJn9BLBYGfayjQ3zp1vGso&s=K251j_PKD0zo679Udc81yCwCXvgjkzGfwZAZvupVlAE&e</span></u></a>= <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@Kristine, that is exactly what the Council had in mind, I believe.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> claudio:that worked, thanks Mary<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:So the "Purpose and Scope" comes from the previous attachments?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@Jeff, if you mean the description of this item on the agenda, then, yes - based on the Council's discussion and directions.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Susan Payne:sounds good<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kiran Malancharuvil:I printed it out too Michael! :) <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@Jeff, I stand corrected - you're probably referring to Attachment 2 headings. Yes, that is right - based on the Charter questions.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Q14 needs to contain recent clarifications from Nielsen, including breakdown of costs<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jeff Neuman:I agree with Michael....this is too difficult with lots of references<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Good point, Michael, I see now that the questions themselves, in Attachment 1 aren't actually sorted in Attachment 2.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I support actually sorting the Questions in Attachment 1 by recipient.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:Thanks, Michael and Kristine - staff can add that third column as requested. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> claudio:agree on need to sort<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Willing to give it a go while we await a chart. We don't need to lose time.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:Keep 'em coming Susan :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:+1 to the actual question column<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cyntia King:+ Susan<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:What Susan is suggesting is basically what the staff suggestion of a "straw [insert thing of choice]" was - it will really be useful, at the end of this Sub Team exercise, to have a starting set of questions for the professional to work with.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Susan Payne:ah thanks Mary - and apologies, I missed the straw bit!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Susan Payne:isn't that what we'r4e doing Kathy?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Yes, that's what we're doing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Susan Payne:if we don't give guidance to the survey providers what we get back risks being not as relevant as possible and so costing more/being a waste of money<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cyntia King:From experience, professional pollsters requst clients to provide lots of solid context. In this way questions generate the most meaningful responses.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@Cyntia, yes and thanks - that is what we are hoping the Sub Team can provide.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:yes, some questions are a little squishy.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I think the most important bit is to make the questions to be clear enough so non-members of this group can understand those.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Paul Tattersfield:+1 Maxim<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cyntia King:+1 Maxim<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Michael R Graham:@JScott -- Agree totally. Thanks for clarifying what I was trying to say.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:OK, thanks J Scott<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cyntia King:Pollster will want context - they won't need (or even want) us to write out the Qs ourselves.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):+1 @J Scott , I think the people who can properly translate those questions to human language are members of our PDP WG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cyntia King:I must 'duck out'for about 15 mins. Will return afterward.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Q 8 is better to work with Computer Science students & Law stundents (programming knowledge and knwoledge of intellectual property law )<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Berry Cobb:and GDD, and Compliance, and existing RPM vendors like IBM/Deloitte where we need a data refresh (not just Berry).. ;-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):going to IBM with request with Q8, part 1 will double the budget<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I reffer to page 9 of the shared document<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> claudio:that was helpful mary<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Berry Cobb:@Maxim - The arrangement between IBM,Deloitte/ICANN allow for that and thus far we do not forsee additional costs unless there is something extraordinary that the WG seeks.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Steve Levy:Sorry folks, need to jump off. Thanks for letting me sit in.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Berry Cobb:@Maxim, but you are right, in that specific ask could be extraordinary. We need to perform additional due diligence and requirements.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Michael R Graham:@Mary and Subteam -- I agree we focus on 1-6. Staff to create column 3 and Subteam members to review Qs and whether they require clarification for Survey Org and/or draft Column 4 suggested/possible questions tailored to survey target.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@Berry, it is a programming idea, quite outside of the current TMCH design and I am sure that it will be seen as a separate item with "additional development costs", when all you need is a bunch of CS students<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@Michael, yes, Column 4 (when done) will be what the vendor will be given as guidance (along, of course, with consultation, calls etc.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> claudio:@maxim, you may be right, but no harm in asking IBM to confirm , right?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@claudio., the most important thing will be to remember that it is going to be "IBM costs" , and might not be relevant to others :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:Got it, J Scott<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Susan Payne:I'm happy with that approach<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Yes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:We will have the updated table ready for the Sub Team call this Friday. The task division can then be discussed on the call.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Can I get a clarification on the time of the call on Friday? The last email I have says 1400, but Mary mentioned 1600 earlier.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I ask because I think I have a conflict at 1600 this week.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Philip Corwin:Just one pre-departure<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Berry Cobb:@Kristine - I have 16UTC on Friday<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:1600 UTC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:OK, I clearly missed something.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I will see what I can do.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Susan Payne:yes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kiran Malancharuvil:I'm okay with this way forward <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:Will do, J Scott. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cyntia King:Go Team!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:That's exactly what we were going to do, Michael :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:Great minds etc. :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> David McAuley:great minds indeed<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):bye all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:thanks everyone.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Michael R Graham:@Mary -- Twins from different mothers -- at least in thinking.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Philip Corwin:Excellent work running this call, J Scott<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> claudio:thanks!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:thanks for stepping up J Scott!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> David McAuley:good bye all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Susan Payne:excellent, thanks J Scott<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Ariel Liang:thanks everyone<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoPlainText> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>