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<p style="font-family: -webkit-standard; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="font-family: -webkit-standard; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email. The MP3, Adobe Connect recording and Adobe Connect chat below for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team
for Data call held Friday, 17 November 2017 at 17:00 UTC. Attendance of the call is posted on agenda wiki page: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/HQZyB" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">https://community.icann.org/x/HQZyB</a></p>
<p style="font-family: -webkit-standard; line-height: 15.6pt;"><b>MP3:</b> <a href="https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-17nov17-en.mp3[mailer.samanage.com]
" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-17nov17-en.mp3[mailer.samanage.com]</a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;"><span class="MsoHyperlink"><b>Adobe Connect recording: </b></span><a href="https://participate.icann.org/p2u35yxfwfg/" style="font-size: 14px;">https://participate.icann.org/p2u35yxfwfg/</a></p>
<p style="font-family: -webkit-standard; line-height: 15.6pt;">The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group-2Dactivities_calendar&d=DwMFEA&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=iYSx0T8HMwui9UYO_A3YHnGxyLJILRs9EapseUSk11k&s=jA4reRQjwPQy2hDuyPo2JNQInxGqRFbADWwIrXa3sx0&e=" style="color: purple;"><u><span style="color: black;">https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar</span></u>[gnso.icann.org]</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="font-family: -webkit-standard; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="font-family: -webkit-standard; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Mailing list archives: <a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-data/" style="color: purple;"><u><span style="color: black;">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-data/</span></u></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;">Main wiki page for the working group: <o:p></o:p><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_eI1EB&d=DwMFEA&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=iYSx0T8HMwui9UYO_A3YHnGxyLJILRs9EapseUSk11k&s=BQ1zJPJaXoPLw3Bkh2Ymo6OooVYBphuxU1nDl6zEnf0&e=" style="font-size: 14px;">https://community.icann.org/x/eI1EB[community.icann.org]</a></p>
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<p style="font-family: -webkit-standard; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="font-family: -webkit-standard; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
Michelle <br>
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<p style="font-family: -webkit-standard; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><b><u>Adobe Connect chat transcript for 17 November 2017:</u></b></p>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">Michelle DeSmyter:Dear all, welcome to the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Data call on Friday, 17 November 2017 at 17:00 UTC.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Agenda wiki page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_HQZyB&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=5VEQzinPUNPwG4Wpd0sOiq75V9Sw1WP9kghR8Nu2ruk&s=K-PMeABSIiHxjeR4djiQWxVNikI8oCchefU9vrEOK_4&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_HQZyB&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=5VEQzinPUNPwG4Wpd0sOiq75V9Sw1WP9kghR8Nu2ruk&s=K-PMeABSIiHxjeR4djiQWxVNikI8oCchefU9vrEOK_4&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott Evans:Good morning, Good Afternoon, Good Evening all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:Hi. Having issues with the phone dial-in</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:Hi all, yes there apparently are some issues with the phone dial in - Michelle is looking into it</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:I have the operator watching for parties dialing in.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott Evans:I am on but hearing nothing. Now I hear Mary</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott Evans:I got hung up on the first time I dialed in</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:@J. Scott: That has been happening to others too.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:I don't have any sound - but this may be my system settings?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@Susan, are you on phone bridge or AC audio?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:AC</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:I have now tried 4 times to no aval. Recording cuts out and then no one picks up.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott Evans:We can hear you</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:I have sound now - my error</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@Susan, could you hear Michelle?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:OK cool</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael R Graham:On Adobe -- but no microphone</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kurt Pritz:Hi Sorry I am late</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:waiting for a dial out to my number</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:hi, sorry I'm late</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael R Graham:I'll try to call in.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott Evans:Is Kurt coming?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott Evans:I see him now. Apologies.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:I think we have apologies from Kathy -- I think she was traveling.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kurt Pritz:I am here - not mic'd up yet</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Michael Graham is on audio</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Phil will be on momentarily</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:Lori has been sick this week so I suspect she won't join us</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:Finally got through on audio</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael R Graham:On phone line now.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Julie Hedlund:Lori just joined</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Ariel Liang:You may access the google doc here: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_10qENwqvozS-2DTZfJiVOx5MG71YIsqeX95WkPqhA64ayE_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=5VEQzinPUNPwG4Wpd0sOiq75V9Sw1WP9kghR8Nu2ruk&s=HSlw66K8kdfPAfUdnzFrbTHy10ql0jgIOTGcDgnonh4&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_10qENwqvozS-2DTZfJiVOx5MG71YIsqeX95WkPqhA64ayE_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=5VEQzinPUNPwG4Wpd0sOiq75V9Sw1WP9kghR8Nu2ruk&s=HSlw66K8kdfPAfUdnzFrbTHy10ql0jgIOTGcDgnonh4&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman 2:Hi, I am back. Such as it is. My first ICANN call of the week.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Ariel Liang:Doc is up in the AC, unsynced </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:Welcome Lori, hope you feel better!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:welcome Lori</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman 2:Hi, I am on the mend.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman 2:Haven't done a thing since INTA meeting last week. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:works for me. i would do s 2</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman 2:It's been slow.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kurt Pritz:thanks - great idea</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott Evans:Sounds like a plan. Let's get started.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman 2:Agree with Kristine's suggestion.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman 2:Agree as to tone of registry questions.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I'm making real-time edits to the Google doc, FYI</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:Thanks Kristine</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael R Graham:Phil -- That's the second row -- we're in first</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:Sorry for leaping ahead -- must have had too much caffeine ;-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman 2:I like that "RPM champion."</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:I like that idea from Kurt -- although suspect we won't get</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:If it will help (or not), one suggestion we have seen from the WG is to consider whether to recommend reverting to the original suggestion that Sunrise and Claims be alternatives rather than requirements
for both.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott Evans:I agree Kristine.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott Evans:So we could ask about premium pricing and what, if any, steps were taken to avoid an overlap with Sunrise Registrations.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:Good idea J Scott. Maybe also - did you operate a formal (or informal) premium pricing challenge process for brand owners?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman 2:Thats the issue.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman 2:Our approach</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman 2:This is super hard.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman 2:Is there anyone from ICANN metrics team that could advise us?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@Lori, we don't have a metrics team :( But I have my hand up for a comment</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I know we're going to have the survey provider actually formulate them. these are just guiding questions.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman 2:Ok. I thought Karen Lentz was part of a metrics team. Is she still at ICANN?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:Karen took a year off for grad studies but she is back with us as of mid-October (yay!) She is on the GDD team, responsible for research. She and her taem have been super helpful to the policy staff about
this</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman 2:That's what I mean. Can we use someone from GDD to help us?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman 2:before we engage outside of ICANN</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman 2:we only have 50K or maybe a little more. need to allocate resources very wisely.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman 2:The WG can provide anecdotes. It frequently does.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Perhaps we use the anecdotal questions to drive our drafting of data-driven questions....</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@Lori, we are happy to ask esp as they have been very helpful on the staff side. Would you want us to ask Karen and her team if one or more of them can join our calls?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Much like J Scott did with the premium pricing question...</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman 2:I think that is a good idea Mary.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@Lori, we will take it as an action item for staff</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael R Graham:@Lori -- WG will supply anecdotal evidence -- but that's usually second hand. At least, survey anecdotes may be first hand. ;-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:haha - was just typing "maybe we do both types of Q"</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott Evans:+1 agree Kristine</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:@Susan. great minds....</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:+100 Lori</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:really good feedback Lori</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:FYI staff is doing our best to move ahead with the procurement process internally so we can have the RFP out and hopefully a provider in place in good time.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman 2:Love the first question</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott Evans:Mary has her hand up.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Thanks J Scott</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott Evans:I think breaking them into Anecdotal and Data Driven will be a big help.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman 2:I need to jump off to another call. I will connect with Mary and catch up with what I missed and make up my assignment.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:Ah, ok, thanks Susan - apologies if I mixed things up!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael R Graham:Sorry -- I have to jump for another call. Let's all review/provide comments to the Google doc. Thanks!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:We will check, thank you</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@KRistine, should we send a Doodle poll for Agenda Item 3?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:yes </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:and assume we won't meet next Friday with Thanksgiving?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott Evans:I think we should agree to skip next Friday due to the US Thanksgiving Holiday.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kurt Pritz:we can move the call up to Thursday</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:OK thanks Kristine!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:Yes, no meeting next week</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:bye</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:Thanks Kristine for chairing and thanks everyone!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kurt Pritz:Good job Kristine</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Ariel Liang:Thanks all </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott Evans:Thanks Kristine</div>
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