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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose">While I’m not an active participant in the Practitioner Group (busy with Providers) these reports suggest that we might want to recommend that URS decisions in the future list the Complainant’s attorney, as well
as the Respondent’s in non-default cases. That is standard practice in UDRP decisions and would not impose any real burden on the Examiner.<o:p></o:p></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Philip S. Corwin<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Policy Counsel<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">VeriSign, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span lang="EN" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">12061 Bluemont Way<br>
Reston, VA 20190<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">703-948-4648/Direct<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">571-342-7489/Cell<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><i><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey<o:p></o:p></span></i></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Gnso-rpm-practitioner [mailto:gnso-rpm-practitioner-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Petter Rindforth<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 27, 2018 4:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> SAustin@vlplawgroup.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> gnso-rpm-practitioner@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [Gnso-rpm-practitioner] Help fill out the practitioners spreadsheet / 700 - 749 + comments on practitioners<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Hi All, </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I have now done mine – well, at least 700 – 749.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Based both on those cases, as well as the one I have handled as panellist, I have the following notes:</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I agree that it is difficult to find the name of the individual attorney. The fact is that even as panellist, we not always has the specific individual names, only the company as such.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">However, here are some examples:</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">No 1:</span></b></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><br>
<span class="size">FA1801001767251</span><br>
<span class="size">Complainant: ATOMIC Austria GmbH</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">E-Mail: </span>
</span><a href="mailto:atomic@iptrack-infringement.com"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">atomic@iptrack-infringement.com</span></span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Authorized Complainant Representative:
<b>Joanna Kalnik</b> (in-house counsel) </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">For Bloomberg L.P. Ltd, Mr William M Ried represented them as their Senior Counsel / Global Head of Trademark & copyrights. Mr Ried has however moved to Carver Scientific, Inc from May 2017.
Unfortunately, I do not have his new contact details.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">No 3:</span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">One interesting complainant is
</span></span><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Deutsche Lufthansa AG, as they always provide evidence of use by screenshots from the website connected to the referred trademark, instead of the Trademark Clearinghouse.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Their representative is Dr. Hajo Rauschhofer, of
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><u><span style="font-size:10.0pt">As to yoyo.email:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Yes, this company has indeed been involved in a large number of URS disputes.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">However, what may be interesting, is to reach out to their legal representatives that have assisted this company in some cases, namely:</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">No 4:</span></b></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><br>
<span class="size">Smith and Wells Solicitors</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">E-Mail:
</span></span><span class="font"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:mks@smithandwells.co.uk"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext">mks@smithandwells.co.uk</span></span></a></span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">MALCOLM CHAPPLE</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">New Square Chambers</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">London</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">WC2 3SW</span></span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:malcolm.chapple@newsquarechambers.co.uk"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:windowtext">malcolm.chapple@newsquarechambers.co.uk</span></span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">All the best,</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Petter</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="font"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">Petter Rindforth, LL M </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="font"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">Fenix Legal KB </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="font"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">Stureplan 4c, 4tr </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="font"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">114 35 Stockholm </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="font"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">Fax: +46(0)8-4631010 </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="font"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">Direct phone: +46(0)702-369360 </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="font"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">E-mail:
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<p class="MsoNormal">27 februari 2018 00:25:08 +01:00, skrev Scott Austin <<a href="mailto:SAustin@vlplawgroup.com">SAustin@vlplawgroup.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"><span class="colour">Kathy:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"><span class="colour">I complete my portion of your list assignment (rows 1270-1320) and inserted counsel for complainant based on review of the cases listed, but most do not name the specific practitioner,
only the firm, and none listed a counsel for respondent, unless the placekeepers listed in the case file as
</span><span class="size"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial Unicode MS",serif;background:white">«cFirstName» «cMiddle» «cLastName»
</span></b></span><span class="colour">for respondent’s representative were more than placekeepers and signaled characters that did not transliterate. Also agree with Georges N. that there are many more practitioners than those listed, as well as the URS panelists
themselves who if they are so inclined may have some general observations to share on procedural or other challenges faced given the short amount of time and resources available to decide each expedited summary proceeding.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"><span class="colour"><b>From:</b> Gnso-rpm-practitioner [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-practitioner-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-practitioner-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kathy Kleiman</span><br>
<span class="colour"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 25, 2018 10:24 AM</span><br>
<span class="colour"><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-practitioner@icann.org">
gnso-rpm-practitioner@icann.org</a></span><br>
<span class="colour"><b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-rpm-practitioner] Help fill out the practitioners spreadsheet</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="background:white">Hi Jason and All,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="background:white">There seems to be a misunderstanding, and that's OK. I thought that Staff would be uploading the Practitioners spreadsheet that I started to allow everyone to help continue the work. I did not see that below, so I have uploaded the
spreadsheet and opened it up. <b><i>Could you help fill in the Practitioners? I did the first 100 or so, but I am willing to bet that the Practitioners at the start of the URS may be only a small set of those who have been practicing in URS proceedings more
recently.</i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="background:white">Could you help with filling in the spreadsheet? A half hour or so of everyone's time before this Wednesday's meeting (members and staff) should give us some great insight!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">To avoid overlaps, I've put in names below. No obligation -- just a space in the spreadsheet should you want to. Link below. Some guidance for quick & easy searches at the top of the spreadsheet. You should have
full edit privileges!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b>Link: <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15VBgK2XRQRWkKONiJiLhSHpBYwf0nSGbvckeJrECeBU/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15VBgK2XRQRWkKONiJiLhSHpBYwf0nSGbvckeJrECeBU/edit?usp=sharing</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">(Based on spreadsheet line numbers - far left)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">200-250 - Collin Kurre<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">300-250 - Georges Nahitchevansky<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">400-450 - Gerald Levine<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">500-550 - Jason Schaeffer<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">600-650 - Jay Chapman<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">700-750 - Petter Rindforth<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">800-1269 - Kathy Kleiman (it's mostly one case)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">1270- 1320 - Scott Austin<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">1370- 1420 - Zhou Heng<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">1470- 1520 - Julie Hedlund<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">1570- 1620 Michelle DeSmyte<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">Many thanks!!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">Best, Kathy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">On 2/22/2018 9:17 AM, Julie Hedlund wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">Please note that the links to the two Google docs have been updated to facilitate editing. We apologize for any inconvenience caused by the previous links.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"><b>Action Items (with updated links):</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">1. Staff will prepare a Google spreadsheet of the list of practitioners –
<i>done</i>, see: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1czGq3Y5Z1bVx1ys_MnfLkFE1S-_Dwc3kRzfrTprlNFE/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1czGq3Y5Z1bVx1ys_MnfLkFE1S-_Dwc3kRzfrTprlNFE/edit?usp=sharing</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">2. Staff will prepare a Google doc with the questions and arrange them in buckets –
<i>done</i>, see: <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xtoDMVGgvLw6TTDrXarVg2gj2xgR6pm_R6FilPu5qgc/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xtoDMVGgvLw6TTDrXarVg2gj2xgR6pm_R6FilPu5qgc/edit?usp=sharing</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">Julie<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"><span class="size"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From:
</span></b></span><span class="size"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Gnso-rpm-practitioner
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-practitioner-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><gnso-rpm-practitioner-bounces@icann.org></a> on behalf of Julie Hedlund
<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank"><julie.hedlund@icann.org></a></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
<span class="size"><b>Date: </b>Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 6:06 PM</span><br>
<span class="size"><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-practitioner@icann.org" target="_blank">"gnso-rpm-practitioner@icann.org"</a>
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-practitioner@icann.org" target="_blank"><gnso-rpm-practitioner@icann.org></a></span><br>
<span class="size"><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Gnso-rpm-practitioner] Action & Notes: RPM Sub Team for URS Practitioners call on Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:00 UTC</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">Per the actions below please see the links to the requested Google documents. These documents are open to editing and Sub Team members are encouraged to suggest edits directly in the text. For example,
staff welcomes additional suggestions for practitioners, as well as contacts and contact information. With respect to the questions, staff welcomes edits to the questions and topic areas, as well as additional suggested questions,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"><b>Action Items:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">1. Staff will prepare a Google spreadsheet of the list of practitioners –
<i>done</i>, see: <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xtoDMVGgvLw6TTDrXarVg2gj2xgR6pm_R6FilPu5qgc/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xtoDMVGgvLw6TTDrXarVg2gj2xgR6pm_R6FilPu5qgc/edit?usp=sharing</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">2. Staff will prepare a Google doc with the questions and arrange them in buckets –
<i>done</i>, see: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1czGq3Y5Z1bVx1ys_MnfLkFE1S-_Dwc3kRzfrTprlNFE/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1czGq3Y5Z1bVx1ys_MnfLkFE1S-_Dwc3kRzfrTprlNFE/edit?usp=sharing</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">Thank you very much for your assistance and please let us know if you have any questions.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">Julie<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"><span class="size"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From:
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<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-practitioner-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><gnso-rpm-practitioner-bounces@icann.org></a> on behalf of Julie Hedlund
<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank"><julie.hedlund@icann.org></a></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
<span class="size"><b>Date: </b>Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 2:59 PM</span><br>
<span class="size"><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-practitioner@icann.org" target="_blank">"gnso-rpm-practitioner@icann.org"</a>
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-practitioner@icann.org" target="_blank"><gnso-rpm-practitioner@icann.org></a></span><br>
<span class="size"><b>Subject: </b>[Gnso-rpm-practitioner] Action & Notes: RPM Sub Team for URS Practitioners call on Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:00 UTC</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">Below are the action items and notes staff captured from the RPM Sub Team for URS Practitioners meeting today (21 February 2018). The notes from the call are posted to the Sub Team wiki space, together
with the call recording, transcript and Adobe Connect chat and attendance records.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">Note also that the next call will be on <b>Friday, 28 February at 1800 UTC.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">Julie<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">Julie Hedlund, Policy Director<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"><b>Action Items:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">1. Staff will prepare a Google spreadsheet of the list of practitioners.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">2. Staff will prepare a Google doc with the questions and arrange them in buckets.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"><b>Notes:</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">1. Overview of scope of work and selection of Sub Team chair(s) (if desired): Jason Schaeffer volunteered to Chair.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">Scope of Work<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- Look to the expertise of this group on identifying practitioners.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- Brainstorm on scope and nature of concerns to help drive the questions.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">2. Discussion:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">a) Identify a list of experienced URS practitioners:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- Looking to identify a set of experienced URS practitioners.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- Wondering if we should include on the agenda how we do the outreach to these practitioners? What do we ask them?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- Start filling in a spreadsheet of practitioners.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- Start with who we know now and add to it, from URS cases.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- Think it is important to think on the practitioner side -- there are a lot of people who practice in this space, but others who have decided not to do URS, but use UDRP instead. Get insight from
people who practice in online enforcement and find out why they don't use the URS.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">List of Practitioners: David Taylor, John Berryhill, Richard Biagi... URS attorneys,
<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://yoyo.email&c=E,1,xumqx9T7CfJevQtRK9S8ljtq033qYpF5dg5UIGnX54nQqJD8ttZxVImxgKRfb5pNKaxv4XDvhMnM4zp04yIwIa8vFms7V9DaS4VTqqymUSaztfT8&typo=1" target="_blank">
yoyo.email</a> of Dunstable, International, GB.; Doug Eisenberg, David Bernstein, Flip Petillon, Zak Muscovitch, CSC Digital Brand Services of Wilmington, DE (representative to TM owners), Mark Monitor, Stobbs Julius E Stobbs of Cambridge (does a lot of the
Virgin work), David E. Weslow of Washington, DC, China Trademark Association to help identify practitioners.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">b) Develop a list of questions directed at these practitioners:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">Organization: Seems that we will have procedural issues, substantive issues and practical issues (filing mechanics, word limitations, etc>) Should we break up our work into different buckets? The
third bucket could be tactics and approaches or something similar, to cover questions to both URS and non-URS practitioners, eg those that chose alternate methods — UDRP, litigation, etc<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">Questions:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- Do they use TMCH or a printout from active web sites. Why they use one for evidence of use over the other one, for establishing the claim.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- .SMD file -- is it a good basis for proof of use of the mark? If not, what would they recommend?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- Threshold question: whether or not a practitioner is choosing to use the URS and if not why are they bypassing the URS?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- If they are bringing a claim are they happy with the process? Is the process clear? Any procedural problems?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- Notice: Are practitioners finding that the notice is getting through to the registrant and which one is getting through? Hard copy, email, etc.?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- How do the practitioners feel about the ability to refile after 6 months, appeal process? The extended mechanisms.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- Questions on the burden of proof and the remedies available.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- The appeal process -- what do they think about it? Its use by domain name holders? What can we do to make it better? May be very few cases that have appealed, is it being used?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- Fees: Ask about whether the fee is too high or too low? Whether or not the fee structure works for the URS and does it factor into a brand protector whether or not to file.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- Response fee for multiple filing.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- What do they think about the suspension for the duration of the registration? Whether to have an extended time of the suspension. The suspension may also apply to the decision whether or not to
use the URS as a protection mechanism.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- The way that the brand owner and practitioners -- how do they know about the URS? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- How do registrants know about the responses to the URS and the affirmative defenses? Question about URS awareness generally and how it is disseminated to brand owners and others, and the effectiveness
of that.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- How do the practitioners feel about the expertise of the examiners and the fairness of the decisions. Whether or not the practitioners are satisfied with the examiners and the fairness of their
decisions. Also gets to the issue of training of examiners.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- Whether or not there should be something analogous for the URS that gives more certainty to the structure. Should we have a analogous WIPO's reviews.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- Apart from looking at remedies and effectiveness -- look at the burden of proof, is it clear, does it need to be modified? Bad faith, and/or discussion.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- Should there be more guidance regarding what meets the "clear and convincing" standard? This might get into training for providers, for the larger group.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- Other thought regards WHOIS issues (inaccuracy of such) and how that impacts -- particularly with the GPDR<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">3. Next steps/next meeting:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- Next steps: Staff to produce Google docs and circulate.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="onecomwebmail-msonormal" style="background:white">-- Next meeting: 28 February at 1800 UTC.<o:p></o:p></p>
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