[Gnso-rpm-protection] Action Items - and request for further Sub Team input - following 1 September call

Sat Sep 2 22:56:50 UTC 2017

Dear all,

Please find below the action items from the Sub Team call held yesterday, as well as an attached updated document where the requested changes have been made. In addition, we have highlighted the action items in yellow as comments for your easy reference and continuing discussion.

ACTION ITEMS:

  1.  Claudio di Gangi to send proposed revised language for Question 5 to the mailing list for Sub Team discussion – DONE (see Claudio’s suggested text below)

  1.  Sub Team to discuss on the mailing list before the next call:

  *   Claudio’s suggested language for Question 5 (see below).
  *   Possible rephrasing of Question 9 (now renumbered as Question 7) to make it less loaded, especially sub-points (c) and (d). Please see attached document for the current text.
  *   Whether to delete, but archive at the end of the document, Question 9 (now Question 7), possibly along with original Question 8 (now deleted). Please see the highlighted comments in the attached document, including the alternative suggestions for handling the original Question 8 that were proposed by Sub Team members on the Friday call.

  1.  Staff to delete original Question 7 but archive it at the end of the document – DONE.

In particular, Sub Team members who were not able to be on the call on Friday are encouraged to put their views on the above action items to the list. Thank you.

Cheers
Mary

From: icannlists <icannlists at winston.com>
Date: Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 09:13
To: claudio di gangi <ipcdigangi at gmail.com>, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org>, "gnso-rpm-protection at icann.org" <gnso-rpm-protection at icann.org>
Subject: [Ext] RE: [Gnso-rpm-protection] Proposed Agenda for Additional Marketplace RPMs call

Thank you Claudio!

All, can we please have some reaction to Claudio’s comments on this list, with the hope of having this squared away on the list before our next call?

Best,
Paul

From: gnso-rpm-protection-bounces at icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-protection-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of claudio di gangi
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 4:42 PM
To: Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org>; gnso-rpm-protection at icann.org
Subject: Re: [Gnso-rpm-protection] Proposed Agenda for Additional Marketplace RPMs call

As promised on the call, here are my comments on question # 5, "How does use of the Protected Marks Lists (e.g. blocking services) affect the utilization of other RPMs?"

1. Are we asking this question for a) data collection or b) functional purposes?

If just to understand things better from a functional level, I can envision an answer along the approximate lines of:

Use of blocking services for a particular string prevents the registration of the corresponding domain name by the trademark owner or by a prospective 3rd party registrant (unless there is an "DPML override"), across all TLDs operated by the registry providing the service. As a result, use of blocking services has the effect of reducing the utilization rate of the mandatory RPMs, such as Sunrise or Claims, for strings that remain in a blocked status.

2. If for data collection purposes, should we tweak this to ask, "How, and to what extent, does use of the Protected Marks List affect the utilization of other RPMs", in order to quantify the impact of these services?

To provide an example, if we discovered that 1,000 marks are collectively blocked through these services in 200 TLDs, that will add meaning and context to the overall number of Sunrise registrations.

In theory, 1,000 blocked strings in 300 TLDs means up to 300,000 domains that may have otherwise been registered during Sunrise, do not get registered in Sunrise because those strings are in a blocked status.

I understand it may be difficult to obtain this data in practice, but we may want to just get that on the record to ensure the final report is comprehensive and covers all the bases.

Sorry for the long note, and please let me know of any questions.

Hope everyone in the States has a great Holiday weekend!

Best, Claudio
On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 9:37 AM Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org<mailto:mary.wong at icann.org>> wrote:
Dear Sub Team members,

Following consultation with Paul, our chair, here is the proposed agenda for the Sub Team call coming up in a few hours:

  1.  Discuss language proposed by Greg Shatan for Question 6:
“Which Additional Marketplace RPMs were submitted for RSEP approval, and which Additional Marketplace RPMs were submitted to ICANN for some other form of approval?”

  1.  Agree on whether to move former Question 8 (now renumbered as Question 7 following incorporation of the previous Question 7 into a new bullet point under Question 3) out of the main text and into an archived portion of the same document, under the heading “Deleted as outside the remit of the Sub Team but archived for Working Group information”
  2.  Discuss remaining questions
  3.  [If time permits] Agree on moving Question 5 (identified previously as primary overarching issue) to the top of the questions list, and finalize ordering of questions
  4.  Next steps – completion of work and submission of final list of questions to the full Working Group

For your convenient reference during the call, I attach an updated version of the Questions document – all the older comments for which no further edits or suggestions were received have been removed, leaving only the most recent unresolved comments and notes from the call last week for discussion.

Thanks and cheers
Mary

From: <gnso-rpm-protection-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-protection-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Amr Elsadr <amr.elsadr at icann.org<mailto:amr.elsadr at icann.org>>
Date: Monday, August 28, 2017 at 18:13
To: "gnso-rpm-protection at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-protection at icann.org>" <gnso-rpm-protection at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-protection at icann.org>>
Subject: [Gnso-rpm-protection] Action Items from Additional Marketplace RPMs Sub Team Call - 25 August 2017

Dear Sub Team Members,

Below are the action items from the Sub Team call on 25 August. The action items, notes, meeting document, recordings and transcripts have been posted on the meeting’s wiki page here: https://community.icann.org/x/NRohB[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_NRohB&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=brxr1Aj5Fti3PGP6NdU6dSzzo8NFrTQZsqSFG8IcUUk&s=ucwIWvftmesUhAzlbBSt0SLrLpxvPDkTq6iOS_4xWvE&e=>

Please note the language suggested by Greg Shatan during the Sub Team call (in bold + italics below) as a possible replacement for the text of Question 6, which was marked for proposed deletion. The action item on this question, as indicated below, was for the Sub Team members to consider this language as a potential replacement of the existing language of Question 6.

Additionally, in follow-up of action item 2 below, Question 7 has been incorporated as a third bullet under Question 3 in the updated document attached to this email. The remaining Questions, 8 through 11, have been renumbered to Questions 7 through 10.

Thanks.

Amr

Action Items:

  1.  Staff to circulate Greg Shatan’s suggested reformulation of Question 6 to the mailing list for Sub Team consideration (Which Additional Marketplace RPMs were submitted for RSEP approval, and which Additional Marketplace RPMs were submitted to ICANN for some other form of approval?)
  2.  Staff to incorporate Question 7 as an additional bullet point under Question 3 for review by the Sub Team
  3.  Sub Team to discuss whether Question 8 may be deleted from the main text but placed at the end of the Sub Team document, under the heading “Deleted as outside the remit of the group, but archived for WG information”

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