[Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Mp3, Attendance, AC recording & AC Chat Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations
Terri Agnew
terri.agnew at icann.org
Fri Apr 14 16:07:21 UTC 2017
Dear All,
Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email. The MP3,
Adobe Connect recording and Adobe Connect chat below for the Review of all
Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise
Registrations call held on Friday, 14 April 2017 at 14:00 UTC. Attendance of
the call is posted on agenda wiki page:
<https://community.icann.org/x/dM7RAw> https://community.icann.org/x/dM7RAw
MP3: https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-14apr17-en.mp3
Adobe Connect recording:
<https://participate.icann.org/p6xjpehyfc7/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=436763efcaabf56f
d0227f108d44d3c705d81ed2dd669eac5ee8f7b29a7d3189>
https://participate.icann.org/p6xjpehyfc7/
The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master
Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar>
http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar
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Thank you.
Kind regards,
Terri Agnew
Adobe Connect chat transcript for 14 April 2017:
Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations on Friday,
14 April 2017 at 14:00 UTC for 60 minute duration
Terri Agnew:wiki agenda page:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_d
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Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Hello all
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I think we might wait for 5 minutes more to have
better attendance
Lori Schulman:Hi Terri
Lori Schulman:Is this doc with consolidated list on th e wiki yet?
Mary Wong:Hi Lori - it was circulated to the Working Group mailing list.
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):2 is fine :)
Lori Schulman:Thanks. I will check my old mail. The volume is starting
to crush me.
Lori Schulman:Is it on the wiki for quick retrieval?
Susan Payne:hi all
Mary Wong:@Lori, if they are not, we will make sure they are. Thanks!
Lori Schulman:Thanks Mary, it's a little easier to navigate the wiki.
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):someone is stomping on the mic
Amr Elsadr:Kiran has sent apologies for this call.
Lori Schulman:I am happy to volunteer
Philip Corwin:Good morning all
Susan Payne:Support Lori
Lori Schulman:Hi Phil
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):+1 for Lori
Mary Wong:Thanks, Lori!
Susan Payne:I'd favour running through them yes
J. Scott Evans:I cannot see the entire list of questions in Adobe Connect.
I only see about 3/4 of a page
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@Amr, is it possible to make middle part of the
screen wider? (by making left pad and right pad smaller?
J. Scott Evans:i fixed it
Philip Corwin:Yes, hour call on a weekly basis for 2-3 weeks to complete
task.
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):+1 hour weekly (3 weeks) looks fine
Mary Wong:The full WG has to review the proposed list of refined
questions, and decide whether the Sub teams continue on.
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@Amr thanks
J. Scott Evans:yes
Mary Wong:The Work Plan will need to be updated with the various Sub
Teams' suggestions - staff will monitor that and will let you all know if we
see any potential problems.
Amr Elsadr:@Maxim: You should have control of the document on the screen,
so can scroll up/down and zoom in/out.
Martin Silva Valent:I think this is a relevant question, don't see a
consolidation chance here.
Martin Silva Valent:We should try to explain further Premium Names to the
WG, or add the need for a intro on that.
Susan Payne:I think the issue for premuim names is around setting of
pricing which effectively circumvents the sunrise and how do you address
that as a brand owner if you have no route of oibjection
Griffin Barnett:+1 Susan
Martin Silva Valent:+1 Susan, if they use pricing to bomb the sunrise
system, on the other hand, are going to get into pricing?
Martin Silva Valent:a lot of trademarks are also generic names, is a
blurry lines sometines, so premium names often fall in that blurry line
J. Scott Evans:agree
J. Scott Evans:on consolidation
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Brand owners are not the only party with "special
rights" in accordance to Sunrise, GEO TLDs need to deliver domains for
public services/streets/monuments e.t.c. to the Municipal Entity of the
City... for example
Griffin Barnett:@MAxim - that's what ALPs/QLPs are for, no?
J. Scott Evans:maxim is really hard to hear. Can he also make his points
in the chat.
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):ok
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):will type
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):poor connectivity
Martin Silva Valent:+1 Maxim
J. Scott Evans:correct
J. Scott Evans:Also correct
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I think we might consolidate into three bunches :
related to Reserved lists, related to TMs and TMCH during sunrise, and about
processes during sunrise and not relevant to first and secodn bunch
Terri Agnew:hearing typing again, please remember to mute
Susan Payne:yep, bunch by theme
J. Scott Evans:agree
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):a Note: Due to quite poor design of the ALP (the only
GEO who tried to use ALP . MADRID is still not launched), GEO TLDs had to
use Reserved lists to deliver names to Mayor's offices of cities/local
governments (and for a big city, 100 names is nothing). as it was underlined
in one of GAC Communiques - .POLICE needs to be delivered to the Public
Safety Agency in case of cities
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):adding to that: my thinking is , if Claims are
available, the release of the Reserved name is not as bad, as when it is not
available (so the TM owner is notified)
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):NOTE: I reached to geoTLDs and requested their
comments on QLP, ALP (those instruments are highly relevant to them and
quite important), and hope to have their text by the next call
Mary Wong:Do we have a common understanding (definition) of what is a
premium name?
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):one of the historical reasons for lots of well known
names to be stuck in reserved lists - Name Collisions
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I do not think so , premium names is a marketing
term, and definition vary from legal body to legal body
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Agree with that
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Lori, love the idea of a
footnote or note. I just know how long redrafting took.
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I think if we highly regulate "premium names" we
might face swarm of terms like "golden name" , "titanium... diamond ...
e.t.c. and I do not see how to regulate marketing ideas"
Susan Payne:I agree too - redrafting wasn't a terribly effective use of
time last time and ended up being pretty contentious and also tended to veer
into a substantive discussion of the underlying issue
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):one suggestion: to define idea of Premiums - we
might need to analyze how many TLDs used it in their applications
J. Scott Evans:I think the fact we are not having any objections should be
accepted as the right to move forward
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):in financial models (no additional info, just
yes/no)
J. Scott Evans:great idea!!
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):are we against Google docs sheets ?
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):ok - consolidation is fine ( and spreadsheets work
fine for RySG in in situation where we need to add few comments and to
understand who wrote what , andfor what reason)
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):and sending offline copy to the list
Amr Elsadr:Google Docs also allow for comments on text, similar to MS
Word. Question on accessibility is limited to China, if I'm not mistaken.
J. Scott Evans:I would suggest that Lori's consolidated document be the
Google Doc
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Google docs is fine
Susan Payne:+1
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):like 1 sheet with this text we see now and other
sheet with : question: answer: author: comment or something like it
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I meant two TAB in the same Google Sheet
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):where others (not editors , have right only to
comment - so the work of the person who is editor is not spoiled
Mary Wong:LOL Lori :)
J. Scott Evans:It
J. Scott Evans:is Easter. You should wash her feet
Mary Wong:OMG people!!!
Mary Wong:(and I'm Catholic too :))
J. Scott Evans:I want that information.
J. Scott Evans:I think in would inform our next call.
Susan Payne:yes I agree it is useful
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Perfect, thanks, and I'm sorry
I missed that
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I am afraid the time is not good for feedback - lots
of active participants of community are on the leave :(
Mary Wong:@Maxim do you mean the 5 days?
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):weekend and last few days (I asked for info few
days ago and not much in terms of answers, but I hope it will be ok by 18th
apr)
Philip Corwin:I'm not sure it makes sense to research where a Charter
question came from. What's more relevant is the level of interest it merits
within the WG.
Mary Wong:We'll do what we can and you all can let us know if it's useful
J. Scott Evans:Do we want to take the 90-minute time slot next Wednesday
Susan Payne:already on my easter holiday here :) living the dream
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):could we run doodle poll
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):?
Mary Wong:yeah, end-April for both CCT and Budget (among other open
comment periods)
Susan Payne:+1 Lori
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I'm open.
J. Scott Evans:Can your repeat?
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):which timeslot on Wed?
Mary Wong:1600 UTC Weds
J. Scott Evans:+1
Mary Wong:Or 1400 UTC Fri
Griffin Barnett:Agree w Friday
Matt Mlsna:+1 friday
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):16.00 is overlap with RySG call
Mary Wong:We'll confirm via mailing list for Friday, for absent members
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):friday is way better
Mary Wong:OK Lori
Mary Wong:90 minutes or 60?
Griffin Barnett:60
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):same time prefferably, and 60 (90 not sure)
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:60 we're a small group
Matt Mlsna:60
Susan Payne:60. I would have to go on another call at that point anyway
Martin Silva Valent:60 is ok I think
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:If we all do our homework...
Susan Payne:as would you I think Lori :)
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):60 and +30 if we need is fine
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):and more homework if we do not do it in the calss
Mary Wong:Can we say aim for initial comments on the questions by Weds,
and document prepped and circualted by staff before Fri?
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:LOL Maxim
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Great idea Mary
J. Scott Evans:+1
Susan Payne:excellent
J. Scott Evans:ciao
Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:thanks Lori, you're great!
Susan Payne:Thank you Lori!
Philip Corwin:Good work today. happy holidays and have a great weekend
Griffin Barnett:Thanks
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@Mary, could you send us a letter with calendar
event attached? about fri
Martin Silva Valent:bb
Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.
Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):bye all
Mary Wong:@Maxim yes
Lori Schulman:ciao
Mary Wong:Thanks Lori and all!
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