[Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Proposed agenda for Sunrise Sub Team call on 2 June 2017

[Mary Wong]

Dear all,

Based on the email from Lori (below) and following consultation with her, here is the proposed agenda for the next Sunrise Sub Team call on Friday 2 June:


  1.  Kathy and Kristine to report on the scope and outcome of their Friday discussion
  2.  Kathy to highlight changes made to the batching, order and text of the questions listed in the last version of the Sub Team Google Doc and further additions that were proposed in the standalone document circulated on Monday 29 May
  3.  Sub Team to discuss and agree on approach and next steps in relation to the Charter questions
  4.  AOB and agreed Action Items for the next meeting

To assist with the discussions, please find attached the standalone document circulated by Kathy on Monday, updated with Kristine’s edits from Tuesday. The Google Doc reflecting the original Charter questions as well as the proposed refinements last discussed by the Sub Team on 19 May can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w1eAYmIBOZbhHRpN4mCVKgp97ycoadlxvE6Joa9dBE4/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks and cheers
Mary

From: Lori Schulman <lschulman at inta.org>
Date: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 06:01
To: "Dorrain, Kristine" <dorraink at amazon.com>, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org>, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com>, "gnso-rpm-sunrise at icann.org" <gnso-rpm-sunrise at icann.org>
Subject: [Ext] RE: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Sunrise Questions - bringing wide ranging views together.

Dear Christine, Mary and Kathy,

I understand that a lot of work has gone into this draft and I think that  the group should be given the opportunity to consider it as an alternative path to the work that we have done to date.   That said, I am opposed to incorporating into any current charts.  I would like it to be considered as a stand alone proposal.  I have concerns that this was done when most of us where attending the INTA annual meeting and unavailable for calls.  I think it is appropriate to give the subgroup the opportunity to consider whether they want to proceed with the alternative or to continue on the path that we started.

I would ask that Kristine and Kathy be prepared to explain the rationale behind the work and contrast it to what was previously done.  I want to remind the sub group that we were formed with the understanding that this would be a short term project to clarify and put order to currently existing questions and to coordinate them with the overall work plan.  We had discussed bunching questions, eliminating redundancies and identifying what additional information would be needed to properly address the questions.  We also agreed not to change any wording to the original questions but note we where would suggest clarification.  I am concerned that the current proposal may have exceeded that agreement.  However, I don’t want to rush to judgement and feel that all of us need adequate time to consider it and take the temperature of the subgroup before we post it on the wiki or anywhere else.

I don’t see an attachment on the string, if the proposal is ready for consideration, please post it.

Lori

Lori S. Schulman
Senior Director, Internet Policy
International Trademark Association (INTA)
+1-202-704-0408, Skype: lsschulman

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From: gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces at icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Dorrain, Kristine via Gnso-rpm-sunrise
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:15 PM
To: Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org>; Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com>; gnso-rpm-sunrise at icann.org
Subject: Re: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Sunrise Questions - bringing wide ranging views together.

Mary, Kathy and all,

Thanks, Kathy for taking the first crack. I have a bunch of edits in the attached, but I tried to explain them all. In a few cases, I had to hunt through the RA to figure out what the original charter questions were referring to. The second page is more redlined because that's where the examples of "solutions" were. I wanted to call out for the WG that these are NOT subteam-generated examples, but are right in the Charter Questions themselves. I strongly oppose adding our own examples to the charter questions. I also strongly think all pricing questions should be bundled/bunched.

Let me know what you think.

Best,

Kristine


-----Original Message-----
From: gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces at icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wong
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:41 AM
To: Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com><mailto:kathy at kathykleiman.com%3e>; gnso-rpm-sunrise at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Sunrise Questions - bringing wide ranging views together.

Thanks very much for taking this on, Kathy and Kristine, and for the updated list of questions.

NOTE/QUESTION for Kathy, Kristine and Lori – since this new list is a significantly re-ordered and reworded version of the last Google Doc set of questions, I am not sure how it can easily be fitted into the Google Doc. Will it make more sense for the Sub Team to use this document for the Friday call, and for staff to compile the results of that discussion into a new table that compares the final wording and ordering with the original Charter questions?

Thanks and cheers
Mary

On 5/29/17, 20:59, "gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Kathy Kleiman" <gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of kathy at kathykleiman.com><mailto:kathy at kathykleiman.com%3e> wrote:

Hi All,
In lieu of our meeting on Friday, Kristine and I sat down by phone and
worked through the Sunrise questions from a number of different
perspectives. We covered as many of our our almost 2 dozen Sunrise
questions as possible. We tried to keep, in as neutral as way as
possible, the charter questions given to us by Council and the rewritten
questions that bind together overarching concepts.

We found two arcs we would like to suggest for the Sunrise questions:
Arc 1) Trademark Owners and Registrant Issues and Arc 2) Trademark
Owners and Registry Operator Issues. Everything seems to fall fairly
neatly into those two categories. We replaced language that some members
of the subteam objected to as confusing or meaning something else.

I took the pen from there, and Kristine is still reviewing. In the
interest of time, let me circulate these questions to the full subteam.
Thoughts on next steps appreciated. Should we add these to the Wiki?

Best, Kathy


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