[Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Mp3, Attendance, AC recording & AC Chat Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations

Fri May 12 15:47:34 UTC 2017

Dear All,

Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email. The MP3,
Adobe Connect recording and Adobe Connect chat below for the Review of all
Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations on
Friday, 12 May 2017 at 14:00 UTC. Attendance of the call is posted on agenda
wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/Ow3fAw

MP3:   https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-12may17-en.mp3 

Adobe Connect recording:
<https://participate.icann.org/p8nxmqhvv2d/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=029929868fed1ad2
8d0b8d51c4d9985cb1e68d6f0272a40c48270918080ea07a>
https://participate.icann.org/p8nxmqhvv2d/

The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master
Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar

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Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/msrRAw

Thank you.

Kind regards,

Terri

Adobe Connect chat transcript for 12 May 2017:    

  Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms
(RPMs) Sub Team for Sunrise Registrations call on Friday, 12 May 2017 at
14:00 UTC for 60 minute duration

  Terri Agnew:wiki agenda page:
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  Phil Marano::)

  Phil Marano:+1

  Phil Marano:Folks still traveling after the GDD Summit possibly.

  Susan Payne:hi

  Susan Payne:I'm afraid I won't make next 2 week's calls either due to INTA
and travels

  Amr Elsadr:You bet, Lori. Good luck.

  Susan Payne:But we could do over list

  Susan Payne:what are we due to do?

  Philip Corwin:Good day all

  Philip Corwin:We have the magnificent 7 ;-)

  Terri Agnew:@Mary, we heard you for a moment but no longer

  Susan Payne:same examples relevant to 2 were captures here:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_dis
play_RARPMRIAGPWG_Additional-2BDocuments-2Band-2BMaterials-2Bon-2Bthe-2BTM-2
DPDDRP-3Fpreview-3D_61606586_62399692_Collated-2520Examples-2520of-2520Perce
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  Mary Wong:Sorry my audio isn't working

  Kathy:Hi All, Apologies for joining late.

  Mary Wong:@Susan, wasn't Q11 put into the TMCH list?

  Mary Wong:So the question is whether Q11 is even needed here (as several
Sub Team members have noted in past discusions)

  Mary Wong:Maybe park this for now and suggest that the WG look at all
parked questions when they are done with the other questions? 

  Kathy:What question are we on?

  Mary Wong:Q16, for instance, was also noted as being something that's
being discusssed as part of the broader TMCH deliberations. This could
conceivably be parked and returned to.

  Kathy:Agree with Kristine

  Amr Elsadr:@Kathy: Questions 13 and 22, or updated questions 11 and 12.

  Susan Payne:exactly Lori

  Kathy:yes

  Mary Wong:SUGGESTION - make a notation where the queston is being covered
in the general or TMCH discussion, and consider refining the question to
make it specific to Sunrise.

  Mary Wong:Then the WG can decide whether to take it up as part of a
Sunrise review, defer it till the end of Sunrise review, or park it until
general TMCH/other relevant discussions have concluded.

  Susan Payne:and of course legally-similar goods can be across different
classes

  Lori Schulman:yes, Susan, thank you.

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Agree, Mary.

  Philip Corwin:To be clear, I was not proposing a particular implementation
approach. I was trying to find out if we all have a common understanding of
what would be required to implement the contemplated restriction.

  Kathy:@Phil: I think you have one good implementation path.

  Kathy:But it may be easier...

  Susan Payne:@ Kathy Yes, it is in scope - although just because we have
been asked to deal with it it does not pre-suppose we will say "yes" to the
Q :)

  Kathy:yes

  Susan Payne:yes

  Philip Corwin:To further clarify, what would be the method of limiting
sunsrise registrations to a mark's goods and services? And would the
generation of claims noticesbe similarly restricted?

  Philip Corwin:what is question?

  Kathy:I don't understand the "parking"

  Kathy:Meaning it becomes part of our WG questions for this area?

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Phil, part one of what you
asked belongs here.  Part 2 is on the claims list of Qs

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Parking in my mind simply
means, we might have already answered it by the time we get here (or have
suffienctly changed things by the time we get there).

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:It's my understanding that
neither sub team is doing substantive work...right?  The entire WG will
answer these Qs.  did I miss something?

  Lori Schulman:Kristine that is my understanding

  Susan Payne:25

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:All excellent questions, Phil

  Amr Elsadr:@Kristine: That is my understanding as well. Perhaps the two
Sub Teams can coordinate their proposals on these questions, as I believe
Phil has suggested?

  Susan Payne:yep all good points Phil

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Including the reluctance of
most Registry Operators to "restrict" their TLDss

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:.HORSE may not want to
"categorize" their TLD

  Susan Payne:This obviously is an interesting debate but can we hold it
over to when we are supposed to talk about it

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Thanks Amr, I agree.

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:+1Susan

  Susan Payne:Yes Lori, I do think this is relevant to prioritisation

  Mary Wong:Is there a particular wording that this group can agree to,
mindful that the general question will be noted as also being covered in the
TMCH discussion?

  Susan Payne:yes

  Kathy:yes

  Lori Schulman:I support Kristine's suggestion

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Yes Phil, I think the WG will
need to answer those Qs.

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:In its entirety.  :)

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:As in, the WG, in its
entirety.  Not our little puddle of 9 people.  :)

  Philip Corwin:We are not a puddle. We are a lake on a diet ;-)

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:LMAO

  Kathy::-)

  Philip Corwin:When will our next call be, or are we wrapped ip? I am
unable to make the next two Fridays due to INTA Annual in Barcelona.

  Lori Schulman:Our next call will be in 3 weeks as I am tied up too

  Amr Elsadr:Before we end the call, I wanted to note that Lori won't be
available for calls over the next two weeks. Can we confirm that we will
still hold calls?

  Lori Schulman:I think that many will be at INTA

  Lori Schulman:but i am happy to cede the chair if others want dial in

  Kathy:Should we skip next week?

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Perhaps if we do good work
this week suggesting data sources via email, we can do the work online?

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I'd hate to lose momentum

  Amr Elsadr:@Kristine: I think that's doable.

  Susan Payne:sounds good.  apologies, I need to jump off for another call

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:What Phil did was a good
example a model

  Kathy:How many people would be on the call next week?

  Philip Corwin:Must leave call

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I'll here, but if you look at
the list on today's call, I might be it.

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Thanks.

  Kathy:Bye All

  Kathy:Safe travels!

 Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Thanks Lori, great job

  Lori Schulman:thank you

  Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.

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