[Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Homework - and language

Susan Payne susan.payne at valideus.com
Wed Jun 12 17:03:23 UTC 2019


Thanks Kathy
I’m not clear what you have in mind in section C. What would the “strong proof of violations” be, bearing in mind that this is a request to unmask a single record and that if you already had the proof that the domain was based on a trademark which did not meet the criteria, then why would you need to request this data from the TMCH?  If this is intended to be referring to some pattern of behaviour, then how would a complainant know this since domain registrant details are going to be masked post-GDPR; and if you are aware of a pattern then, again, don’t you already have the TM data? I am probably misunderstanding - hopefully we can explore this on the call.

Susan Payne
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From: Gnso-rpm-sunrise <gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces at icann.org> On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman
Sent: 12 June 2019 15:31
To: John McElwaine <john.mcelwaine at nelsonmullins.com>; gnso-rpm-sunrise at icann.org
Subject: Re: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Homework - and language


Hi John,

I also include the references to the Applicant Guidebook that we discussed!

Best, Kathy
On 6/12/2019 10:26 AM, John McElwaine wrote:
Kathy,

I appreciate you circulating this.  To be clear, I had suggested removing “similar” from Section A and B and that standing should require an exact match.  I see that this concept was included, thank you.  I have a brief due in a TTAB case today and have not had a chance to review or provide input on Section C.

John



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Subject: Homework - and language

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Hi All,  I would like to share language that John McElwaine and I have worked on for Q6.  It contains some important revisions suggested by John.

Best, Kathy

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The following three criteria should be allowed for submission to the Trademark Clearinghouse of a request for the data of a single, specific mark:

  A. A party associated with a business, organization or individual having the same name to the domain name registered during the Sunrise Period,"

B. An association or organization representing its members or affiliates which include the business, organization or individual with the same name [e.g., CTIA, INTA, etc], or

       C. Someone with strong proof of violations of Sunrise Service rules during Sunrise registrations, including violations of Applicant Guidebook rules and requirements [proof which is shown to the Trademark Clearinghouse].*

The submission shall state the TMCH mark in question, the registered domain name involved, and a good faith reason why the domain name may not have been entitled to registration during the Sunrise Period.

The TMCH will then provide the mark's (or marks') recordals including: country of registration, registration number, registration date, TM owner, description of goods and services, or other basis of the mark(s) being registered in the TMCH, including protected by statute or treaty/country.

 The TMCH will provide this information within a short period of time (e.g., 3 business days) to allow the filer to proceed forward with a Sunrise Challenge if warranted (as this is a tight timeline).

* See e.g, Applicant Guidebook, Appendices to Module 5, Trademark Clearinghouse, 30 May 2011,p.8, Section 6.2, Sunrise service, 6.2.4(iv) “the trademark registration on which the domain name registrant based its Sunrise registration did not issue on or before the effective date of the Registry Agreement and was not applied for on or before ICANN announced the applications received.” [emphasis added]


On 6/7/2019 5:03 PM, Ariel Liang wrote:
Dear Sunrise Sub Team members,

1. Homework
The Sunrise Sub Team is tasked to review the updated Status Check document (see details in “Resource”) by focusing on the draft text for:

  *   Q6
  *   Q7
  *   Q8
  *   Q9
  *   Q10
  *   Q11
  *   Q12
  *   Q5(b)
  *   Preamble Q


2. Proposed Agenda for Next Meeting
Here is a proposed agenda for the meeting on Wednesday, 12 June at 18:00 UTC:

  1.  Review agenda/updates to Statements of Interest (SOIs)
  2.  Review workplan/timeline
  3.  Discuss proposed answers and preliminary recommendations for the remaining agreed charter questions (tackle as many as possible):

  1.  Q6 (finish discussing proposed ideas for preliminary recommendations)
  2.  Q7
  3.  Q8
  4.  Q9
  5.  Q10
  6.  Q11
  7.  Q12
  8.  Preamble Q
  9.  Q5(b)

  1.  AOB

3. Resource
Status Check (as of 07 June 2019): https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138618/%5BSunrise%20Status%20Check%5D%2007%20June%202019.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1559936206955&api=v2<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_102138618_-255BSunrise-2520Status-2520Check-255D-252007-2520June-25202019.pdf-3Fversion-3D1-26modificationDate-3D1559936206955-26api-3Dv2&d=DwMDaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAk&m=ZEEERb_HbFOczNNVXKpoT_e_LJqo1jOKHtTThL-gXKQ&s=ZSaF0Tdc0Zq-yH8KOPPQCNz6arc56FD80kxSdDNf0Qw&e=>
Compared to the 24 May 2019 version, this updated version has the following changes:

  *   Added a new Table 1 that provides a snapshot of the Sub Team’s deliberations on all questions, highlighting “open items” based on staff’s preliminary assessment
  *   In Table 2, included draft text for Preamble Q, Q5(b), Q8, Q9, Q10, Q11, and Q12 based on transcripts, chats, discussion thread comments, and Q8/Q12 google doc
  *   Updated text for Q1, Q2, Q3, Q4, Q5(a), and Q6, incorporating Sub Team’s input provided during meetings on 29 May and 5 June and from discussion threads
  *   Added a new column for proposed question for community input (if any)
  *   Per Sub Team’s suggestion, removed all discussions/debates/deliberations, particularly for questions that the Sub Team has diverging opinions
  *   To facilitate discussions of Q8 and Q12, posted Sub Team members’ proposed questions for community input from the Google Doc
  *   Updated color coding: Grey text – discussions during meetings; green text – excerpts from discussion threads; blue text – excerpts from Q8/Q12 Google Doc; red text – staff notes. All colored text are deliberations, which will NOT be included in the “status check” document when it is finalized
  *   Updated Table 3 that provides a snapshot of Sub Team’s review of individual proposals, based on Co-Chairs’ preliminary assessment

Summary Table (as of 24 May 2019): https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138618/ST%20Copy%20-%20%5BSunrise%20Summary%20Table%5D%20%2824%20May%202019%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1558729628694&api=v2<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_102138618_ST-2520Copy-2520-2D-2520-255BSunrise-2520Summary-2520Table-255D-2520-252824-2520May-25202019-2529.pdf-3Fversion-3D1-26modificationDate-3D1558729628694-26api-3Dv2&d=DwMDaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAk&m=ZEEERb_HbFOczNNVXKpoT_e_LJqo1jOKHtTThL-gXKQ&s=4Ld-sOQaymWaVySjeJJuDo7WkcF1Kf5mCLHaRpPUdfY&e=>

  *   This document is complementary to the Status Check document by providing details on data and additional context.
  *   The current version contains the same proposed answers and preliminary recommendations as those in the Status Check document.
  *   It also includes more details with respect to the Sub Team’s review of individual proposals related to those agreed charter questions.
  *   Staff will continue updating this document to reflect Sub Team’s deliberation on the proposed answers, preliminary recommendations, and individual proposals in relation to the agreed charter questions.

Google Doc for Sunrise Q8/Q12 (created by Kristine D and Maxim A as of 22 May 2019): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y-ld2R-JNL1Ra9KPKpTjLGjaZvjrIFDscsuMMic_OO4/edit?usp=sharing<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1Y-2Dld2R-2DJNL1Ra9KPKpTjLGjaZvjrIFDscsuMMic-5FOO4_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=DwMDaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAk&m=ZEEERb_HbFOczNNVXKpoT_e_LJqo1jOKHtTThL-gXKQ&s=7wJEk0an_Z0BVpCTCiO-0I93Z3Dkduxv4NN5SlzJq_U&e=>  Two Sub Team members created this Google Doc to facilitate the discussion for Q8/Q12 and review of preliminary recommendations and proposed questions for community input.

Individual Proposals:
Relevant to the Agreed Sunrise Charter Questions, multiple individual proposals were submitted. Staff analysis concluded the following Individual Proposals are more relevant to the Agreed Sunrise Charter Questions being reviewed by the Sub Team in the homework assignment:

  *   Proposal #1 (Q5b): https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%231.pdf?api=v2<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_102146375_Proposal-25231.pdf-3Fapi-3Dv2&d=DwMDaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAk&m=ZEEERb_HbFOczNNVXKpoT_e_LJqo1jOKHtTThL-gXKQ&s=Gbxydv5FM52ZjDOSMtDwP9pzIzEHf_GUWfS_J2vfvPw&e=>
  *   Proposal #2 (Q6): https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%232.pdf?api=v2<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_102146375_Proposal-25232.pdf-3Fapi-3Dv2&d=DwMDaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAk&m=ZEEERb_HbFOczNNVXKpoT_e_LJqo1jOKHtTThL-gXKQ&s=ty9FQDXpRnmv8zA0PA1BaN8FNw9ribVh6M2XGMf6ID8&e=>
  *   Proposal #3 (Preamble Q): https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%233.pdf?api=v2<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_102146375_Proposal-25233.pdf-3Fapi-3Dv2&d=DwMDaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAk&m=ZEEERb_HbFOczNNVXKpoT_e_LJqo1jOKHtTThL-gXKQ&s=hlpE7r0JSU-HmkHaNfisiPUa4yHv28jGf8PlEUvw04I&e=>
  *   Proposal #4 (Q6): https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%234.pdf?api=v2<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_102146375_Proposal-25234.pdf-3Fapi-3Dv2&d=DwMDaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAk&m=ZEEERb_HbFOczNNVXKpoT_e_LJqo1jOKHtTThL-gXKQ&s=2yA9s1WV0QMZipoxIvAwbesCiDyGOp8HjIpstmK0fZU&e=>
  *   Proposal #7 (Q5b): https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%237.pdf?api=v2<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_102146375_Proposal-25237.pdf-3Fapi-3Dv2&d=DwMDaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAk&m=ZEEERb_HbFOczNNVXKpoT_e_LJqo1jOKHtTThL-gXKQ&s=_Eek6j-JCghAR2EL9mYScLbXfETlea9L8X4EWQcNKJg&e=>
  *   Proposal #8 (Q5b): https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%238.pdf?api=v2<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_102146375_Proposal-25238.pdf-3Fapi-3Dv2&d=DwMDaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAk&m=ZEEERb_HbFOczNNVXKpoT_e_LJqo1jOKHtTThL-gXKQ&s=0Z07XFcOeGiF5RexV2P7qObUSoEKQlK_zw79EkSzo40&e=>
  *   Proposal #9 (Q1): https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%239.pdf?api=v2<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_102146375_Proposal-25239.pdf-3Fapi-3Dv2&d=DwMDaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAk&m=ZEEERb_HbFOczNNVXKpoT_e_LJqo1jOKHtTThL-gXKQ&s=JtoZ-aXcjWN4LbYJNAp8lcRSspCkIadGGSeZqblopAQ&e=>
  *   Proposals #10 (Q3): https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%2310.pdf?api=v2<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_102146375_Proposal-252310.pdf-3Fapi-3Dv2&d=DwMDaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAk&m=ZEEERb_HbFOczNNVXKpoT_e_LJqo1jOKHtTThL-gXKQ&s=LDn4T2PptWuynZDbzdkGnSbuAI44PSiHmRmJfswX1r8&e=>
  *   Proposal #11 (Q3): https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%2311.pdf?api=v2<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_102146375_Proposal-252311.pdf-3Fapi-3Dv2&d=DwMDaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAk&m=ZEEERb_HbFOczNNVXKpoT_e_LJqo1jOKHtTThL-gXKQ&s=v_WHJQfgUab863Mvzx1xhttXnRzRi8ENu03e4w2mtCI&e=>
  *   Proposal #13 (Q9): https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%2313.pdf?api=v2<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_102146375_Proposal-252313.pdf-3Fapi-3Dv2&d=DwMDaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAk&m=ZEEERb_HbFOczNNVXKpoT_e_LJqo1jOKHtTThL-gXKQ&s=EBm02AB7ZqtuhjJeZHgkipq9MgNAEOOKVXU4uERog5w&e=>

4. Documents Wiki
Access the Documents wiki page and find the opening messages of all discussion threads, all versions of the summary table, and other working documents of the Sub Team: https://community.icann.org/x/_oIWBg<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_-5FoIWBg&d=DwMDaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAk&m=ZEEERb_HbFOczNNVXKpoT_e_LJqo1jOKHtTThL-gXKQ&s=rE0PSzJZBYzSZ9cgziSZ89kS6DTXUrzpZakVA9sP-Xk&e=>

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