[Gnso-rpm-sunrise] [Discussion Thread] Sunrise Q9

[Michael Karanicolas]

Interesting, thanks for sharing. I checked whether Mini made motorcycles
before I sent my proposal in... I didn't think to check whether they made
regular bicycles!

By any chance, were you able to find any examples of the company branching
into the tattoo business as well (http://mini.tattoo)?

I'm not sure if this presents a "nuance" in trademark classes. I don't
think it's much of a revelation that "bikes" can refer to motorcycles or
regular bicycles. All this represents is a product line I was unaware of.
And under my proposal, all Mini would have to do would be to include the
link you provided when they register the domain under sunrise, and that
should be that.

Personally, I don't see how the SDRP challenge process could be retooled to
turn it into something that adequately represents the interests of
potential future registrants without injecting massive amounts of
transparency into the sunrise and TMCH processes... but I would be
interested to hear your thoughts as to how this might work.


On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 12:38 PM BECKHAM, Brian <brian.beckham at wipo.int>
wrote:

> Thanks Ariel,
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> Copying here, my full email to the Sunrise List from earlier today as it
> relates to proposal No. 13:
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> Thanks Julie,
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> Just for fun (as I am aware the example was merely anecdotal), further to
> our hypothesizing last night, indeed, MINI does have a range of folding
> bikes:
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> https://www.bmwblog.com/2018/02/28/new-mini-folding-bike/
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> This does however illustrate in some ways the nuance in trademark classes
> and TLD typology that may escape proposal No. 13 in its current form.
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> As I mentioned on our call, I believe there is a shared willingness to
> address the issue Michael has raised, but via the SDRP challenge process,
> and not via claims exclusions.
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> Brian
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> Brian
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> *From:* Gnso-rpm-sunrise <gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces at icann.org> *On Behalf
> Of *Ariel Liang
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 9, 2019 5:36 PM
> *To:* gnso-rpm-sunrise at icann.org
> *Subject:* [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] [Discussion Thread] Sunrise Q9
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> Dear Sunrise Sub Team members,
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> As announced, this thread is being opened for final mailing list
> discussions related to *Sunrise Agreed Charter Question** 9*, including *Proposal
> #13*.
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> We ask that you review the *Summary Table* *(as of 16 April 2019) *and
> provide any additional input you may have to the “*proposed answers &
> preliminary recommendations*” in relation to the Agreed Charter
> Question, and consider *draft answers *to the following questions
> regarding the individual proposal:
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> a. Should the Sub Team recommend that the full WG consider including this
> Individual Proposal in the Initial Report for the solicitation of public
> comment?
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> b. In light of the Individual Proposal, are any modifications to the
> current “tentative answers & preliminary recommendations” needed?
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> c. Should any additional Sub Team recommendations be made in relation to
> the agreed Sunrise charter question?
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> Unless the Sub Team Co-Chairs determine otherwise, this discussion thread
> will remain open until *23:59 UTC on **22 May 2019*. Comments/input
> provided past the closing date or outside this discussion thread will not
> be taken into account when compiling the final Sub Team member input.
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> *Summary Table (Pages 36-40)*
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> The draft answers, preliminary recommendations, and links to the relevant
> individual proposals are in the latest Summary Table (as of 16 April 2019):
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> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138618/%5BSunrise%20Summary%20Table%5D%20%2816%20April%202019%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1555515624235&api=v2.
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> *Agreed Sunrise Charter Question **9** (Page** 36)*
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> The Sub Team just discussed Agreed Charter Question 9 on 08 May 2019,
> hence the proposed answers are “TBD”. Based on the Sub Team’s discussions,
> the transcript and notes, staff will provide update.
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> * Q**9 In light of the evidence gathered above, should the scope of
> Sunrise Registrations be limited to the categories of goods and services
> for which?  *
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> *Proposed Answer**: *TBD
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> *Individual Proposal*
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> The Sub Team just discussed the Proposal #13 on 08 May 2019, hence there
> is no draft answer currently on the Summary Table (as of 16 April 2019).
> Based on the Sub Team’s discussions, the transcript and notes, staff will
> provide.
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> Link to the individual proposal is included below.
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> *Proposal #**13*:
> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%2313.pdf?api=v2
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> *Where to Find All Discussion Threads*
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> Access the Documents wiki page and find the opening messages of the all
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> Best Regards,
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> Mary, Julie, Ariel
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