[Gnso-rpm-sunrise] [Ext] RE: Closing Date of Sunrise Discussion Threads- Q5(b)

Wed May 29 00:26:30 UTC 2019

Hi David, Greg and Ariel,

If we don't have the draft text for a question, e.g., Q5(b), how can we 
close it?  We've barely begun to open it...

Best and tx, Kathy

On 5/28/2019 7:00 PM, Ariel Liang wrote:
>
> Hello Kristine,
>
> Thank you for your comments.
>
> Yes, that’s the latest Sunrise status check document we circulated 
> last Friday.
>
> Staff plan to send an updated version of the Status Check document 
> before next week’s call that also includes the draft text for Preamble 
> Q, Q5(b), Q8, Q9, Q10, Q11, and Q12. All Sunrise charter questions 
> have been discussed by the Sub Team.
>
> After the Sub Team has done the first pass of all draft text and the 
> discussion threads are closed, staff will work with Sub Team Co-Chairs 
> to produce another updated version with consideration to all Sub Team 
> input. By then, the Sub Team will still have chance to review / 
> comment on the updated draft and point out any missing information or 
> mischaracterization.
>
> Question for Kristine: Are you suggesting keeping the thread for Q5(b) 
> open longer? Comments on the discussion threads do not necessarily 
> need to respond to staff’s draft text, but we understand the point you 
> raised. Transcript for last week’s call just became available (when 
> Q5(b) was discussed) and we will include the draft text for Q5(b) in 
> the updated status check document asap.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Ariel
>
> *From: *"Dorrain, Kristine" <dorraink at amazon.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 6:09 PM
> *To: *Ariel Liang <ariel.liang at icann.org>, 
> "gnso-rpm-sunrise at icann.org" <gnso-rpm-sunrise at icann.org>
> *Subject: *[Ext] RE: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Closing Date of Sunrise 
> Discussion Threads
>
> Ariel, is this doc current? 
> https://community.icann.org/display/RARPMRIAGPWG/Documents%2C+Drafts%2C+Responses%2C+RPM+WG+Sub+Team+for+Sunrise+Data+Review?preview=/102138618/111380133/ST%20Copy%20-%20%5BSunrise%20Status%20Check%5D%2024%20May%202019.pdf
>
> All: I apologize I’ve just been treading water due to other 
> constraints on my time lately.  I thought my comments were being 
> captured in the conversations, but I’m a little worried they might not 
> be, or I’m looking at the wrong doc.  I know we’ve had some good 
> discussions on a few threads that aren’t fully captured in the doc 
> yet, so I won’t re-hash those, but only call out a few things I noticed.
>
> If that link is right, then Q3a and b are wrong (I cannot find the 
> thread). There is absolutely no consensus that RY/RR name lists and 
> pricing should be restricted in any way.  At best I suggested 
> potentially finding a way to use TM-PDDRP for that, but SDRP doesn’t 
> fit the use case at all. I guess it’s fine if we need to reflect this 
> viewpoint, but I think the viewpoint of what is likely to be the whole 
> of retail RYs and RRs should also be reflected and I’m troubled there 
> is not even placeholder text for that Was someone supposed to draft that?
>
> Q4 better reflects the lack of consensus, though I think it’s still 
> missing a basic “freedom to operate” perspective from RYs/RRs.
>
> Q5a- text in orange might related to any of the subparts, but we 
> should also note the business issues with forcing ROs to hold off on 
> launching their TLDs for even longer, at a daily cost to themselves. 
> This just defers cost to another party.
>
> Q5(b)…there is no discussion on the doc so how can we close it?  But 
> in the event I didn’t make my views clear before.  Sunrise should 
> remain mandatory.  No either/or.
>
> Q6a…Staff comment/note #2…  All RY zone files are updated daily.  I’m 
> not sure where this recommendation came from.  I opposed comments 3-5 
> and I think there is good discussion on this thread.  No consensus, 
> clearly.
>
> Q8&12: no comments on the work Maxim and I submitted yet?
>
> Q 9 : also good discussion on the thread that I won’t re-hash (and it 
> looks like, I won’t have time to participate in).  But no consensus.
>
> Q10 we asked and answered this.
>
> Q11 Did we discuss this at all?
>
> Sorry for my cursory thoughts, but I didn’t want the doc to be 
> finalized yet and I can’t remember where we’re at.
>
> Best,
>
> Kristine
>
> PS: I’m going to try to make both full calls tomorrow but may have 
> conflicts.
>
> *From:*Gnso-rpm-sunrise <gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces at icann.org> *On 
> Behalf Of *Ariel Liang
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2019 12:38 PM
> *To:* gnso-rpm-sunrise at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Closing Date of Sunrise Discussion 
> Threads
>
> Dear Sunrise Sub Team members,
>
> This is the last call for comments on the Sunrise discussion threads. 
> The scheduled closing date/time for all discussion threads is 
> tomorrow, Wednesday, 29 May at 23:59 UTC.
>
> Per discussion with the Sub Team Co-Chairs, if you believe any Sunrise 
> discussion thread should remain open longer, please nominate here. 
> Furthermore, if any discussion thread were to be extended, it must be 
> closed no later than Friday 31 May at 23:59 UTC, per Co-Chairs’ 
> direction.
>
> Currently the following Sunrise discussion threads are open:
>
>   * Preamble Q (& Proposals #1, #3, #8)
>   * Q3 (& Proposals #10 & #11) - extended
>   * Q4 - extended
>   * Q5(a) - extended
>   * Q5(b) (& Proposal #7)
>   * Q6 (& Proposals #2 & #4) - extended
>   * Q8/Q12
>   * Q9 (& Proposal #13) – extended
>   * Q10
>   * Q11
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Mary, Julie, Ariel
>
> *From: *Ariel Liang <ariel.liang at icann.org <mailto:ariel.liang at icann.org>>
> *Date: *Thursday, May 23, 2019 at 8:17 AM
> *To: *"gnso-rpm-sunrise at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise at icann.org>" 
> <gnso-rpm-sunrise at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise at icann.org>>
> *Subject: *Closing Date of Sunrise Discussion Threads
>
> Dear Sunrise Sub Team members,
>
> On behalf of the Sub Team Co-Chairs, Staff would like to inform you 
> that the discussion threads for the following agreed Sunrise charter 
> questions will remain open until *23:59 UTC on Wednesday, 29 May 2019* 
> to facilitate further discussions about the proposed answers, 
> preliminary recommendations, and individual proposals.
>
>   * Preamble Q (& Proposals #1, #3, #8)
>   * Q3 (& Proposals #10 & #11) - extended
>   * Q4 - extended
>   * Q5(a) - extended
>   * Q5(b) (& Proposal #7)
>   * Q6 (& Proposals #2 & #4) - extended
>   * Q8/Q12
>   * Q9 (& Proposal #13) – extended
>   * Q10
>   * Q11
>
> Only the discussion thread for Q1 has been closed so far.
>
> Please provide your input to the proposed answers and preliminary 
> recommendations, as well as comment on the related Individual Proposal 
> via the discussion threads. You may find the links to the opening 
> messages of the discussion threads here: 
> https://community.icann.org/x/_oIWBg
>
> Thank you for your time and contribution.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Mary, Julie, Ariel
>
>
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