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This working group has hit on numerous problems with the Sunrise
regime, with harms falling disproportionately on non-commercial and
small business registrants. Michael K. has proposed a narrow
solution to one of these problems, and I think it deserves serious
consideration.<br>
<br>
Quite simply, Sunrise as it exists is an expansion of trademark
rights. Allowing priority registration without regard to the actual
goods and services to which a mark pertains turns a trademark from a
source identifier into a global dominion over a word or phrase. We
have ample evidence that Sunrise is being abused in just that way.
Looking beyond obvious abuses, there is little or no justification
for giving trademark holders priority registration in TLDs that are
clearly orthogonal to any product or service the mark-holder offers.
<br>
<br>
At scale, having that priority absolutely harms the free expression
rights of others. To use a simple example, Apple is a distinctive
trademark in consumer technology but a generic word in many other
circumstances. There are any number of individuals and organizations
who should be able to express themselves with a domain name
containing Apple, in ways that raise no possibility of trademark
infringement or cybersquatting. All of these potential users should
have equal opportunity to register "apple" in new TLDs that don't
raise an association with technology products.<br>
<br>
Moreover, we need to be consistent about questions of scale. If
sunrise registrations are used often enough to provide benefit to
trademark holders, then they are also being used often enough to
interfere with the rights of noncommercial users. And if they are
not used very much at all, then we should be jettisoning the program
as unnecessary. If Sunrise is to continue, Michael's proposal is a
straightforward way of making it conform to the actual legal rights
it's meant to protect.<br>
<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Mitch Stoltz
Senior Staff Attorney, EFF | 415-436-9333 x142
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/15/19 8:09 AM, Kathy Kleiman
wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Phil,</p>
<p>As a co-chair, I'm a little surprised by the vehemence of the
debate. Many of us are lawyers and we're used to talking about
important issues in dispassionate ways. I think we should do so
here.<br>
</p>
<p>As an ordinary member, I participate in these discussions, as
you and Brian do, and in that capacity, I note that we have a
problem. I also see the seeds of the solution in your answer
below.</p>
<p>In 2009, we foresaw that there might be gaming of the Sunrise
period -- people registering trademarks for ordinary words to
get priority during Sunrise. We now see it happening.
Journalists, reporters and bloggers have done the work for us --
and no one seems surprised by their results. I list some of the
articles we (as a Subteam) collected below. Links in our Sunrise
Summary Table under Q9 - <span style="font-size:11.0pt"><span
style="color:black"> </span><a
href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138618/%5BSunrise%20Summary%20Table%5D%20%2816%20April%202019%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1555515624235&api=v2"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138618/%5BSunrise%20Summary%20Table%5D%20%2816%20April%202019%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1555515624235&api=v2</a><br>
</span></p>
<p>Nothing in the MK proposal is burdensome, or unusual. It's
narrowly-tailored (too narrowly-tailored in my view) to prevent
gaming and to use systems already in place. </p>
<p>As you note below, the cost of the vetting is part of the
process for many gTLDs and ccTLDs -- whether it is providing
residency in Japan or the objective standard for .bank or
.insurance or .attorney or .cpa. It's already built into our
processes -- and not burdensome -- and easily extended to
Sunrise.<br>
</p>
<p>We know there is a misuse and even abuse of the Sunrise system.
The MK proposal is an easy fix, and one that actually protects
and preserves the balance of rights. We are being asked to solve
problems -- and this is a big one.<br>
</p>
<p>Best, Kathy<br>
</p>
<p><b>Articles in our gathering data (links in Summary Table):</b></p>
<p><b>● How one guy games new gTLD sunrise periods</b><b><br>
</b><b>● Fake Trademarks Stealing Generic Domains In New gTLD
Sunrises</b><b><br>
</b><b>● The Trademark ClearingHouse Worked So Well One Company
Got 24 new gTLD using The Famous Trademark “The"</b><b><br>
</b><b>● How common words like Pizza, Money, and Shopping ended
up in the Trademark Clearinghouse for new TLDs</b><b><br>
</b><b>● The numbers are in! Donuts sunrises typically get 100+
domains, but they also got gamed</b><b><br>
</b><b>● Digging in on Donuts’ Sunrise: Amazon tops the list,
gaming, and top registrars</b><b><br>
</b><b>● .Build Registry Using Questionable Swiss Trademark
Registration To Grab “Build” Domains In Sunrise</b><b><br>
</b><b>● How Did RetailMeNot Get 849 .Codes Domains In Sunrise
Without AnyTrademarks?</b><b><br>
</b> <br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/15/2019 10:10 AM, Corwin, Philip
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Kathy:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">I
presume that these are your personal views, just as the
email I posted last week raising serious doubts about
Michael’s proposal were clearly labeled as personal.
Likewise, what follows is an expression of personal views.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Not
to repeat myself, but to the extent there is gaming based
on weak marks it should be a focus of discussion when we
review requirements for mark recordation in the TMCH. But
I have seen no substantial evidence that legitimate
trademark holders are seeking to utilize sunrise
registrations in gTLDs other than those for which they
have a good faith belief that registration is necessary
for brand protection. Even where a sunrise registration
might arguably be abusive, I do not see that as placing
any burden on the speech rights of others who wish to
register a domain name that bears some resemblance. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">I
also described why I believe adoption of this proposal
will require a costly bureaucracy to yield reasonably
consistent applications of what will always be a
subjective standard subject to interpretation. I do not
see this as the same as the objective standard for a .bank
or .insurance domain (where the cost of vetting is built
into the registration fee, and the requirement is
satisfied by furnishing a certificate evidencing that the
applicant is a regulated institution) or even ccTLDs,
where some have objective criteria to demonstrate being
domiciled or doing business in a particular jurisdiction.
While I don’t believe that Michael has the responsibility
to provide a full-blown implementation scheme, I have not
yet heard a credible explanation of how adoption of a
relationship test will be consistently administered in a
cost-effective way.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Finally,
and more broadly, we are in the process of considering
proposals to recommend to the full WG for inclusion in the
Initial Report for public comment. While that does not
require a demonstration of consensus at this point, it
should require some reasonably strong support within the
sub team and, following that, the WG; and some prospect
that the proposal can achieve consensus down the road
within the WG (for the Final Report) and Council. Frankly,
I don’t see that reasonably strong support for Michael’s
proposal within the sub team but rather a sharp divide
over whether there is even a problem that requires
addressing. And, while I have no crystal ball, I feel
reasonably confident that in the end contracted parties
will oppose it for administrative and cost reasons, among
others, and that BC and IPC members will oppose it as
putting yet another burden on sunrise registrations – so I
don’t see any prospect of consensus. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Philip
S. Corwin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Policy
Counsel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">VeriSign,
Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext"
lang="EN">12061 Bluemont Way<br>
Reston, VA 20190<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">703-948-4648/Direct<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">571-342-7489/Cell<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">"Luck
is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">
Gnso-rpm-sunrise <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kathy Kleiman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 15, 2019 9:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise]
[Discussion Thread] Sunrise Q9<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>Hi All,<span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p>I think the discussion is an important one because it is
brings up issues across categories.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>a) Michael's proposal addresses a problem we have found in
our data-driven analysis. There are gamers out there who are
registering trademarks in a certain category of goods and
services, and then using them to register an array of domain
names in Sunrise having nothing at all to do with the
categories of their trademark registration. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>We committed at the outset of the RPMs -- in the 2009 era -
that we would not be expanding trademark rights. That's
exactly what is happening in these situations and
registrations.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>b) The SDRP is broken - barely used because the Trademark
Clearinghouse was supposed to be public, during
implementation it was turned private, so challengers cannot
get the information they need to challenge. Plus, it's not
the job a challenger to police the basic principle of the
entire RPM process.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Brian, you have mentioned your "suggested improvements to
the SDRP" from 2 years ago several times, but that was 1000s
of emails ago, and we worked hard to compile the data and
solutions that we are looking at today. Per the rules that
we agreed to as Co-Chairs and as a WG, we created a new
table, atop extensive data gathering, and things must be
reintroduced from prior to our URS break. If you could do
so, that would be very timely. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>I've suggested changes to the SDRP that would give
challengers some chance to use it -- although only for the
narrow purpose intended. The SDRP was not intended to solve
a broad gaming problem -- because we did not anticipate one.
We know know it exists; and a policy/operational fix
resolves it. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>c) Michael suggests a narrowly tailored solution for a
gaming problem that we now know exists. His solution is
completely consistent with how registrars, in many of these
gTLDs, already handle General Availability (e.g., required
proof to register in .BANK). It's not a new process -- just
a way to use existing process to avoid gaming and preserve
the principles we agreed to in this process. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Best, Kathy<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>On 5/9/2019 12:04 PM, BECKHAM, Brian wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Michael,
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I
would personally prefer not to get into a Google search
race for some kind of “exceptions to prove the rule” and
also because <a
href="https://trademark.eu/list-of-classes-with-explanatory-notes/"
moz-do-not-send="true">“tattoos” is not a class of
marks</a>, but these articles could be of interest in
terms of explaining why they may seek such a defensive
sunrise registration:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a
href="https://www.pinterest.ch/steelephotograp/mini-cooper-tattoos/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.pinterest.ch/steelephotograp/mini-cooper-tattoos/</a>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a
href="https://metro.co.uk/2011/01/25/andreas-muller-has-mini-tattooed-on-penis-to-win-car-632961/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://metro.co.uk/2011/01/25/andreas-muller-has-mini-tattooed-on-penis-to-win-car-632961/</a>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Also,
while MINI may not make motorcycles, their sister
company BMW does, so they could well branch out into
that product area (including related services).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I
have already suggested improvements to the SDRP on
several occasions, going back almost 2 years now (those
were apparently parked in preference of various data
seeking exercises), so would respectfully suggest that
others take the baton from here.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">As
I said, I believe there is a genuine willingness to
explore such solutions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">At
the same time, it seems unlikely that the current
proposal No. 13 is likely to garner consensus, and will
defer to the Sub Team Co-Chairs to address that at the
level of our present discussions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Brian
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
Michael Karanicolas <a
href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><mkaranicolas@gmail.com></a>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 9, 2019 5:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> BECKHAM, Brian <a
href="mailto:brian.beckham@wipo.int"
moz-do-not-send="true"><brian.beckham@wipo.int></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ariel Liang <a
href="mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><ariel.liang@icann.org></a>;
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] [Discussion
Thread] Sunrise Q9</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Interesting, thanks for sharing. I
checked whether Mini made motorcycles before I sent my
proposal in... I didn't think to check whether they made
regular bicycles!<br>
<br>
By any chance, were you able to find any examples of the
company branching into the tattoo business as well (<a
href="http://mini.tattoo" moz-do-not-send="true">http://mini.tattoo</a>)?<br>
<br>
I'm not sure if this presents a "nuance" in trademark
classes. I don't think it's much of a revelation that
"bikes" can refer to motorcycles or regular bicycles.
All this represents is a product line I was unaware of.
And under my proposal, all Mini would have to do would
be to include the link you provided when they register
the domain under sunrise, and that should be that.<br>
<br>
Personally, I don't see how the SDRP challenge process
could be retooled to turn it into something that
adequately represents the interests of potential future
registrants without injecting massive amounts of
transparency into the sunrise and TMCH processes... but
I would be interested to hear your thoughts as to how
this might work.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 12:38 PM
BECKHAM, Brian <<a
href="mailto:brian.beckham@wipo.int"
moz-do-not-send="true">brian.beckham@wipo.int</a>>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thanks
Ariel,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Copying
here, my full email to the Sunrise List from
earlier today as it relates to proposal No. 13:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">--</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thanks
Julie,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Just
for fun (as I am aware the example was merely
anecdotal), further to our hypothesizing last
night, indeed, MINI does have a range of folding
bikes: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a
href="https://www.bmwblog.com/2018/02/28/new-mini-folding-bike/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.bmwblog.com/2018/02/28/new-mini-folding-bike/</a>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">This
does however illustrate in some ways the nuance
in trademark classes and TLD typology that may
escape proposal No. 13 in its current form.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">As I
mentioned on our call, I believe there is a
shared willingness to address the issue Michael
has raised, but via the SDRP challenge process,
and not via claims exclusions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Brian
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">--</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Brian
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> Gnso-rpm-sunrise
<<a
href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ariel Liang<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 9, 2019 5:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-rpm-sunrise]
[Discussion Thread] Sunrise Q9</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Dear
Sunrise Sub Team members, <o:p> </o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">As
announced, this thread is being opened for final
mailing list discussions related to <b>Sunrise
Agreed Charter Question 9</b>, including <b>Proposal
#13</b>. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">We ask that you review
the <b>Summary Table</b> <b>(as of 16 April
2019) </b>and provide any additional input you
may have to the “<b>proposed answers &
preliminary recommendations</b>” in relation
to the Agreed Charter Question, and consider <b>draft
answers </b>to the following questions
regarding the individual proposal:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">a. Should the Sub Team
recommend that the full WG consider including
this Individual Proposal in the Initial Report
for the solicitation of public comment?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">b. In light of the
Individual Proposal, are any modifications to
the current “tentative answers & preliminary
recommendations” needed?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">c. Should any
additional Sub Team recommendations be made in
relation to the agreed Sunrise charter question?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Unless
the Sub Team Co-Chairs determine otherwise, this
discussion thread will remain open until <b>23:59
UTC on 22 May 2019</b>. Comments/input provided
past the closing date or outside this discussion
thread will not be taken into account when
compiling the final Sub Team member input.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span
style="background:yellow">Summary Table</span>
(Pages 36-40)</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">The
draft answers, preliminary recommendations, and
links to the relevant individual proposals are in
the latest Summary Table (as of 16 April 2019):<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><a
href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138618/%5BSunrise%20Summary%20Table%5D%20%2816%20April%202019%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1555515624235&api=v2"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:#1155CC">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138618/%5BSunrise%20Summary%20Table%5D%20%2816%20April%202019%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1555515624235&api=v2</span></a>.
<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;background:yellow">Agreed
Sunrise Charter Question 9</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> (Page 36)</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">The Sub Team just
discussed Agreed Charter Question 9 on 08 May
2019, hence the proposed answers are “TBD”.
Based on the Sub Team’s discussions, the
transcript and notes, staff will provide update.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><br>
Q9 In light of the evidence gathered above,
should the scope of Sunrise Registrations be
limited to the categories of goods and
services for which? </span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Proposed Answer</span></u></b><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">: </span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">TBD</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span
style="background:yellow">Individual Proposal</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px">The
Sub Team just discussed the Proposal #13 on 08 May
2019, hence there is no draft answer currently on
the Summary Table (as of 16 April 2019). Based on
the Sub Team’s<span
class="gmail-m2911496483692323131apple-converted-space"> </span>discussions,
the transcript and notes, staff will provide.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px">Link
to the individual proposal is included below.<span
class="gmail-m2911496483692323131apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Proposal #13</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">: <a
href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%2313.pdf?api=v2"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%2313.pdf?api=v2</a>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;background:yellow">Where
to Find All Discussion Threads</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Access the Documents
wiki page and find the opening messages of the
all discussion threads in the table (highlighted
in green): <a
href="https://community.icann.org/x/_oIWBg"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/x/_oIWBg</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="font-size:11.0pt">Best Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="font-size:11.0pt">Mary, Julie, Ariel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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