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<p>This seems like a good thread to keep open... in light of the
discussion of today.</p>
<p>Best, Kathy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/22/2019 8:57 PM, Zak Muscovitch
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<div style="direction:ltr">Seems to me that the important
balance that was originally struck in terms of creating
Sunrise to address the release of new gTLD’s, as described
by Kristine in today’s call, could stand to be finer tuned
in light of the known by-product results to-date, while
still maintaining Sunrise as a tool for trademark rights
holders. </div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Accordingly, proposals such as
Michael’s would potentially enable those that want Sunrise
to continue, to be satisfied, while offering up some
modest improvements to satisfy those that want better
protections for people other than trademark holders. I
therefore agree that this proposal has merit, and think
that this proposal should be negotiated within the context
of the debate about whether to continue or discontinue
Sunrise, as a possible partial compromise thereto. </div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Zak Muscovitch. </div>
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Mitch Stoltz <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mitch@eff.org"><mitch@eff.org></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 22, 2019 8:44 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] [Discussion Thread]
Sunrise Q9
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This working group has hit on numerous problems with the Sunrise
regime, with harms falling disproportionately on non-commercial
and small business registrants. Michael K. has proposed a narrow
solution to one of these problems, and I think it deserves
serious consideration.<br>
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Quite simply, Sunrise as it exists is an expansion of trademark
rights. Allowing priority registration without regard to the
actual goods and services to which a mark pertains turns a
trademark from a source identifier into a global dominion over a
word or phrase. We have ample evidence that Sunrise is being
abused in just that way. Looking beyond obvious abuses, there is
little or no justification for giving trademark holders priority
registration in TLDs that are clearly orthogonal to any product
or service the mark-holder offers. <br>
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At scale, having that priority absolutely harms the free
expression rights of others. To use a simple example, Apple is a
distinctive trademark in consumer technology but a generic word
in many other circumstances. There are any number of individuals
and organizations who should be able to express themselves with
a domain name containing Apple, in ways that raise no
possibility of trademark infringement or cybersquatting. All of
these potential users should have equal opportunity to register
"apple" in new TLDs that don't raise an association with
technology products.<br>
<br>
Moreover, we need to be consistent about questions of scale. If
sunrise registrations are used often enough to provide benefit
to trademark holders, then they are also being used often enough
to interfere with the rights of noncommercial users. And if they
are not used very much at all, then we should be jettisoning the
program as unnecessary. If Sunrise is to continue, Michael's
proposal is a straightforward way of making it conform to the
actual legal rights it's meant to protect.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Mitch Stoltz
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/15/19 8:09 AM, Kathy Kleiman
wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Phil,</p>
<p>As a co-chair, I'm a little surprised by the vehemence of
the debate. Many of us are lawyers and we're used to talking
about important issues in dispassionate ways. I think we
should do so here.<br>
</p>
<p>As an ordinary member, I participate in these discussions,
as you and Brian do, and in that capacity, I note that we
have a problem. I also see the seeds of the solution in
your answer below.</p>
<p>In 2009, we foresaw that there might be gaming of the
Sunrise period -- people registering trademarks for ordinary
words to get priority during Sunrise. We now see it
happening. Journalists, reporters and bloggers have done the
work for us -- and no one seems surprised by their results.
I list some of the articles we (as a Subteam) collected
below. Links in our Sunrise Summary Table under Q9 -
<span style="font-size:11.0pt"><span style="color:black"></span><a
href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138618/%5BSunrise%20Summary%20Table%5D%20%2816%20April%202019%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1555515624235&api=v2"
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<p>Nothing in the MK proposal is burdensome, or unusual. It's
narrowly-tailored (too narrowly-tailored in my view) to
prevent gaming and to use systems already in place.
</p>
<p>As you note below, the cost of the vetting is part of the
process for many gTLDs and ccTLDs -- whether it is providing
residency in Japan or the objective standard for .bank or
.insurance or .attorney or .cpa. It's already built into our
processes -- and not burdensome -- and easily extended to
Sunrise.<br>
</p>
<p>We know there is a misuse and even abuse of the Sunrise
system. The MK proposal is an easy fix, and one that
actually protects and preserves the balance of rights. We
are being asked to solve problems -- and this is a big one.<br>
</p>
<p>Best, Kathy<br>
</p>
<p><b>Articles in our gathering data (links in Summary Table):</b></p>
<p><b>● How one guy games new gTLD sunrise periods</b><b><br>
</b><b>● Fake Trademarks Stealing Generic Domains In New
gTLD Sunrises</b><b><br>
</b><b>● The Trademark ClearingHouse Worked So Well One
Company Got 24 new gTLD using The Famous Trademark “The"</b><b><br>
</b><b>● How common words like Pizza, Money, and Shopping
ended up in the Trademark Clearinghouse for new TLDs</b><b><br>
</b><b>● The numbers are in! Donuts sunrises typically get
100+ domains, but they also got gamed</b><b><br>
</b><b>● Digging in on Donuts’ Sunrise: Amazon tops the
list, gaming, and top registrars</b><b><br>
</b><b>● .Build Registry Using Questionable Swiss Trademark
Registration To Grab “Build” Domains In Sunrise</b><b><br>
</b><b>● How Did RetailMeNot Get 849 .Codes Domains In
Sunrise Without AnyTrademarks?</b><b><br>
</b> <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/15/2019 10:10 AM, Corwin,
Philip wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
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personal views, just as the email I posted last week
raising serious doubts about Michael’s proposal were
clearly labeled as personal. Likewise, what follows is
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
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extent there is gaming based on weak marks it should
be a focus of discussion when we review requirements
for mark recordation in the TMCH. But I have seen no
substantial evidence that legitimate trademark holders
are seeking to utilize sunrise registrations in gTLDs
other than those for which they have a good faith
belief that registration is necessary for brand
protection. Even where a sunrise registration might
arguably be abusive, I do not see that as placing any
burden on the speech rights of others who wish to
register a domain name that bears some resemblance.
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adoption of this proposal will require a costly
bureaucracy to yield reasonably consistent
applications of what will always be a subjective
standard subject to interpretation. I do not see this
as the same as the objective standard for a .bank or
.insurance domain (where the cost of vetting is built
into the registration fee, and the requirement is
satisfied by furnishing a certificate evidencing that
the applicant is a regulated institution) or even
ccTLDs, where some have objective criteria to
demonstrate being domiciled or doing business in a
particular jurisdiction. While I don’t believe that
Michael has the responsibility to provide a full-blown
implementation scheme, I have not yet heard a credible
explanation of how adoption of a relationship test
will be consistently administered in a cost-effective
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the process of considering proposals to recommend to
the full WG for inclusion in the Initial Report for
public comment. While that does not require a
demonstration of consensus at this point, it should
require some reasonably strong support within the sub
team and, following that, the WG; and some prospect
that the proposal can achieve consensus down the road
within the WG (for the Final Report) and Council.
Frankly, I don’t see that reasonably strong support
for Michael’s proposal within the sub team but rather
a sharp divide over whether there is even a problem
that requires addressing. And, while I have no crystal
ball, I feel reasonably confident that in the end
contracted parties will oppose it for administrative
and cost reasons, among others, and that BC and IPC
members will oppose it as putting yet another burden
on sunrise registrations – so I don’t see any prospect
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:windowtext"> Gnso-rpm-sunrise
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org></a> <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Kathy Kleiman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 15, 2019 9:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise]
[Discussion Thread] Sunrise Q9</span></p>
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<p>Hi All,<span style="font-size:11.0pt"></span></p>
<p>I think the discussion is an important one because it
is brings up issues across categories.</p>
<p>a) Michael's proposal addresses a problem we have found
in our data-driven analysis. There are gamers out there
who are registering trademarks in a certain category of
goods and services, and then using them to register an
array of domain names in Sunrise having nothing at all
to do with the categories of their trademark
registration.
</p>
<p>We committed at the outset of the RPMs -- in the 2009
era - that we would not be expanding trademark rights.
That's exactly what is happening in these situations and
registrations.</p>
<p>b) The SDRP is broken - barely used because the
Trademark Clearinghouse was supposed to be public,
during implementation it was turned private, so
challengers cannot get the information they need to
challenge. Plus, it's not the job a challenger to police
the basic principle of the entire RPM process.</p>
<p>Brian, you have mentioned your "suggested improvements
to the SDRP" from 2 years ago several times, but that
was 1000s of emails ago, and we worked hard to compile
the data and solutions that we are looking at today. Per
the rules that we agreed to as Co-Chairs and as a WG, we
created a new table, atop extensive data gathering, and
things must be reintroduced from prior to our URS break.
If you could do so, that would be very timely.
</p>
<p>I've suggested changes to the SDRP that would give
challengers some chance to use it -- although only for
the narrow purpose intended. The SDRP was not intended
to solve a broad gaming problem -- because we did not
anticipate one. We know know it exists; and a
policy/operational fix resolves it. </p>
<p>c) Michael suggests a narrowly tailored solution for a
gaming problem that we now know exists. His solution is
completely consistent with how registrars, in many of
these gTLDs, already handle General Availability (e.g.,
required proof to register in .BANK). It's not a new
process -- just a way to use existing process to avoid
gaming and preserve the principles we agreed to in this
process.
</p>
<p>Best, Kathy</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>On 5/9/2019 12:04 PM, BECKHAM, Brian wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt; margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Michael,
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I would
personally prefer not to get into a Google search
race for some kind of “exceptions to prove the rule”
and also because
<a
href="https://trademark.eu/list-of-classes-with-explanatory-notes/"
moz-do-not-send="true">“tattoos” is not a class of
marks</a>, but these articles could be of interest
in terms of explaining why they may seek such a
defensive sunrise registration:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a
href="https://www.pinterest.ch/steelephotograp/mini-cooper-tattoos/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.pinterest.ch/steelephotograp/mini-cooper-tattoos/</a>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a
href="https://metro.co.uk/2011/01/25/andreas-muller-has-mini-tattooed-on-penis-to-win-car-632961/"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://metro.co.uk/2011/01/25/andreas-muller-has-mini-tattooed-on-penis-to-win-car-632961/</a>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Also,
while MINI may not make motorcycles, their sister
company BMW does, so they could well branch out into
that product area (including related services).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I have
already suggested improvements to the SDRP on
several occasions, going back almost 2 years now
(those were apparently parked in preference of
various data seeking exercises), so would
respectfully suggest that others take the baton from
here.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">As I said,
I believe there is a genuine willingness to explore
such solutions.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">At the
same time, it seems unlikely that the current
proposal No. 13 is likely to garner consensus, and
will defer to the Sub Team Co-Chairs to address that
at the level of our present discussions.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Brian
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Michael
Karanicolas
<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true"><mkaranicolas@gmail.com></a>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 9, 2019 5:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> BECKHAM, Brian <a
href="mailto:brian.beckham@wipo.int"
moz-do-not-send="true"><brian.beckham@wipo.int></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ariel Liang <a
href="mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><ariel.liang@icann.org></a>;
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] [Discussion
Thread] Sunrise Q9</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Interesting, thanks for sharing.
I checked whether Mini made motorcycles before I
sent my proposal in... I didn't think to check
whether they made regular bicycles!<br>
<br>
By any chance, were you able to find any examples of
the company branching into the tattoo business as
well (<a href="http://mini.tattoo"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://mini.tattoo</a>)?<br>
<br>
I'm not sure if this presents a "nuance" in
trademark classes. I don't think it's much of a
revelation that "bikes" can refer to motorcycles or
regular bicycles. All this represents is a product
line I was unaware of. And under my proposal, all
Mini would have to do would be to include the link
you provided when they register the domain under
sunrise, and that should be that.<br>
<br>
Personally, I don't see how the SDRP challenge
process could be retooled to turn it into something
that adequately represents the interests of
potential future registrants without injecting
massive amounts of transparency into the sunrise and
TMCH processes... but I would be interested to
hear your thoughts as to how this might work.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 12:38 PM
BECKHAM, Brian <<a
href="mailto:brian.beckham@wipo.int"
moz-do-not-send="true">brian.beckham@wipo.int</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thanks
Ariel,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Copying
here, my full email to the Sunrise List from
earlier today as it relates to proposal No.
13:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">--</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thanks
Julie,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Just
for fun (as I am aware the example was
merely anecdotal), further to our
hypothesizing last night, indeed, MINI does
have a range of folding bikes:
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a
href="https://www.bmwblog.com/2018/02/28/new-mini-folding-bike/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.bmwblog.com/2018/02/28/new-mini-folding-bike/</a>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">This
does however illustrate in some ways the
nuance in trademark classes and TLD typology
that may escape proposal No. 13 in its
current form.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">As
I mentioned on our call, I believe there is
a shared willingness to address the issue
Michael has raised, but via the SDRP
challenge process, and not via claims
exclusions.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Brian
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">--</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Brian
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">
Gnso-rpm-sunrise <<a
href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ariel Liang<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 9, 2019 5:36
PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-rpm-sunrise]
[Discussion Thread] Sunrise Q9</span></p>
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</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""> </p>
<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt">Dear
Sunrise Sub Team members, </p>
<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p>
<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt">As
announced, this thread is being opened for
final mailing list discussions related to
<b>Sunrise Agreed Charter Question 9</b>,
including <b>Proposal #13</b>. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">We ask that you
review the <b>Summary Table</b> <b>(as of 16
April 2019) </b>and provide any additional
input you may have to the “<b>proposed
answers & preliminary recommendations</b>”
in relation to the Agreed Charter
Question, and consider <b>draft answers </b>to
the following questions regarding the
individual proposal:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">a. Should the Sub
Team recommend that the full WG consider
including this Individual Proposal in the
Initial Report for the solicitation of
public comment?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">b. In light of the
Individual Proposal, are any modifications
to the current “tentative answers &
preliminary recommendations” needed?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">c. Should any
additional Sub Team recommendations be made
in relation to the agreed Sunrise charter
question?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt">Unless
the Sub Team Co-Chairs determine otherwise,
this discussion thread will remain open until
<b>23:59 UTC on 22 May 2019</b>.
Comments/input provided past the closing date
or outside this discussion thread will not be
taken into account when compiling the final
Sub Team member input.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span
style="background:yellow">Summary Table</span>
(Pages 36-40)</b></p>
<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt">The
draft answers, preliminary recommendations,
and links to the relevant individual proposals
are in the latest Summary Table (as of 16
April 2019):</p>
<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt"><a
href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138618/%5BSunrise%20Summary%20Table%5D%20%2816%20April%202019%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1555515624235&api=v2"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:#1155CC">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138618/%5BSunrise%20Summary%20Table%5D%20%2816%20April%202019%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1555515624235&api=v2</span></a>.
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style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
background:yellow">Agreed Sunrise Charter
Question 9</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> (Page 36)</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">The Sub Team just
discussed Agreed Charter Question 9 on 08
May 2019, hence the proposed answers are
“TBD”. Based on the Sub Team’s discussions,
the transcript and notes, staff will provide
update.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><br>
Q9 In light of the evidence gathered
above, should the scope of Sunrise
Registrations be limited to the categories
of goods and services for which? </span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><b><u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Proposed Answer</span></u></b><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">TBD</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span
style="background:yellow">Individual
Proposal</span></b></p>
<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-variant-caps:normal; text-align:start;
word-spacing:0px">
The Sub Team just discussed the Proposal #13
on 08 May 2019, hence there is no draft answer
currently on the Summary Table (as of 16 April
2019). Based on the Sub Team’s<span
class="gmail-m2911496483692323131apple-converted-space"> </span>discussions,
the transcript and notes, staff will provide.</p>
<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-variant-caps:normal; text-align:start;
word-spacing:0px">
</p>
<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-variant-caps:normal; text-align:start;
word-spacing:0px">
Link to the individual proposal is included
below.<span
class="gmail-m2911496483692323131apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="font-variant-caps:normal;
text-align:start; word-spacing:0px">
<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Proposal #13</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">: <a
href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%2313.pdf?api=v2"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%2313.pdf?api=v2</a>
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messages of the all discussion threads in
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<a
href="https://community.icann.org/x/_oIWBg"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/x/_oIWBg</a>
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