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    <p>This seems like a good thread to keep open... in light of the
      discussion of today.</p>
    <p>Best, Kathy<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/22/2019 8:57 PM, Zak Muscovitch
      wrote:<br>
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            <div style="direction:ltr">Seems to me that the important
              balance that was originally struck in terms of creating
              Sunrise to address the release of new gTLD’s, as described
              by Kristine in today’s call, could stand to be finer tuned
              in light of the known by-product results to-date, while
              still maintaining Sunrise as a tool for trademark rights
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            <div style="direction:ltr">Accordingly, proposals such as
              Michael’s would potentially enable those that want Sunrise
              to continue, to be satisfied, while offering up some
              modest improvements to satisfy those that want better
              protections for people other than trademark holders. I
              therefore agree that this proposal has merit, and think
              that this proposal should be negotiated within the context
              of the debate about whether to continue or discontinue
              Sunrise, as a possible partial compromise thereto. </div>
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            <div style="direction:ltr">Zak Muscovitch. </div>
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            color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Gnso-rpm-sunrise
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org"><gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org></a> on behalf of
            Mitch Stoltz <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mitch@eff.org"><mitch@eff.org></a><br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 22, 2019 8:44 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org">gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] [Discussion Thread]
            Sunrise Q9
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        This working group has hit on numerous problems with the Sunrise
        regime, with harms falling disproportionately on non-commercial
        and small business registrants. Michael K. has proposed a narrow
        solution to one of these problems, and I think it deserves
        serious consideration.<br>
        <br>
        Quite simply, Sunrise as it exists is an expansion of trademark
        rights. Allowing priority registration without regard to the
        actual goods and services to which a mark pertains turns a
        trademark from a source identifier into a global dominion over a
        word or phrase. We have ample evidence that Sunrise is being
        abused in just that way. Looking beyond obvious abuses, there is
        little or no justification for giving trademark holders priority
        registration in TLDs that are clearly orthogonal to any product
        or service the mark-holder offers. <br>
        <br>
        At scale, having that priority absolutely harms the free
        expression rights of others. To use a simple example, Apple is a
        distinctive trademark in consumer technology but a generic word
        in many other circumstances. There are any number of individuals
        and organizations who should be able to express themselves with
        a domain name containing Apple, in ways that raise no
        possibility of trademark infringement or cybersquatting. All of
        these potential users should have equal opportunity to register
        "apple" in new TLDs that don't raise an association with
        technology products.<br>
        <br>
        Moreover, we need to be consistent about questions of scale. If
        sunrise registrations are used often enough to provide benefit
        to trademark holders, then they are also being used often enough
        to interfere with the rights of noncommercial users. And if they
        are not used very much at all, then we should be jettisoning the
        program as unnecessary. If Sunrise is to continue, Michael's
        proposal is a straightforward way of making it conform to the
        actual legal rights it's meant to protect.<br>
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        <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Mitch Stoltz
Senior Staff Attorney, EFF | 415-436-9333 x142
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/15/19 8:09 AM, Kathy Kleiman
          wrote:<br>
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          <p>Hi Phil,</p>
          <p>As a co-chair, I'm a little surprised by the vehemence of
            the debate. Many of us are lawyers and we're used to talking
            about important issues in dispassionate ways. I think we
            should do so here.<br>
          </p>
          <p>As an ordinary member, I participate in these discussions,
            as you and Brian do, and in that capacity, I note that we
            have a problem.  I also see the seeds of the solution in
            your answer below.</p>
          <p>In 2009, we foresaw that there might be gaming of the
            Sunrise period -- people registering trademarks for ordinary
            words to get priority during Sunrise. We now see it
            happening. Journalists, reporters and bloggers have done the
            work for us -- and no one seems surprised by their results. 
            I list some of the articles we (as a Subteam) collected
            below. Links in our Sunrise Summary Table under Q9 -
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href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138618/%5BSunrise%20Summary%20Table%5D%20%2816%20April%202019%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1555515624235&api=v2"
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          <p>Nothing in the MK proposal is burdensome, or unusual. It's
            narrowly-tailored (too narrowly-tailored in my view) to
            prevent gaming and to use systems already in place. 
          </p>
          <p>As you note below, the cost of the vetting is part of the
            process for many gTLDs and ccTLDs -- whether it is providing
            residency in Japan or the objective standard for .bank or
            .insurance or .attorney or .cpa. It's already built into our
            processes -- and not burdensome -- and easily extended to
            Sunrise.<br>
          </p>
          <p>We know there is a misuse and even abuse of the Sunrise
            system. The MK proposal is an easy fix, and one that
            actually protects and preserves the balance of rights. We
            are being asked to solve problems -- and this is a big one.<br>
          </p>
          <p>Best, Kathy<br>
          </p>
          <p><b>Articles in our gathering data (links in Summary Table):</b></p>
          <p><b>● How one guy games new gTLD sunrise periods</b><b><br>
            </b><b>● Fake Trademarks Stealing Generic Domains In New
              gTLD Sunrises</b><b><br>
            </b><b>● The Trademark ClearingHouse Worked So Well One
              Company Got 24 new gTLD using The Famous Trademark “The"</b><b><br>
            </b><b>● How common words like Pizza, Money, and Shopping
              ended up in  the Trademark Clearinghouse for new TLDs</b><b><br>
            </b><b>● The numbers are in! Donuts sunrises typically get
              100+ domains, but they also got gamed</b><b><br>
            </b><b>● Digging in on Donuts’ Sunrise: Amazon tops the
              list, gaming, and top registrars</b><b><br>
            </b><b>● .Build Registry Using Questionable Swiss Trademark
              Registration To Grab “Build” Domains In Sunrise</b><b><br>
            </b><b>● How Did RetailMeNot Get 849 .Codes Domains In
              Sunrise Without AnyTrademarks?</b><b><br>
            </b> <br>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/15/2019 10:10 AM, Corwin,
            Philip wrote:<br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
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                  color:windowtext">I presume that these are your
                  personal views, just as the email I posted last week
                  raising serious doubts about Michael’s proposal were
                  clearly labeled as personal. Likewise, what follows is
                  an expression of personal views.</span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
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                  color:windowtext">Not to repeat myself, but to the
                  extent there is gaming based on weak marks it should
                  be a focus of discussion when we review requirements
                  for mark recordation in the TMCH. But I have seen no
                  substantial evidence that legitimate trademark holders
                  are seeking to utilize sunrise registrations in gTLDs
                  other than those for which they have a good faith
                  belief that registration is necessary for brand
                  protection. Even where a sunrise registration might
                  arguably be abusive, I do not see that as placing any
                  burden on the speech rights of others who wish to
                  register a domain name that bears some resemblance.
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
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                  color:windowtext">I also described why I believe
                  adoption of this proposal will require a costly
                  bureaucracy to yield reasonably consistent
                  applications of what will always be a subjective
                  standard subject to interpretation. I do not see this
                  as the same as the objective standard for a .bank or
                  .insurance domain (where the cost of vetting is built
                  into the registration fee, and the requirement is
                  satisfied by furnishing a certificate evidencing that
                  the applicant is a regulated institution) or even
                  ccTLDs, where some have objective criteria to
                  demonstrate being domiciled or doing business in a
                  particular jurisdiction. While I don’t believe that
                  Michael has the responsibility to provide a full-blown
                  implementation scheme, I have not yet heard a credible
                  explanation of how adoption of a relationship test
                  will be consistently administered in a cost-effective
                  way.</span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
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                  color:windowtext">Finally, and more broadly, we are in
                  the process of considering proposals to recommend to
                  the full WG for inclusion in the Initial Report for
                  public comment. While that does not require a
                  demonstration of consensus at this point, it should
                  require some reasonably strong support within the sub
                  team and, following that, the WG;  and some prospect
                  that the proposal can achieve consensus down the road
                  within the WG (for the Final Report) and Council.
                  Frankly, I don’t see that reasonably strong support
                  for Michael’s proposal within the sub team but rather
                  a sharp divide over whether there is even a problem
                  that requires addressing. And, while I have no crystal
                  ball, I feel reasonably confident that in the end
                  contracted parties will oppose it for administrative
                  and cost reasons, among others, and that BC and IPC
                  members will oppose it as putting yet another burden
                  on sunrise registrations – so I don’t see any prospect
                  of consensus. </span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
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                        color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
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                      color:windowtext"> Gnso-rpm-sunrise
                      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                        href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">
                        <gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org></a> <b>On
                        Behalf Of </b>Kathy Kleiman<br>
                      <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 15, 2019 9:04 AM<br>
                      <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                        href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">
                        gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org</a><br>
                      <b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise]
                      [Discussion Thread] Sunrise Q9</span></p>
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              <p>Hi All,<span style="font-size:11.0pt"></span></p>
              <p>I think the discussion is an important one because it
                is brings up issues across categories.</p>
              <p>a) Michael's proposal addresses a problem we have found
                in our data-driven analysis. There are gamers out there
                who are registering trademarks in a certain category of
                goods and services, and then using them to register an
                array of domain names in Sunrise having nothing at all
                to do with the categories of their trademark
                registration.
              </p>
              <p>We committed at the outset of the RPMs -- in the 2009
                era - that we would not be expanding trademark rights.
                That's exactly what is happening in these situations and
                registrations.</p>
              <p>b) The SDRP is broken - barely used because the
                Trademark Clearinghouse was supposed to be public,
                during implementation it was turned private, so
                challengers cannot get the information they need to
                challenge. Plus, it's not the job a challenger to police
                the basic principle of the entire RPM process.</p>
              <p>Brian, you have mentioned your "suggested improvements
                to the SDRP" from 2 years ago several times, but that
                was 1000s of emails ago, and we worked hard to compile
                the data and solutions that we are looking at today. Per
                the rules that we agreed to as Co-Chairs and as a WG, we
                created a new table, atop extensive data gathering, and
                things must be reintroduced from prior to our URS break.
                If you could do so, that would be very timely.
              </p>
              <p>I've suggested changes to the SDRP that would give
                challengers some chance to use it -- although only for
                the narrow purpose intended. The SDRP was not intended
                to solve a broad gaming problem -- because we did not
                anticipate one. We know know it exists; and a
                policy/operational fix resolves it. </p>
              <p>c) Michael suggests a narrowly tailored solution for a
                gaming problem that we now know exists. His solution is
                completely consistent with how registrars, in many of
                these gTLDs, already handle General Availability (e.g.,
                required proof to register in .BANK). It's not a new
                process -- just a way to use existing process to avoid
                gaming and preserve the principles we agreed to in this
                process.
              </p>
              <p>Best, Kathy</p>
              <p> </p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>On 5/9/2019 12:04 PM, BECKHAM, Brian wrote:</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
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                  </span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
                    font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I would
                    personally prefer not to get into a Google search
                    race for some kind of “exceptions to prove the rule”
                    and also because
                    <a
                      href="https://trademark.eu/list-of-classes-with-explanatory-notes/"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">“tattoos” is not a class of
                      marks</a>, but these articles could be of interest
                    in terms of explaining why they may seek such a
                    defensive sunrise registration:</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
                    font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a
                      href="https://www.pinterest.ch/steelephotograp/mini-cooper-tattoos/"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.pinterest.ch/steelephotograp/mini-cooper-tattoos/</a>
                  </span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
                    font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a
href="https://metro.co.uk/2011/01/25/andreas-muller-has-mini-tattooed-on-penis-to-win-car-632961/"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://metro.co.uk/2011/01/25/andreas-muller-has-mini-tattooed-on-penis-to-win-car-632961/</a>
                  </span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
                    font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Also,
                    while MINI may not make motorcycles, their sister
                    company BMW does, so they could well branch out into
                    that product area (including related services).</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
                    font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I have
                    already suggested improvements to the SDRP on
                    several occasions, going back almost 2 years now
                    (those were apparently parked in preference of
                    various data seeking exercises), so would
                    respectfully suggest that others take the baton from
                    here.</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
                    font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">As I said,
                    I believe there is a genuine willingness to explore
                    such solutions.</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
                    font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">At the
                    same time, it seems unlikely that the current
                    proposal No. 13 is likely to garner consensus, and
                    will defer to the Sub Team Co-Chairs to address that
                    at the level of our present discussions.</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
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                    Karanicolas
                    <a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><mkaranicolas@gmail.com></a>
                    <br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 9, 2019 5:50 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> BECKHAM, Brian <a
                      href="mailto:brian.beckham@wipo.int"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><brian.beckham@wipo.int></a><br>
                    <b>Cc:</b> Ariel Liang <a
                      href="mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><ariel.liang@icann.org></a>;
                    <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org</a><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] [Discussion
                    Thread] Sunrise Q9</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Interesting, thanks for sharing.
                    I checked whether Mini made motorcycles before I
                    sent my proposal in... I didn't think to check
                    whether they made regular bicycles!<br>
                    <br>
                    By any chance, were you able to find any examples of
                    the company branching into the tattoo business as
                    well (<a href="http://mini.tattoo"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">http://mini.tattoo</a>)?<br>
                    <br>
                    I'm not sure if this presents a "nuance" in
                    trademark classes. I don't think it's much of a
                    revelation that "bikes" can refer to motorcycles or
                    regular bicycles. All this represents is a product
                    line I was unaware of. And under my proposal, all
                    Mini would have to do would be to include the link
                    you provided when they register the domain under
                    sunrise, and that should be that.<br>
                    <br>
                    Personally, I don't see how the SDRP challenge
                    process could be retooled to turn it into something
                    that adequately represents the interests of
                    potential future registrants without injecting
                    massive amounts of transparency into the sunrise and
                    TMCH processes... but I would be interested to
                    hear your thoughts as to how this might work.</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 12:38 PM
                      BECKHAM, Brian <<a
                        href="mailto:brian.beckham@wipo.int"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">brian.beckham@wipo.int</a>>
                      wrote:</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
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                            Ariel,</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
                            style="font-size:10.0pt;
                            font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Copying
                            here, my full email to the Sunrise List from
                            earlier today as it relates to proposal No.
                            13:</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
                            style="font-size:10.0pt;
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                            Julie,</span></p>
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                            style="font-size:10.0pt;
                            font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Just
                            for fun (as I am aware the example was
                            merely anecdotal), further to our
                            hypothesizing last night, indeed, MINI does
                            have a range of folding bikes: 
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                            style="font-size:10.0pt;
                            font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a
href="https://www.bmwblog.com/2018/02/28/new-mini-folding-bike/"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.bmwblog.com/2018/02/28/new-mini-folding-bike/</a>
                          </span></p>
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                            style="font-size:10.0pt;
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
                            style="font-size:10.0pt;
                            font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">This
                            does however illustrate in some ways the
                            nuance in trademark classes and TLD typology
                            that may escape proposal No. 13 in its
                            current form.</span></p>
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                            style="font-size:10.0pt;
                            font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">As
                            I mentioned on our call, I believe there is
                            a shared willingness to address the issue
                            Michael has raised, but via the SDRP
                            challenge process, and not via claims
                            exclusions.</span></p>
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                                  style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span
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                                Gnso-rpm-sunrise <<a
                                  href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org</a>>
                                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ariel Liang<br>
                                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 9, 2019 5:36
                                PM<br>
                                <b>To:</b> <a
                                  href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org</a><br>
                                <b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-rpm-sunrise]
                                [Discussion Thread] Sunrise Q9</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""> </p>
                        <p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt">Dear
                          Sunrise Sub Team members,  </p>
                        <p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p>
                        <p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt">As
                          announced, this thread is being opened for
                          final mailing list discussions related to
                          <b>Sunrise Agreed Charter Question 9</b>,
                          including <b>Proposal #13</b>. </p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt">We ask that you
                            review the <b>Summary Table</b> <b>(as of 16
                              April 2019) </b>and provide any additional
                            input you may have to the “<b>proposed
                              answers & preliminary recommendations</b>”
                            in relation to the Agreed Charter
                            Question, and consider <b>draft answers </b>to
                            the following questions regarding the
                            individual proposal:</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="vertical-align:baseline"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt">a. Should the Sub
                            Team recommend that the full WG consider
                            including this Individual Proposal in the
                            Initial Report for the solicitation of
                            public comment?</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="vertical-align:baseline"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt">b. In light of the
                            Individual Proposal, are any modifications
                            to the current “tentative answers &
                            preliminary recommendations” needed?</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="vertical-align:baseline"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt">c. Should any
                            additional Sub Team recommendations be made
                            in relation to the agreed Sunrise charter
                            question?</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                        <p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt">Unless
                          the Sub Team Co-Chairs determine otherwise,
                          this discussion thread will remain open until
                          <b>23:59 UTC on 22 May 2019</b>.
                          Comments/input provided past the closing date
                          or outside this discussion thread will not be
                          taken into account when compiling the final
                          Sub Team member input.</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                        <p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span
                              style="background:yellow">Summary Table</span>
                            (Pages 36-40)</b></p>
                        <p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt">The
                          draft answers, preliminary recommendations,
                          and links to the relevant individual proposals
                          are in the latest Summary Table (as of 16
                          April 2019):</p>
                        <p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt"><a
href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138618/%5BSunrise%20Summary%20Table%5D%20%2816%20April%202019%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1555515624235&api=v2"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                              style="color:#1155CC">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138618/%5BSunrise%20Summary%20Table%5D%20%2816%20April%202019%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1555515624235&api=v2</span></a>.
                        </p>
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                            style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""><b><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt;
                              background:yellow">Agreed Sunrise Charter
                              Question 9</span></b><b><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt"> (Page 36)</span></b></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt">The Sub Team just
                            discussed Agreed Charter Question 9 on 08
                            May 2019, hence the proposed answers are
                            “TBD”. Based on the Sub Team’s discussions,
                            the transcript and notes, staff will provide
                            update.
                          </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""><i><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt"><br>
                              Q9 In light of the evidence gathered
                              above, should the scope of Sunrise
                              Registrations be limited to the categories
                              of goods and services for which?  </span></i></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""><b><u><span
                                style="font-size:11.0pt">Proposed Answer</span></u></b><b><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt">:
                            </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">TBD</span></p>
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                            style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                        <p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span
                              style="background:yellow">Individual
                              Proposal</span></b></p>
                        <p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt;
                          font-variant-caps:normal; text-align:start;
                          word-spacing:0px">
                          The Sub Team just discussed the Proposal #13
                          on 08 May 2019, hence there is no draft answer
                          currently on the Summary Table (as of 16 April
                          2019). Based on the Sub Team’s<span
                            class="gmail-m2911496483692323131apple-converted-space"> </span>discussions,
                          the transcript and notes, staff will provide.</p>
                        <p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt;
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                          word-spacing:0px">
                           </p>
                        <p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt;
                          font-variant-caps:normal; text-align:start;
                          word-spacing:0px">
                          Link to the individual proposal is included
                          below.<span
                            class="gmail-m2911496483692323131apple-converted-space"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="font-variant-caps:normal;
                          text-align:start; word-spacing:0px">
                          <b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Proposal #13</span></b><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt">: <a
href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%2313.pdf?api=v2"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%2313.pdf?api=v2</a>
                          </span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""><b><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt;
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                              Discussion Threads</span></b><b><span
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                            </span></b></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt">Access the
                            Documents wiki page and find the opening
                            messages of the all discussion threads in
                            the table (highlighted in green):
                            <a
                              href="https://community.icann.org/x/_oIWBg"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/x/_oIWBg</a>
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                            style="font-size:11.0pt">Best Regards,</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt">Mary, Julie, Ariel</span></p>
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