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To David and Greg: since the Sunrise Preamble text was blank when
circulated by Staff on 5/23, shall we keep this Preamble thread
open?
<p>Kristine, tx for kicking this off! Two edits (in CAPS) for easy
of review below. <br>
</p>
<p>Best, Kathy</p>
<p>-------------<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/24/2019 8:34 PM, Dorrain, Kristine
via Gnso-rpm-sunrise wrote:<br>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><i><span
style="color:black">I have a start here. I tried to
stay with the principles I outlined for the Claims
subteam: Short and sweet, unemotional, and with direct
asks. I think we might need to flesh this out as we
review proposals, but it’s a start for people to throw
darts at.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><i><span
style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><i><span
style="color:black">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><i><span
style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><i><span
style="color:black">Kristine<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><i><span
style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><i><span
style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><i><span
style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><i><span
style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><i><span
style="color:black">Preamble Q(a):
</span></i></b><i><span style="color:black">Is the Sunrise
Period serving its intended purpose?</span></i><br>
<b><u><span style="color:black">Proposed Answer</span></u><span
style="color:black">:
</span></b><span style="color:black">The WG<b> </b>disagrees
on whether the Sunrise Period is serving its intended
purpose. There are primarily two schools of thought on this
and we invite community feedback on both (not only support
or lack of support but, particularly, any analysis). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo1">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="color:black"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="color:black">The Sunrise period assumes that a TM
holder’s rights are more valuable than another customer’s
and extends trademark rights beyond those granted by
relevant laws – it should be discontinued, or, at a minimum,
optional.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1
level1 lfo1">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><b><span style="color:black"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span></b><!--[endif]--><span
style="color:black">The Sunrise period was part of a
balanced system designed to offset the disproportionate cost
of cybersquatting that the new gTLD program would create
and, while it’s imperfect, it does appear to be serving its
intended purpose. <b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Preamble Q(b):
</span></i></b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Is it having
unintended effects?</span></i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><br>
<b><u><span style="color:black">Proposed Answer</span></u><span
style="color:black">:
</span></b></span><span style="color:black">The WG<b> </b>disagrees
on whether the Sunrise Period has had unintended effects.
We generally agree it’s imperfect, but for different
reasons. There are primarily two schools of thought on this
and we invite community feedback on both (not only support
or lack of support but, particularly, any analysis).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Some imperfections or pain points
from Sunrise include: perceived “price gouging” by
registries and registrars, confusion about why some TMCH
marks were unavailable during sunrise, confusion related to
tracking multiple sunrise periods for many launching TLDs
and inadequate protections because of “exact match”
requirements.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Some imperfections or pain points
from Sunrise include: PERCEIVED "GAMING" --- the TMCH
contains some marks of dubious authenticity and several
words with both TM and dictionary meanings – the TMCH is a
string comparison tool and cannot consider potential
non-infringing uses. The instrument is too blunt.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">An
additional question relates to the balanced system. Is the
fact that “both sides are dissatisfied” indicative of a
successful outcome?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Preamble Q(c):</span></i></b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> Is the TMCH Provider
requiring appropriate forms of “use” (if not, how can this
corrected)?
</span></i><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><br>
<b><u><span style="color:black">Proposed Answer</span></u><span
style="color:black">:
</span></b><span style="color:black">The WG generally
found the TMCH was properly validating “use” according to
the rules (BUT ASKS: ARE THE RULES SUFFICIENT?).<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Preamble Q(d):</span></i></b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> Have abuses of the
Sunrise Period been documented by trademark owners?</span></i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><br>
<b><u><span style="color:black">Proposed Answer</span></u><span
style="color:black">:
</span></b><span style="color:black">We interpret this
question to refer to abuses BY the named type of party.
We found evidence that a few TMCH entries, though they
complied with the rules, appeared to have been registered
solely for the purpose of entering the TMCH and getting
first access to valuable dictionary words. Question for
the community: The TMCH rules are fairly straightforward.
How much “gaming” of the system is tolerable? Have you
seen evidence of such “gaming” that is so egregious as to
warrant complex rule changes?</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Preamble Q(e):</span></i></b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> Have abuses of the
Sunrise Period been documented by Registrants?</span></i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><br>
<b><u><span style="color:black">Proposed Answer</span></u><span
style="color:black">:
</span></b><span style="color:black">We interpret this
question to refer to abuses BY the named type of party.
Registrants are trademark owners during Sunrise, so see
above. Arguably, the issue pointed out above is actually
an abuse by “registrants” since the purpose is to obtain a
mark simply to enter the field sooner, not to enforce
trademark rights. We invite the community’s comment on
this, particularly related to the magnitude of the
problem.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Preamble Q(f):</span></i></b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> Have abuses of the
Sunrise Period been documented by Registries and
Registrars?</span></i><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><br>
<b><u><span style="color:black">Proposed Answer</span></u><span
style="color:black">:
</span></b><span style="color:black">We interpret this
question to refer to abuses BY the named type of party.
Some members point to sunrise pricing and opaque reserved
name lists as “gaming” of sunrise and believe some RY/RR
practices circumvented the Sunrise period. Keeping in
mind the “picket fence”**, what suggestions do you have
for preserving not just the letter, but the spirit of the
Sunrise Period?
</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">**Contractual
restrictions regarding what aspects of registry operations
ICANN can and cannot regulate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> Gnso-rpm-sunrise
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org"><gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ariel Liang<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2019 5:10 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org">gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] [Discussion Thread]
Sunrise Preamble Q<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="color:black">Dear Sunrise Sub Team members,
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="color:black">As announced, this thread is being
opened for final mailing list discussions related to
<b>Sunrise Agreed </b></span><b>Preamble <span
style="color:black">Charter Question</span></b>, including
<b>Proposals #1, #3, #8</b><span style="color:black">. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">We
ask that you review the <b>Summary Table</b> <b>(as of 16
April 2019) </b>and provide any additional input you may
have to the “<b>proposed answers & preliminary
recommendations</b>” in relation to the Agreed Charter
Question, and consider <b>draft answers </b>to the following
questions regarding the individual proposal:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">a. Should the Sub Team
recommend that the full WG consider including this
Individual Proposal in the Initial Report for the
solicitation of public comment?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">b. In light of the
Individual Proposal, are any modifications to the current
“tentative answers & preliminary recommendations”
needed?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">c. Should any
additional Sub Team recommendations be made in relation to
the agreed Sunrise charter question?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="color:black">Unless the Sub Team Co-Chairs determine
otherwise, this discussion thread will remain open until
<b>23:59 UTC on </b></span><b>29 <span style="color:black">May
2019</span></b><span style="color:black">. Comments/input
provided past the closing date or outside this discussion
thread will not be taken into account when compiling the
final Sub Team member input.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span
style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">Summary
Table</span> (Pages 3-8)</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="color:black">The draft answers, preliminary
recommendations, and links to the relevant individual
proposals are in the latest Summary Table (as of 16 April
2019):</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><a
href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138618/%5BSunrise%20Summary%20Table%5D%20%2816%20April%202019%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1555515624235&api=v2"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#1155CC">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138618/%5BSunrise%20Summary%20Table%5D%20%2816%20April%202019%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1555515624235&api=v2</span></a><span
style="color:black">.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black;background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">Agreed
Sunrise
</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">Preamble
<span style="color:black">Charter Question</span></span></b><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">
</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">The
Sub Team</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> just<span
style="color:black"> discussed Agreed
</span>Preamble <span style="color:black">Charter Question
on </span>22 May <span style="color:black">
2019, hence the proposed answers are “TBD”. Based on the
Sub Team’s discussions, the transcript and notes, staff
will provide</span> update<span style="color:black">.
</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><i><span
style="color:black"><br>
<b>Preamble Q(a): </b>Is the Sunrise Period serving its
intended purpose?</span></i><br>
<b><u><span style="color:black">Proposed Answer</span></u><span
style="color:black">: TBD<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span
style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Preamble Q(b):
</span></i></b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Is it having
unintended effects?</span></i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><br>
<b><u><span style="color:black">Proposed Answer</span></u><span
style="color:black">: TBD</span></b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Preamble Q(c):</span></i></b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> Is the TMCH Provider
requiring appropriate forms of “use” (if not, how can this
corrected)?
</span></i><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><br>
<b><u><span style="color:black">Proposed Answer</span></u><span
style="color:black">: TBD<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Preamble Q(d):</span></i></b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> Have abuses of the
Sunrise Period been documented by trademark owners?</span></i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><br>
<b><u><span style="color:black">Proposed Answer</span></u><span
style="color:black">: TBD</span></b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Preamble Q(e):</span></i></b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> Have abuses of the
Sunrise Period been documented by Registrants?</span></i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"><br>
<b><u><span style="color:black">Proposed Answer</span></u><span
style="color:black">: TBD</span></b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Preamble Q(f):</span></i></b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> Have abuses of the
Sunrise Period been documented by Registries and
Registrars?</span></i><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><br>
<b><u><span style="color:black">Proposed Answer</span></u><span
style="color:black">: TBD</span></b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span
style="color:black;background:yellow">Individual Proposal</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;caret-color: rgb(0,
0, 0);font-variant-caps: normal;orphans:
auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust:
auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px">
<span style="color:black">The Sub Team just discussed the
Proposal #</span>1, #3, and #8
<span style="color:black">on </span>22 <span
style="color:black">May 2019, hence there is no draft answer
currently on the Summary Table (as of 16 April 2019). Based
on the Sub Team’s<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>discussions,
the transcript and notes, staff will provide</span> update.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;caret-color: rgb(0,
0, 0);font-variant-caps: normal;orphans:
auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust:
auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px">
<span style="color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;caret-color: rgb(0,
0, 0);font-variant-caps: normal;orphans:
auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust:
auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px">
<span style="color:black">Link</span>s<span
style="color:black"> to the individual proposal</span>s<span
style="color:black">
</span>are<span style="color:black"> included below.<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0,
0);font-variant-caps: normal;orphans:
auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust:
auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px">
<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Proposal #</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">1</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">:</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><a
href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%231.pdf?api=v2"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%231.pdf?api=v2</span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Proposal
#3: </span></b><a
href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%233.pdf?api=v2"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%233.pdf?api=v2</span></a><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Proposal
#8: </span></b><a
href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%238.pdf?api=v2"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102146375/Proposal%238.pdf?api=v2</span></a><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">
<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">Where
to Find All Discussion Threads</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">
</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Access the
Documents wiki page and find the opening messages of the all
discussion threads in the table (highlighted in green):
</span><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/_oIWBg"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">https://community.icann.org/x/_oIWBg</span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Best
Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Mary,
Julie, Ariel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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