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<p>Hi David, Greg and Ariel,</p>
<p>If we don't have the draft text for a question, e.g., Q5(b), how
can we close it? We've barely begun to open it... <br>
</p>
<p>Best and tx, Kathy<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/28/2019 7:00 PM, Ariel Liang
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hello
Kristine, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you
for your comments. <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Yes, that’s
the latest Sunrise status check document we circulated last
Friday.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Staff plan
to send an updated version of the Status Check document
before next week’s call that also includes the draft text
for Preamble Q, Q5(b), Q8, Q9, Q10, Q11, and Q12. All
Sunrise charter questions have been discussed by the Sub
Team. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">After the
Sub Team has done the first pass of all draft text and the
discussion threads are closed, staff will work with Sub Team
Co-Chairs to produce another updated version with
consideration to all Sub Team input. By then, the Sub Team
will still have chance to review / comment on the updated
draft and point out any missing information or
mischaracterization. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Question for
Kristine: Are you suggesting keeping the thread for Q5(b)
open longer? Comments on the discussion threads do not
necessarily need to respond to staff’s draft text, but we
understand the point you raised. Transcript for last week’s
call just became available (when Q5(b) was discussed) and we
will include the draft text for Q5(b) in the updated status
check document asap.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best
Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Ariel <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span
style="color:black">"Dorrain, Kristine"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dorraink@amazon.com"><dorraink@amazon.com></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 6:09 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Ariel Liang <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org"><ariel.liang@icann.org></a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org">"gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org"</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org"><gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Ext] RE: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Closing Date
of Sunrise Discussion Threads<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Ariel, is this doc
current?
</span><a
href="https://community.icann.org/display/RARPMRIAGPWG/Documents%2C+Drafts%2C+Responses%2C+RPM+WG+Sub+Team+for+Sunrise+Data+Review?preview=/102138618/111380133/ST%20Copy%20-%20%5BSunrise%20Status%20Check%5D%2024%20May%202019.pdf"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/display/RARPMRIAGPWG/Documents%2C+Drafts%2C+Responses%2C+RPM+WG+Sub+Team+for+Sunrise+Data+Review?preview=/102138618/111380133/ST%20Copy%20-%20%5BSunrise%20Status%20Check%5D%2024%20May%202019.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">All: I apologize I’ve just been treading
water due to other constraints on my time lately. I thought
my comments were being captured in the conversations, but I’m
a little worried they might not be, or I’m looking at the
wrong doc. I know we’ve had some good discussions on a few
threads that aren’t fully captured in the doc yet, so I won’t
re-hash those, but only call out a few things I noticed.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If that link is right, then Q3a and b are
wrong (I cannot find the thread). There is absolutely no
consensus that RY/RR name lists and pricing should be
restricted in any way. At best I suggested potentially
finding a way to use TM-PDDRP for that, but SDRP doesn’t fit
the use case at all. I guess it’s fine if we need to reflect
this viewpoint, but I think the viewpoint of what is likely to
be the whole of retail RYs and RRs should also be reflected
and I’m troubled there is not even placeholder text for that
Was someone supposed to draft that?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Q4 better reflects the lack of consensus,
though I think it’s still missing a basic “freedom to operate”
perspective from RYs/RRs.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Q5a- text in orange might related to any of
the subparts, but we should also note the business issues with
forcing ROs to hold off on launching their TLDs for even
longer, at a daily cost to themselves. This just defers cost
to another party.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Q5(b)…there is no discussion on the doc so
how can we close it? But in the event I didn’t make my views
clear before. Sunrise should remain mandatory. No
either/or.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Q6a…Staff comment/note #2… All RY zone
files are updated daily. I’m not sure where this
recommendation came from. I opposed comments 3-5 and I think
there is good discussion on this thread. No consensus,
clearly.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Q8&12: no comments on the work Maxim
and I submitted yet?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Q 9 : also good discussion on the thread
that I won’t re-hash (and it looks like, I won’t have time to
participate in). But no consensus.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Q10 we asked and answered this. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Q11 Did we discuss this at all?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry for my cursory thoughts, but I didn’t
want the doc to be finalized yet and I can’t remember where
we’re at.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Kristine<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">PS: I’m going to try to make both full
calls tomorrow but may have conflicts.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> Gnso-rpm-sunrise
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org"><gnso-rpm-sunrise-bounces@icann.org></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ariel Liang<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 28, 2019 12:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org">gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-rpm-sunrise] Closing Date of
Sunrise Discussion Threads</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Sunrise
Sub Team members,
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This is the
last call for comments on the Sunrise discussion threads.
The scheduled closing date/time for all discussion threads
is tomorrow, Wednesday, 29 May at 23:59 UTC.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Per
discussion with the Sub Team Co-Chairs, if you believe any
Sunrise discussion thread should remain open longer, please
nominate here. Furthermore, if any discussion thread were to
be extended, it must be closed no later than Friday 31 May
at 23:59 UTC, per Co-Chairs’ direction. </span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Currently
the following Sunrise discussion threads are open:
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Preamble Q (& Proposals #1,
#3, #8)</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Q3 (& Proposals #10 &
#11) - extended</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Q4 - extended</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Q5(a) - extended</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Q5(b) (& Proposal #7)</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Q6 (& Proposals #2 & #4)
- extended</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Q8/Q12</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Q9 (& Proposal #13) –
extended
</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Q10</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Q11
</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best
Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Mary, Julie,
Ariel </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span
style="color:black">Ariel Liang <</span><a
href="mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org" moz-do-not-send="true">ariel.liang@icann.org</a><span
style="color:black">><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 23, 2019 at 8:17 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"</span><a
href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org</a><span
style="color:black">" <</span><a
href="mailto:gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-sunrise@icann.org</a><span
style="color:black">><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Closing Date of Sunrise Discussion
Threads </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Sunrise
Sub Team members,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On behalf of
the Sub Team Co-Chairs, Staff would like to inform you that
the discussion threads for the following agreed Sunrise
charter questions will remain open until
<b>23:59 UTC on Wednesday, 29 May 2019</b> to facilitate
further discussions about the proposed answers, preliminary
recommendations, and individual proposals.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Preamble Q (& Proposals #1,
#3, #8)</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Q3 (& Proposals #10 &
#11) - extended</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Q4 - extended</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Q5(a) - extended</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Q5(b) (& Proposal #7)</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Q6 (& Proposals #2 & #4)
- extended</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Q8/Q12</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Q9 (& Proposal #13) –
extended
</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Q10</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Q11
</span><o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Only the
discussion thread for Q1 has been closed so far.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please
provide your input to the proposed answers and preliminary
recommendations, as well as comment on the related
Individual Proposal via the discussion threads. You may find
the links to the opening messages of the discussion threads
here: </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/_oIWBg"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">https://community.icann.org/x/_oIWBg</span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you
for your time and contribution.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best
Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Mary, Julie,
Ariel </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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