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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial">To me the questions: (1) seem vague and (2) I don't understand why we are asking these particular questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial">(1) With respect to vague:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial">Overall: Are the questions to Deloitte, to IBM or to both? I assume the questions would be reworded: taking words such as "they" out and replacing it with the addressee. I think we should
draft the questions as they would go out before agreeing to send them. <b><span style="color:#4472C4"><o:p></o:p></span></b></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial">Question 1) Does the first question ask for the Deloitte monthly reports to ICANN? All of them? I don't know what "as updated" means. (This is an area where the others on this list understand
the context and I do not. However, if I don't understand it, Deloitte is likely to not understand it also.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#4472C4">MARY: Yes, I think the idea is to get all the monthly reports, as sent to ICANN, starting from now till we conclude our review. Staff presumes that those from the past, e.g.
since the Staff RPM Paper in Sept 2015, can be provided as well. One question that came up in the call last week with the Analysis Group is whether those (and other reports) will be made available to the Sub Team (and hence the WG, and published) as to ICANN.
This is something we can perhaps confirm with Deloitte.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial">Question 2) The way this is worded comes across somewhat like a fishing expedition. Do we mean usage by trademark holders? Their usage of Sunrise? or Claims? Does it mean usage by registrars
who might be mining the data? Is it the registrar use of data? The report from the previous meeting that David attached to his email contains several pointed questions that might yeld more meaning full results. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#4472C4">MARY: Again, the staff had a similar question about the scope of this question and we would welcome guidance from the Sub Team on how to refine this question, or make it more
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial">Question 3) Again, I don't understand who "private groups" are and everyone else on this list might. Are we specifically targeting registries?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#4472C4">MARY: I believe this came from earlier discussions so I hope other Sub Team members can chime in here.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial">Putting myself in the TMCK's shoes, I think when we ask the TMCH (Deloitte or IBM) questions, I think we should tell them why we are asking. That could be in the form of the chartering questions
to which we seek answers. That way, if they don't have the precise data available, they might be able to develop a different data set that answers our question. Sharing our issues with the TMCH would serve to make them more of a partner in developing improvements
rather than put them in the position where they are blindly answering questions and no sharing the wisdom they have gained.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#4472C4">MARY: Thank you, that would in the staff view be an excellent way to proceed. We are happy to try to draft some sort of cover note or letter, if the Sub Team wishes.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial">and from that develop the data set that would help to answer them and ask the TMCH parties for that data. We might work with the TMCH collaboratively to help us define and obtain the data
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#4472C4">MARY: Yes, we hope that by including the Charter questions in the Scoping Document they can serve as a guide/framework for the Sub Team and its work.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial">I know this is pretty extensive work and I am not sure how best to go about it. And as I said, this work might have taken place in earlier meetings with the group. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial">First, I'd be pleased to hear with some more detail how we arrived at these questions. i don't think the effort would be wasted because we will want to tell the TMCH parties the same thing. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#4472C4">MARY: They were based on earlier Sub Team conversations that were quite preliminary, so clarifying and tightening them may be a good idea.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial">If we wanted to pursue my line of thinking, we could have a meeting with the clearing house and go thru the charter questions accompanied by our ideas of what data is needed and they can tell
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Aug 3, 2016, at 3:37 PM, David Tait <<a href="mailto:david.tait@icann.org">david.tait@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri">From:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri">David Tait <<a href="mailto:david.tait@icann.org"><span style="color:#954F72">david.tait@icann.org</span></a>><br>
<b>Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, 2 August 2016 at 09:40<br>
<b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b><<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-tmch@icann.org"><span style="color:#954F72">gnso-rpm-tmch@icann.org</span></a>><br>
<b>Cc:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Antonietta Mangiacotti <<a href="mailto:antonietta.mangiacotti@icann.org"><span style="color:#954F72">antonietta.mangiacotti@icann.org</span></a>>, Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org"><span style="color:#954F72">mary.wong@icann.org</span></a>><br>
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