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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Please find the attendance, MP3 recording and Adobe Connect chat below for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) TMCH Sub Team call held on Friday, 02 December 2016 at 16:00 UTC. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Adobe Connect chat </span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">transcript for 02 December 2016:</span></u></b></p>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the Review of All Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) - TMCH Sub Team Meeting on Friday, 02 December 2016 at 16:00 UTC. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Meeting page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_-5FRm4Aw&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=hw0v3Sw60Zh_T_sUGCfQn4CM4M3sRYA6nlpUANgVH28&s=B8jXZ-cGwF-3d2sMj4ysZ8gpXJ2IkQWss7wzje9muKY&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_-5FRm4Aw&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=hw0v3Sw60Zh_T_sUGCfQn4CM4M3sRYA6nlpUANgVH28&s=B8jXZ-cGwF-3d2sMj4ysZ8gpXJ2IkQWss7wzje9muKY&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David Tait:Hello all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David Tait:I'm still trying to get in on the audio bridge</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy:me too</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:I will let the operator know to watch for your lines</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:dialing in</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy:I'm in</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:I'm on the mobile app. tell me if you hear background noise.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kurt Pritz:I agree with using the Tabulated Version - I just bring up the Word version on my laptop so I can see it more easily. @Kristine, the Mobile app works great but the smaller scree makes it tough to follow
printed matters</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy:Tx Kurt. I have it up on my laptop in Word too.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David Tait:The document is just coming up now</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Corwin:Good day all. Regrets for the slightly late arrival.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:I can't</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:just says upload in progress here</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:I see it</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:Could we extend the question to include marks protected by statute or treaty?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy:How accessible is the TMCH database and RPM Rights Protection Actions and Defenses to individuals, orgs, trademar owners and tm agents in developing countries?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Corwin:Agree with Kurt and Kathy on #13</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:Sorry I'm not on the call will type it into the chat</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:I support Kathys wording above. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Corwin:And 14 as well, as it is related/combining might be advisable</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kurt Pritz:@ Paul: I think marks protected by statute and treaty would already be included. Should we take off the word ""private" ?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:Governments and IGOs may not have trademarks but still have protections and the dicussions should cover these cases</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Corwin:Suggested wording sounds ok to me</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy:yes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:thanks David.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:I support the restatement </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:+ 1 KK</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy:can hear you</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy:What concerns are being raised about the TMCH being closed, and should the TMCH Database remain closed or become open?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:Open</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:It would be useful to include a discussion on the uses the public data can be put to - eg. bulk data</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:+1 Kathy</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy: What concerns are being raised about the TMCH being closed, what are the reasons for having/keeping the TMCH Database private, and should the TMCH Database remain closed or become open?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:+1 Kathy</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:LIke Kathy's question</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:I can see them now, so no need to read it out unless someone else requires it.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:so to restate Vaibhav's point in a neutral manner: what community issues exist that could be resolved by permitting additional TMCH interfaces.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:^ needs work but trying to capture the point?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:Thanx Kristine - May be add "What & Which & How" in the rephrasing and give it a direction for us to dive in</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:right</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy:What are the concerns re: theTMCH Dababase remaining with a single provider?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Corwin:We should aim for neutral questions that are as brief as possible and that invite a full range of potential resposes.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:The Idea is to facilitate MORE domain name registration for Digital Penetration rather than making it a costly affair as it becomes a Entry barrier for a lot many</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:Make it available to all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:Could be monitored</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:Automate it</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy:What are the concerns re: theTMCH Dababase remaining with a single provider and how might those concerns be addressed?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:I think I like that Phil! can we see it written out? maybe from the transcript </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:I propose we start with what Phil just said</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David Tait:Thanks Kristine</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Corwin:Does the present structuring of the TMCH optimize such operationsl considerations as cost, reliablity, global reach, and service diversity and consistency, or should significant changes such as multiple
providers be considered?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kurt Pritz:I would also like to see Phil's question in writing. It sounds like a clear approach</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Corwin:That's my proposed wording. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy:@Phil: I am afraid we could spend years answering your quesstion</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kurt Pritz:To keep the question neutral - I'd like to see multiple providers out or additional changes included </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Corwin:No more time than any other iteration that raises the same issues ;-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:agree Kurt</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Corwin:should be "operational"</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:I strongly oppose listing out our suggested solutions. we want the group to identify problems and solutions. we will assuredly miss something. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:yes, concerns first, invite brainstorming, don't list solutions (like regional offices)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:right</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy:What are the concerns with the TMCH Database being provided by a single Provider - and how might those concerns be addressed?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:+1 Kathy</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy:Accessibility is now the merged Qusetion 13/14. Perhaps we can put them together</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy:Not merged, but closer together in the list.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:YEs as tey would become a large part</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:@Kurt re: quickly jumping back to question Q13 Yes removing the word private would be a good improvement.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:I don't think we need it again either. adding it here again presupposes accessibility is a problem (it maybe is, but let's not assume that)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy:what's the edit?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2::-O</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2::-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:13-14 are Accesibility in terms of Security & 16 would be from a reach perspective</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:Kurt, can you support Kathys more general version? I think I can</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:looks like there are just formatting changes in rewrite 2</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kurt Pritz:@ Kristine: I think Phil's question is the best with the edit you and I agreed to: Does the present structuring of the TMCH optimize such operationsl considerations as cost, reliablity, global reach,
and service diversity and consistency, or should significant changes be considered?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy:Ed Morris wrote to me privately about concerns that are the same as Phil's </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:agree that we don't presuppose the goal of the TMCh</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:simplicity was a key driver</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Corwin:Just noting that I have to drop off in 3 minutes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:Agree with Phil</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy:Have the benefits outweighed the costs for ICANN and the Community?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:Does that mean that we are getting closer to doing a Economic Analysis of TMCH ?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:can we leave the original?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:seems fairly clear and neutral? </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:Would “Are the costs and benefits of the TMCH, for rights holders, for ICANN, for the community, proportionate?” be slightly more neutral?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy:I like it</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:seems good</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:Can V add Community / Individuals</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Corwin:Paul's language seems good</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:There are three stake holders</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Phil Corwin:Must depart. Bye all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:thanks Kathy</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:Thnks </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy:Tx All!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:Have a great rest of your days </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:I just finished my Pizza</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:& now coke</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain:thanks all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:;-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:thanks all bye</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Vaibhav Aggarwal 2:ciao</div>
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