[Gnso-rpm-trademark] **with attached attendance Mp3, Attendance, AC recording & AC Chat Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Trademark Claim

Fri Apr 21 19:20:17 UTC 2017

Dear All,

Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email. The MP3,
Adobe Connect recording and Adobe Connect chat below for the Review of all
Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Trademark
Claims call held on Friday, 21 April 2017 at 16:00 UTC. Attendance of the
call is posted on agenda wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/ndPRAw

MP3:
https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-trademark-claims-21apr17-en.mp3

Adobe Connect recording:
<https://participate.icann.org/p5ctyfh7qkd/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=270a392f7eacd741
b08abf3f2654f84519ad6e8cf34f5cf5e6c5e8497ddb0bc4>
https://participate.icann.org/p5ctyfh7qkd/

The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master
Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar

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Wiki page:  https://community.icann.org/x/psrRAw

Thank you.

Kind regards,

Terri Agnew

Adobe Connect chat transcript for 21 April 2017:     

           Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Review of all Rights Protection
Mechanisms (RPMs) Sub Team for Trademark Claims is scheduled for Friday, 21
April 2017 at 16:00 UTC for 60 minute duration.

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  Terri Agnew:We would like to introduce Julie Bisland as GNSO SO/AC Support
coordinator. She has started training with us this week.

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Hi everyone

  Terri Agnew:Kathy Kleiman is also on audio only at this time

  Michael R Graham:Morning all.

  Susan Payne:yes to good faith

  Amr Elsadr:There was also a suggestion on the Sunrise Registrations Sub
Team call to move question 4 there.

  Susan Payne:agree with Michael

  Beth Allegretti:I also agree

  Amr Elsadr:It's all good. :-)

  Mary Wong:@Michael, Q4 was suggested in one comment to the Issue Report.

  Mary Wong:The Charter basically just listed all suggested questions in
their original form without editing.

  Mary Wong:It was the actual text from one comment.

  Susan Payne:yes we did not review these questions and edit to remove bias,
we only did that exercise for the TMCH charter Qs

  Mary Wong:And this is the exercise for this Sub Team and for Sunrise as
well.

Amr Elsadr:That's a good point Susan.

  Michael R Graham:Agree with "batching"

  Mary Wong:No - this question was not dropped; it was moved to the TMCH
discussion. There it was reworded and in its reworked form dsicussed by the
WG. 

  Michael R Graham:@Mary -- Agree it should not be here.

  Susan Payne:agree, thanks Mary.  we did move this to the TMCH debate and
refine the wording to remove bias

  J. Scott Evans:I think that the subsequent questions are asked with a
great deal of hyperbole

  J. Scott Evans:I think the questions as currently worded clearly encompass
this issue.

  Terri Agnew:Scott Austin is on audio only

  Mary Wong:This Sub Team can consider if the Analysis Group findings raise
specific additional questions about Claims.

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Thanks Mary, welcome Scott

  J. Scott Evans:3 and 5 cover this. those 2 question are very broad. I do
not think the discussion of these issues is precluded by these two
questions.

  Susan Payne:so, to be clear we are taking this question back out aren't we

  J. Scott Evans:Shouldn't the question be is the Claims notice having the
INTENDED deterent effect?

  Amr Elsadr:The Analysis Group covered some of this, ackowledging some
constraints in the data they had access to.

  Mary Wong:@Kristine, per Amr's note, this may be the place to consider the
Analysis Group's findings (as data to assist the review of thsi question).

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Tx Mary

  Mary Wong:We'll go through the previous documentation to find the
references that Michael is asking about.

  Michael R Graham:Thanks, Mary!  It's best that we keep (or get) focused
through what has been done.

  J. Scott Evans:I am almost certain the IRT Report has this infromation.

  J. Scott Evans:I disagree with Kathy's points. I find many times the
sub-questions become very biased and agenda driven

  Susan Payne:+1 Kristine

  J. Scott Evans:Overally, broad application is NOT the intended effect.

  J. Scott Evans:+1

  Susan Payne:Yes Michael - I think that helps us with our ordering of
dealing with the questions, ie maybe 1/2 come later than 3/5

  Mary Wong:On Question 1, note that the Analysis Group also discussed this
in their revised report (on extending the Claims period).

  Michael R Graham:@Susan -- Agreed -- I think what we can do is seek the
information/evidence of what is happening and then base further quesitons on
that DATA.

  J. Scott Evans:+1 to Kristine's plan forward.

  Mary Wong:The GNSO has a process for requesting data from external sources
- if appropriate, a WG may make that request to the Council. We'll provide
the information to the list.

  Susan Payne:agree

  Mary Wong:We're good!

  Michael R Graham:Kristine: Agree with path and plan.

  Terri Agnew:@Kristine, we will not your apology for next week

  Terri Agnew:**note

  Beth Allegretti:I will also not be on the call next Friday

  Amr Elsadr:Should be good.

  Mary Wong:You'll get the update before then :) Prob Monday

  Terri Agnew:@Beth , apology is noted

  J. Scott Evans:Yes. and that needs to be update by Wednesday so the
subteam can look at prior to our call next Friday.

  Mary Wong:OK, got it - staff part will be done by Monday to enable the
group to do its homework :)

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Perfect, thanks.

  Amr Elsadr:Note that the full working group call next week will take place
at the APAC-friendly alternate time 03:00 UTC on Thursday.

  Mary Wong:@Kristine, @Michael - yes, not to proceed with commissioning
data but can identify data gaps/needs and can identify known sources plus
take initial look at what we already have (e.g. Analysis Group, Deloitte,).

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Let's put our redrafted Qs on
the google doc in a new column

  Michael R Graham:@Kristine -- Thanks, Quesitons and Set down data we think
needed to answer questions.  Agreed!

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Yes, thanks.

  Michael R Graham:Thanks J.Scott for confirming.

  Michael R Graham:@Kristine --  Thanks for shepherding meeting -- great
work.

  Susan Payne:thaks Kristine great call

  Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Thanks all

  Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.

  Mary Wong:Thanks Kristine ande veryone!

  Louise Marie Hurel:Thanks all

  J. Scott Evans:ciao, ciao

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