<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi all,<div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I will be chairing tomorrow’s call. Just to confirm Julie’s words. We are going to start sequentially with question 2. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,<br class=""><div class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 26, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" class="">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Rebecca,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thank you very much for your helpful input.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Kind regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Julie<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">"Tushnet, Rebecca" <<a href="mailto:rtushnet@law.harvard.edu" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">rtushnet@law.harvard.edu</a>><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 1:31 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>[Ext] Re: REMINDER - Proposed Agenda - RPM PDP WG TM Claims Sub Team - 27 March 2019<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">I was unable to attend the Kobe meeting, so I wanted to post my view on the first tentative answer:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class="">QUESTION 1 Is the Trademark Claims service having its intended effect?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class=""><br class="">(a) Is the Trademark Claims service having its intended effect of <br class="">deterring bad-faith registrations and providing Claims Notice to domain <br class="">name applicants?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(255, 102, 0);" class="">Tentative answer of Subteam in Kobe session: </span><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class="">Probably<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class="">RT: We don't have enough information to make any kind of judgment about this. It might be a deterrent, if you believe that cybersquatters can be deterred by a notice, but we have collected zero <i class="">data</i> that indicate that this is true. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class="">Where data are absent: (1) what percentage of registration attempts that received a notice turned back because of the notice, with a huge potential range; (2) what percentage of registration attempts that received a notice were “cybersquatting” or even “inadvertent trademark conflict” as opposed to completely unproblematic uses of strings like cloud and hotel; (3) whether the cohort that turned back was (a) proportionate to the problem intended to be solved, (b) disproportionately made of cybersquatters or other potential infringers, or (c) disproportionately made of legitimate potential registrants (since we have no data on what deters cybersquatters nor any other information about how people who intend to cybersquat respond to notices); (4) whether the absolute number or relative percentage of cybersquatting attempts changed when there was no longer a notice in place (as a change in behavior post-notice period, or its absence, could have provided relevant evidence); (5) we have no data about what the general incidence of cybersquatting in the new gTLDs is in the first place, whether in absolute terms or as compared to legacy gTLDs without the notice system. In sum, there is evidence that notice may increase costs and deter registrations, but no evidence about what those registrations would have been in the absence of notice. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class="">At best, it is "possible" that the Claims service is having its intended effect. There is insufficient evidence that this effect is "probably" happening.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div id="signature" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">Rebecca Tushnet<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">Frank Stanton Professor of First Amendment Law, Harvard Law School<br class="">703 593 6759<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-align: center;"><hr size="2" width="98%" align="center" class=""></div><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="" class="">From:</span></b><span style="" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Gnso-rpm-trademark <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-trademark-bounces@icann.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-rpm-trademark-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, March 26, 2019 12:52 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Gnso-rpm-trademark] REMINDER - Proposed Agenda - RPM PDP WG TM Claims Sub Team - 27 March 2019</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Dear All,<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Please see the agenda below and the attached summary table for the meeting on<b class=""><u class="">Wednesday, 27 March at 17:00 UTC</u></b>. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><i class=""><span style="color: red;" class="">Note for US participants – the time of 17:00 UTC is<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class="">one hour later</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>than previously in US time zones due to the change to Daylight Savings Time – so, 10:00 PDT and 13:00 EDT.</span></i></b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The notes from the last call are included below, and these indicate that the Sub Team reviewed questions 1 and 3(b). Please also see the attached transcript. Sub Team members may wish to consider which questions to turn to next for review, either sequentially with question 2, or otherwise.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Best,<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Julie<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Gnso-rpm-trademark <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-trademark-bounces@icann.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-rpm-trademark-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Friday, March 15, 2019 at 12:43 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>[Gnso-rpm-trademark] Proposed Agenda - RPM PDP WG TM Claims Sub Team - 27 March 2019</span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><p class="xmsoplaintext" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Dear RPM PDP TM Claims Sub Team members,<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="xmsoplaintext" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="xmsoplaintext" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">For the meeting on Wednesday, 27 March at 17:00 UTC the Sub Team will continue the development of preliminary recommendations. Here is a proposed Draft Agenda:<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="xmsoplaintext" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p><ol start="1" type="1" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;" class=""><li class="xmsoplaintext" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Review agenda/updates to Statements of Interest (SOIs)<o:p class=""></o:p></li><li class="xmsoplaintext" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Development of Preliminary Recommendations<o:p class=""></o:p></li><li class="xmsoplaintext" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">AOB<o:p class=""></o:p></li></ol><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">For reference concerning the discussion and progress at ICANN64 in Kobe on 11 March, please see below the brief notes, but also the attached transcript and the TM Claims Summary Table. <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Kind regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Julie<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Julie Hedlund, Policy Director<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Notes and Action Items:</b><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><u class="">Question 1</u>:<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Is the Trademark Claims service having its intended effect? Consider the following questions specifically in the context both of a Claims Notice as well as a Notice of Registered Name:<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 14.45pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -14.45pt;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; letter-spacing: -0.05pt;" class="">(a)</span><span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; letter-spacing: -0.05pt;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Is the Trademark Claims service having its intended effect of deterring bad-faith registrations and providing Claims Notice to domain name applicants?<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 14.45pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -14.45pt;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; letter-spacing: -0.05pt;" class="">(b)</span><span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; letter-spacing: -0.05pt;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Is the Trademark Claims service having any unintended consequences, such as deterring good-faith domain name applications?<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Tentative Preliminary Recommendation</b>:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class=""><i class="">1(a) Yes it is working. 1(b) general agreement that the language in the notice needs to be revised.</i></b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Discussion:<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- Don’t have the data to answer either (a) or (b).<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- Do think it is having its intended effect.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- On 1(b) – possibly based on the data. Not sure we have data that one person was deterred, so don’t know that we can answer 1(b).<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- Already agree that the notice needs to be rewritten, without getting too watered down.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- Is intimidating an unintended consequence? Depends on what you mean by intimidation. Is the deterrence appropriate – that you got the correct result.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- We had some people who got the notice and didn’t proceed. We did have people who didn’t register but didn’t say it was because of the notice. Didn’t have anyone who said they were put off by the claims notice.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- Could agree that some people who might have been good faith registration might not have gone forward. That the notice wording was not optimal.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- It is a question of proportionality. Is the notice having a proportional impact? Notoriously difficult to measure chilling effects. Can probably agree that it is happening but not to what extent.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- Might rewrite as something informational, rather than intimidate.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- From a registrar standpoint any extra click is bad.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- Second part of question 1(a) is easy – providing Claims Notice to domain name applicants. Not sure we can answer the first part. For 1(b) the answer seems to be yes.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- Maybe rewrite the notice to be an informative thing so that they can make their own decisions.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- Final report of the Analysis Group that people are getting the notices on dictionary words. Seems to support 1(b) as “yes” that it is having unintended consequences and deterring good-faith domain name registrations.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- On proportionality and the next round, there are likely to be more niche extensions where there might be lower likelihood of cybersquatting.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Michael Graham: Comment: <<I believe our discussions, experience and evidence before us suggest we answer: a) Yes, and b) No evidence other than that there may be some misunderstanding of the Notice and scope of TM rights.>><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Michael Graham: Comment: <<Please note that Question 3 relates to the effect of the Notice -- intimidation. I do not believe (on reflection) that effectiveness of the Notice is appropriate for the discussion of Question 1 a and b.>><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><u class="">Question 3(b)</u>:<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">(a) Does the Trademark Claims Notice to domain name applicants meet its intended purpose?<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">(i) If not, is it intimidating, hard to understand, or otherwise inadequate? If inadequate, how can it be improved?<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">(ii) Does it inform domain name applicants of the scope and limitations of trademark holders’ rights? If not, how can it be improved?<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">(iii) Are translations of the Trademark Claims Notice effective in informing domain name applicants of the scope and limitation of trademark holders’ rights?<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">(<b class="">b)Should Claims Notifications only be sent to registrants who complete domain name registrations, as opposed to those who are attempting to register domain names that are matches to entries in the TMCH?</b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Tentative Preliminary Recommendation on Question 3(b):<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">Maintain the current policy – send the Claims Notifications at some point before the domain name registration is completed</i></b>.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Discussion:<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Question 3(b)<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- The notice should be given before the registration – if you do it after you’ve paid for the name you don’t want to find out that it is an infringing name.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- 48-hour window before general availability, even if accepted the claims notice 3 months prior, but if they don’t accept it again then they lose it.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- Giving the notice after the registration is completed seems unfair to everybody.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- Pre-registration is with the registrar, not with the registry. Other issue is the fast expiration of tokens. <span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- Some registrars may have wanted to do the notice after registration because it was technically easier, but one way to get greater buy-in from registrars if ICANN had an open source registration system they could use.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- Focus on the policy aspect, not the technical issues – it’s a timing aspect. If it’s after it doesn’t serve the intended purpose of the notice.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- We should recommend the policy and let the technical issues work themselves out.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- Think about what would happen if we gave the notice after.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- Pre-registration has nothing to do with the claims process. It also isn’t an ICANN process – it’s a registrar marketing process.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- Set a high-level policy – customers need to get notice that there might be a claim. Don’t get into the implementation details. You could just set a timeframe/window. <span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- One Sub Team member indicated concern with answering 3(b) out of context of 3(a).<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- Note that Sub Team members who are not participating in this meeting will be able to contribute.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-- Can make a recommendation but point out issues that the IRT might want to consider.<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Gnso-rpm-trademark mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="mailto:Gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org</a><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-trademark" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-trademark</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></body></html>