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In response to Kristine's suggestion about suggesting a perpetual claims period--and keeping in mind Kristine's preference for not putting in our disputes, to which I'm highly sympathetic--I would oppose this language. </div>
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We never arrived at approval or agreement of the full subteam about any individual proposal regarding perpetual claims, and there is definitely no consensus that it is a good idea. The existing policy, very much including its time limits, was negotiated extensively
in the name of balance. <span style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Web (West European)", "Segoe UI", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px;"> We have no data to show us that permanent
claims are in any way needed by trademark owners (including, for example, data about a change in cybersquatting behavior after Claims ends), but lots of data to show us problems with the existing TM Claims and the problems of the current 90 day period turning
many potential registrants back. </span></p>
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I am concerned that, <span style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Web (West European)", "Segoe UI", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px;">if we recommend this option specifically,
we are implicitly suggesting that it is an offering we {subteam/WG) support when we don't. </span><span style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-family: "Segoe UI", "Segoe UI Web (West European)", "Segoe UI", -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Roboto, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 15px;">Given
the existing concerns with claims, blessing perpetual claims--even as an apparently ICANN approved "option" rather than as a mandate--is not a good idea.</span></p>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Gnso-rpm-trademark <gnso-rpm-trademark-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Dorrain, Kristine via Gnso-rpm-trademark <gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 24, 2019 5:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ariel Liang; gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-rpm-trademark] [Discussion Thread] TM Claims Q5</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Proposed language for Q5:</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#2E75B6">Generally, the WG recommends a uniform minimum duration of 90 days for Claims periods where the RO has not obtained an exemption (See Q1). We do recommend ROs continue to be allowed to extend the Claims
period (up to and including in perpetuity) if desired. We have questions for the community in Q1 related to potential scenarios for allowing some RO business models to obtain an exemption for Claims that may or may not be based on “types” of gTLDs (an undefined
term).</span></b></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Gnso-rpm-trademark <gnso-rpm-trademark-bounces@icann.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ariel Liang<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 17, 2019 10:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-rpm-trademark] [Discussion Thread] TM Claims Q5</p>
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<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="color:black">Dear Trademark Claims Sub Team members,
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<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="color:black">As announced, this thread is being opened for final mailing list discussions related to
<b>Trademark Claims Agreed Charter Question </b></span><b>5</b>.<span style="color:black">
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<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="color:black">We ask that you review the
<b>Summary Table</b> <b>(as of 17 May 2019) </b>and provide any additional input you may have to the “<b>tentative answers & preliminary recommendations</b>” in relation to the Agreed Charter Question</span>.
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<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="color:black">Unless the Sub Team Co-Chairs determine otherwise, this discussion thread will remain open until
<b>23:59 UTC on </b></span><b>29<span style="color:black"> May 2019</span></b><span style="color:black">. Comments/input provided past the closing date or outside this discussion thread will not be taken into account when compiling the final Sub Team member
input.</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span style="color:black; background:yellow">Summary Table
</span><span style="color:black">(Pages </span>26<span style="color:black">-</span>28<span style="color:black">)</span></b></p>
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<span style="color:black">The draft answers, preliminary recommendations, and links to the relevant individual proposals are in the latest Summary Table (as of 17 May 2019):
</span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_102138613_-255BClaims-2520Summary-2520Table-255D-2520-252817-2520May-25202019-2529.pdf-3Fversion-3D1-26modificationDate-3D1558112544184-26api-3Dv2&d=DwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=E-M4OQvQBo8UWqE1LwEiDR3PcWlfM0I-0jiI1c4ous0&m=sz5KNkF1dX7qXI0OUuU_65op2jGtdRduaa-TzOaOibY&s=aU1L9f64t8pDXnLhLlkOaeGrzEFMUAN9fM_zJwnFkRI&e=">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138613/%5BClaims%20Summary%20Table%5D%20%2817%20May%202019%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1558112544184&api=v2</a><span style="color:black">
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black; background:yellow">Agreed Trademark Claims Question
</span><span style="background:yellow">5</span><span style="color:black"> </span>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">The Sub Team just discussed Agreed Charter Question </span>5<span style="color:black"> on </span>15<span style="color:black"> May 2019, hence the proposed answers are “TBD”. Based on the Sub Team’s discussions,
the transcript and notes, staff will provide update.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="color:black">Q</span>5</i></b><i>: Should the Trademark Claims period continue to be uniform for all types of gTLDs in subsequent rounds?</i></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="color:black">Proposed Answer</span></u>:
</b>TBD</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="background:yellow">Where to Find All Discussion Threads</span>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Access the Documents wiki page and find the opening messages of the all discussion threads in the table (highlighted in green):
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_9YIWBg&d=DwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=E-M4OQvQBo8UWqE1LwEiDR3PcWlfM0I-0jiI1c4ous0&m=sz5KNkF1dX7qXI0OUuU_65op2jGtdRduaa-TzOaOibY&s=W0cIDub4I7qYLA2YafLi7mTGvAk8rIAtswXm8vGs8g0&e=">
https://community.icann.org/x/9YIWBg</a> </p>
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<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="color:black">Best Regards,</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="color:black">Mary, Julie, Ariel
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