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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I’m good with this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kathy Kleiman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 28, 2019 6:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-rpm-trademark] [Discussion Thread] TM Claims Q5<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>I think after the dialogue on the list, we arrived at the language below. (note: my only contribution was to expand the RO acronym)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Revised Proposed language for Q5:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#2E75B6">Generally, the WG recommends a uniform minimum duration of 90 days for Claims periods where the Registry Operator has not obtained an exemption (See Q1). We have questions for the community in Q1 related
to potential scenarios for allowing some Registry Operator business models to obtain an exemption for Claims that may or may not be based on “types” of gTLDs (an undefined term).</span></b>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 5/24/2019 7:41 PM, Dorrain, Kristine via Gnso-rpm-trademark wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">In the interest of moving things along, I’m not wedded to that middle sentence and could strike it. I am generally in favor of not saying more than we need to
and I take your point that simply re-iterating existing practice is unnecessary verbiage here. OK to simply remain silent.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Kristine</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Tushnet, Rebecca
<a href="mailto:rtushnet@law.harvard.edu"><rtushnet@law.harvard.edu></a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 24, 2019 4:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ariel Liang <a href="mailto:ariel.liang@icann.org"><ariel.liang@icann.org></a>;
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org">gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org</a>; Dorrain, Kristine
<a href="mailto:dorraink@amazon.com"><dorraink@amazon.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Discussion Thread] TM Claims Q5</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">In response to Kristine's suggestion about suggesting a perpetual claims period--and keeping in mind Kristine's preference for not putting in our disputes, to which I'm highly sympathetic--I
would oppose this language. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.5pt">We never arrived at approval or agreement of the full subteam about any individual proposal regarding perpetual claims, and there is definitely no consensus that it is a good idea. The existing policy, very much including
its time limits, was negotiated extensively in the name of balance. We have no data to show us that permanent claims are in any way needed by trademark owners (including, for example, data about a change in cybersquatting behavior after Claims ends), but
lots of data to show us problems with the existing TM Claims and the problems of the current 90 day period turning many potential registrants back. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.5pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.5pt">I am concerned that, if we recommend this option specifically, we are implicitly suggesting that it is an offering we {subteam/WG) support when we don't. Given the existing concerns with claims, blessing perpetual claims--even
as an apparently ICANN approved "option" rather than as a mandate--is not a good idea.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.5pt">I would strike the middle sentence in Kristine's formulation. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Gnso-rpm-trademark <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-trademark-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-trademark-bounces@icann.org</a>>
on behalf of Dorrain, Kristine via Gnso-rpm-trademark <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org">gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 24, 2019 5:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ariel Liang; <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org">gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-rpm-trademark] [Discussion Thread] TM Claims Q5</span> <o:p>
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<p class="xmsonormal0"><span style="color:#1F497D">Proposed language for Q5:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal0"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal0"><b><span style="color:#2E75B6">Generally, the WG recommends a uniform minimum duration of 90 days for Claims periods where the RO has not obtained an exemption (See Q1). We do recommend ROs continue to be allowed to extend the Claims
period (up to and including in perpetuity) if desired. We have questions for the community in Q1 related to potential scenarios for allowing some RO business models to obtain an exemption for Claims that may or may not be based on “types” of gTLDs (an undefined
term).</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal0"><b>From:</b> Gnso-rpm-trademark <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-trademark-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-trademark-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ariel Liang<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 17, 2019 10:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org">gnso-rpm-trademark@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-rpm-trademark] [Discussion Thread] TM Claims Q5<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal0"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Dear Trademark Claims Sub Team members, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal0"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>As announced, this thread is being opened for final mailing list discussions related to
<b>Trademark Claims Agreed Charter Question 5</b>. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal0"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>We ask that you review the <b>Summary Table</b> <b>(as of 17 May 2019) </b>and provide any additional input you may have to the “<b>tentative answers & preliminary recommendations</b>” in relation to the Agreed Charter Question.
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<p>Unless the Sub Team Co-Chairs determine otherwise, this discussion thread will remain open until
<b>23:59 UTC on 29 May 2019</b>. Comments/input provided past the closing date or outside this discussion thread will not be taken into account when compiling the final Sub Team member input.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style="background:yellow">Summary Table </span>(Pages 26-28)</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="font-variant-caps:normal;orphans:auto;text-align:start;widows:auto;word-spacing:0px">
The draft answers, preliminary recommendations, and links to the relevant individual proposals are in the latest Summary Table (as of 17 May 2019):
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_download_attachments_102138613_-255BClaims-2520Summary-2520Table-255D-2520-252817-2520May-25202019-2529.pdf-3Fversion-3D1-26modificationDate-3D1558112544184-26api-3Dv2&d=DwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=E-M4OQvQBo8UWqE1LwEiDR3PcWlfM0I-0jiI1c4ous0&m=sz5KNkF1dX7qXI0OUuU_65op2jGtdRduaa-TzOaOibY&s=aU1L9f64t8pDXnLhLlkOaeGrzEFMUAN9fM_zJwnFkRI&e=">
https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/102138613/%5BClaims%20Summary%20Table%5D%20%2817%20May%202019%29.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1558112544184&api=v2</a>
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<p class="xmsonormal0"><b><span style="background:yellow">Agreed Trademark Claims Question 5</span>
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<p class="xmsonormal0">The Sub Team just discussed Agreed Charter Question 5 on 15 May 2019, hence the proposed answers are “TBD”. Based on the Sub Team’s discussions, the transcript and notes, staff will provide update.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal0"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal0"><b><i>Q5</i></b><i>: Should the Trademark Claims period continue to be uniform for all types of gTLDs in subsequent rounds?</i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal0"><b><u>Proposed Answer</u>: </b>TBD<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal0"><b><span style="background:yellow">Where to Find All Discussion Threads</span>
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<p class="xmsonormal0">Access the Documents wiki page and find the opening messages of the all discussion threads in the table (highlighted in green):
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_9YIWBg&d=DwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=E-M4OQvQBo8UWqE1LwEiDR3PcWlfM0I-0jiI1c4ous0&m=sz5KNkF1dX7qXI0OUuU_65op2jGtdRduaa-TzOaOibY&s=W0cIDub4I7qYLA2YafLi7mTGvAk8rIAtswXm8vGs8g0&e=">
https://community.icann.org/x/9YIWBg</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Mary, Julie, Ariel <o:p></o:p></p>
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