[gnso-rpm-wg] Suggestion for Leadership Team

Tue Apr 12 17:35:24 UTC 2016

Hello again everyone,

Given that the group discussion is focusing on the question of the most appropriate configuration and numbers for the leadership team, I’d like to note that Petter Rindforth had also previously self-nominated for a vice-chair position. As such, the full slate of candidates for all chair-related positions (including just for vice-chair) is, in alphabetical order:

  *   Phil Corwin (nominated/supported for chair/co-chair)
  *   J. Scott Evans (nominated/supported for chair/co-chair)
  *   Danny Glix (nominated for co-chair)
  *   Kathy Kleiman (nominated/supported for chair/co-chair)
  *   Petter Rindforth (nominated/supported for vice-chair)

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Mary

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From: <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Volker Greimann via gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>>
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Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 11:30
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Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Suggestion for Leadership Team

Hi Greg,

I think there is a good balance here, despite your concerns:
If as you say, represents business interests with an IP focus, Kathy represents users of domain names and Phil presents owners of domain names, there is no real overlap here, and even if there were, the leaderships role is a neutral one and one's own position should not influence the work, wouldn't you agree?

While having a leadership position filled by the CPH may be desirable, there has been no nomination or volunteer that would fit that slot, AFAIK.

Best,

Volker

Am 12.04.2016 um 17:04 schrieb Greg Shatan via gnso-rpm-wg:
I think the balance issue cuts rather differently, and a vice-chair from the Contracted Parties House might actually exacerbate the issue.

If we are talking about "formal" representation, both J. Scott and Phil are members of the Business Constituency, so it's not fair to say that Phil, but not J. Scott, represents "business interests."  On an informal or "de facto" level, J Scott tends to represent (or at least stand for) the interests of businesses for whom IP is a significant asset, while Phil represents (and actually does represent) the interests of domain investors (a very specific sector of the business community for whom IP is, at best, not a significant asset). As such, Phil's perspectives are far more aligned with those represented by Kathy, and that is the imbalance to which I refer.

My suggested configuration was intended to find a role for all 3 volunteers, while maintaining some sort of balance.  If Phil's not interested in the GNSO Liaison role, in spite of the fact that it's the role he volunteered for at Council, that's fine.  However, that does make it appear that this was done as a steppingstone to the Chair and not out of interest in the role on its own merits.  Of course, I may be reading too much into things.

I'd like to stress that I have the highest respect, and even affection, for all 3 volunteers, and for their contributions to ICANN over the years.  But the configuration of our leadership team has to take other things into account.

Greg

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Jonathan Frost via gnso-rpm-wg <<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>> wrote:
I tend to agree that there might be balance issues in that  the non-contracted party house would have three representatives and the contracted party house would have none.

I think a viable option would be to  Phil as the Chair, J. Scott and Kathy as Vice Chairs, and a third vice chair from the contracted party house, to balance the equation.

Jonathan

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Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Suggestion for Leadership Team

I have some concerns with this configuration in terms of balance (and related concerns about the accuracy of Volker's categorizations, on both the "formal" and de facto levels).  As such I would instead suggest J. Scott and Kathy as co-chairs, with Phil remaining in the role of GNSO Liaison (the primary role to which Phil was already appointed).

Greg Shatan

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Statton Hammock via gnso-rpm-wg <<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>> wrote:
Also agree with Volker's suggestion.

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On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 6:30 AM, Gabriela Szlak via gnso-rpm-wg <<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>> wrote:
+ 1 to Volker.

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2016-04-12 10:24 GMT-03:00 Volker Greimann via gnso-rpm-wg <<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>>:
Hi all,

with the list of nominations and seconds that we have right now (and provided we will not get any last minute nominations), it looks like Phil, Scott and Kathy have the most support. While none of these candidates represent contracted parties, I do not see this as a problem, as I have great faith in the neutrality of all candidates.

With Phil formally representing business interests, Scott the IP concerns and Kathy the non commercial users, I propose we consider a triumvirate, maybe with one chair and two co/vice-chairs, with Phil as chair and Scott and Kathy as co-chairs.

Best regards,

Volker
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