[gnso-rpm-wg] A Brave New World Without Sunrises or the TMCH

Fri Apr 14 19:44:14 UTC 2017

+1

From: gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of policy at paulmcgrady.com
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:14 PM
To: J. Scott Evans <jsevans at adobe.com>; Jeremy Malcolm <jmalcolm at eff.org>; gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org
Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] A Brave New World Without Sunrises or the TMCH

+1 J Scott.

Jeremy, the practical problem with your example is that the innocent online fruit salesman (of which I know of none except those lovely pears we all send to each other at Christmastime), is quite the rare breed.  In the real world, applefruit.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__applefruit.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=qmi9WrYRGQEDDOxOwKrAjW7mWovpzN_EKyRbeK_zbP0&r=Kepk-9GEB6JgOj0vUGl8c0hdrRM7FW-8Is-VAQU1VAk&m=8R-x5hHce7xjEzVqpaD7aUOt9OC3WHJlNdCE1ylwW0A&s=qz1wFALMM1h1M87IZuQL-oRMLKq16V2qFiH7qFCXDZY&e=> is a Uniregistry provided domain name that is used for pay-per-click ads including those related to the mobile phone, software and computer industry.  I've attached a screenshot but if the ICANN system strips it out, I would be happy to email it to you directly.

If the DNS were populated with fruit farmers, that would be one thing.  But we all know it isn't.  I think we need to quit pretending that the industry isn't what it is.  Instead, I think we need to focus our efforts of incremental, implementable improvements to the RPMs (if any).

Best,
Paul

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Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] A Brave New World Without Sunrises or the
TMCH
From: "J. Scott Evans via gnso-rpm-wg" <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>>
Date: Fri, April 14, 2017 11:10 am
To: Jeremy Malcolm <jmalcolm at eff.org<mailto:jmalcolm at eff.org>>, "gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>"
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Jeremy:

First, even in a .fruit there is no guarantee that apple.fruit would be used for supporting the benefits of the fruit. However, if someone would take responsibility for the use of the second level TLD, that would be different. I am sure a multi-national computer company would have no problem with folks registering and using domains for generic or descriptive purposes or for unrelated purposes. The problem that there is no easy way to thwart having to file an expensive UDRP or more expensive lawsuit to police the misuse of one’s mark. If registries and registrars would enforce the provision of their contracts where the registrant represents that its domain does not infringe on the rights of others that would be one thing, but they don’t. If all new TLDs were sponsored or chartered wherein registration in the TLD required upfront verification that the registrant was in the class of persons for whom the TLD operates (e.g., like a .bank) or if domains were not sold on a first come, first served basis (like Yellow Pages ads in the old phone books), then we wouldn’t have the issues we do.
There are many cost-effective and efficient solutions beyond the Sunrise, but it also would greatly effect the artificial scarcity created by first come, first served sales and the bottom-line of registries that would actually need to take some responsibility to police their TLDs or at least assist TM owners by taking down infringements.

J. Scott

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On 4/14/17, 10:11 AM, "gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Jeremy Malcolm" <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of jmalcolm at eff.org<mailto:jmalcolm at eff.org>> wrote:

On 13/4/17 8:47 pm, Greg Shatan wrote:
> However, I don't think number 2 qualifies as gaming or abuse -- except
> to the extent the trademark owner is being gamed or abused. Indeed,
> one of the failed assumptions of the New gTLD Program seems to have
> been that trademark owners would buy even more defensive registrations
> than they did.

So there's nothing wrong with a company that has a trademark for
computers sunrise registering that trademark in a gTLD that relates to
fruit on the strength of its computer trademark, locking out those who
would actually use that domain name to sell fruit? Sounds like abuse to me.

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