[gnso-rpm-wg] A Brave New World Without Sunrises or the TMCH

J. Scott Evans jsevans at adobe.com
Fri Apr 14 21:56:59 UTC 2017


I think you could say that about 99% of the new gTLDs. Didn’t they recently ask for a reduction in fees? 


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On 4/14/17, 2:54 PM, "gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org on behalf of George Kirikos" <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org on behalf of icann at leap.com> wrote:

    Just to correct my prior email, .pro technically wasn't a "sponsored" TLD.
    
    But, the other ones that were sponsored weren't very successful
    (.post, .aero, .asia, .jobs. mobi, .xxx etc.).
    
    Sincerely,
    
    George
    
    On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 4:47 PM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com> wrote:
    > Hi J. Scott,
    >
    > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 4:22 PM, J. Scott Evans via gnso-rpm-wg
    > <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org> wrote:
    >> My suggestion would be that either we have sponsored TLDs with up front verification or we have a challenge system whereby the challenging party that wants to us the string for a non-infringing purpose could obtain the domain name; provided, however that their use was subject to the requirement that they stick to the stated non-infringing purpose. Failure to do so is a breach of the TOS and the Registry would takedown the domain name if it received a valid complaint. Similar to DMCA.
    >
    > We're trying to achieve the same result, which I see as promising.
    >
    > With respect, it's unfortunate that sponsored TLDs turned out be a
    > disaster. Either they were outright gamed (e.g. people renting out
    > their ".pro" qualifications/credentials/whatever), or domains were
    > mopped up by insiders (e.g. .travel), etc.
    >
    > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdomainnamewire.com%2F2008%2F02%2F22%2Ftheglobecom-to-sell-travel-domain-name-registry%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ce9526ccc5d60494f64c108d48380d39a%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636278036711878269&sdata=32J%2Bjvt04Er7l95pOnnPyVi1dVhcUh%2FOej7zh%2BC1UrM%3D&reserved=0
    >
    > With a "challenge" system, what if there were multiple challengers?
    > Who gets the domain name? What if the sunrise registrant wants the
    > domain name more than the "challenger(s)" does(do)? Who gets it?
    >
    > What I proposed (auction system in landrush, which is how landrushes
    > tend to operate anyhow; i.e. just eliminate the sunrise and go
    > straight to landrush) is entire neutral and "clean." The answers to
    > the above questions are simple: money.
    >
    > No need to reinvent the wheel here. Money has always been the way to
    > solve these allocation issues for scarce resources. Once you start
    > interfering in that (to suggest that someone is "more deserving" of
    > the asset), it invites the gaming we're seeing.
    >
    > It'd be interesting to know the stats on average domains registered in
    > sunrise, by the way, if anyone has those handy. i.e. we know that on
    > average 130 per TLD are registered in sunrise. How many more are being
    > registered in landrush, on average?
    >
    > Sincerely,
    >
    > George Kirikos
    > 416-588-0269
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