[gnso-rpm-wg] List of examples for Deloitte (Re: Action items and updated documents from Working Group call of 15 February)

Jay Chapman jay at digimedia.com
Wed Feb 22 14:42:41 UTC 2017


Agree, Pascal.

Sincerely,
Jay Chapman

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On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 7:26 AM, Pascal Böhner <pascal.boehner at bardehle.de>
wrote:

> That sounds like a good approach: both should be done, so that the WG may
> take both into account.
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> *Von:* gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org]
> *Im Auftrag von *Paul Keating
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 22. Februar 2017 14:11
> *An:* Nahitchevansky, Georges <ghn at kilpatricktownsend.com>; J. Scott
> Evans via gnso-rpm-wg <jsevans at adobe.com>; Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org>
> *Cc:* gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org
> *Betreff:* Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] List of examples for Deloitte (Re: Action
> items and updated documents from Working Group call of 15 February)
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> Then I s suggest we do both?
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> Send the examples AND ask for the list.
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> Paul
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> *From: *Georges Nahitchevansky <ghn at kilpatricktownsend.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 2:00 PM
> *To: *"J. Scott Evans via gnso-rpm-wg" <jsevans at adobe.com>, Paul Keating <
> paul at law.es>, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org>
> *Cc: *"gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] List of examples for Deloitte (Re: Action
> items and updated documents from Working Group call of 15 February)
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> +1
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> *From: *J. Scott Evans via gnso-rpm-wg
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> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 22, 2017 5:48 AM
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> *To: *Paul Keating; Mary Wong
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> *Reply To: *J. Scott Evans
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> *Cc: *gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org
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> *Subject: *Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] List of examples for Deloitte (Re: Action
> items and updated documents from Working Group call of 15 February)
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> Team:
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> I disagree with Paul. I think asking Deloitte to tell us if the textual
> elements of Rebecca’s examples and for an explanation of their analysis
> would be very enlightening and helpful.
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> J. Scott Evans
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> *From: *<gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Paul Keating <
> paul at law.es>
> *Date: *Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 12:10 AM
> *To: *Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org>
> *Cc: *"gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] List of examples for Deloitte (Re: Action
> items and updated documents from Working Group call of 15 February)
>
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> While a laudable effort imho this will not likely receive a useful
> response. It might be more productive to simply request a list of those
>
> Figurative marks that have been accepted.
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> Alternatively ask what rules are applied in practice to determine the
> "prominent" textual aspects of a figurative mark.
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> The issue I feel is not the figurative containing textual elements
> otherwise registrable. Rather we are really after a figurative mark used to
> protect a textual element not otherwise protectable as a trademark.  E.g.
> "Fast Cars" with a green squiggly mark to claim rights in fast cars to sell
> automobiles.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Paul Keating, Esq.
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> On Feb 22, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> I’m sending this message on behalf of Rebecca Tushnet in relation to one
> Action Item from the 15 February Working Group call. This was for her to
> take the lead in suggesting some examples of design marks that we can send
> to Deloitte for their opinion on whether the examples will or will not
> likely be accepted into the TMCH.
>
>
>
> Please review the attached examples and send your comments to this list.
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Mary
>
>
>
> *From: *Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org>
> *Date: *Monday, February 20, 2017 at 12:23
> *To: *"gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Action items and updated documents from Working Group call
> of 15 February
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> This is just a gentle reminder to circulate your suggestions *this week*
> for follow up questions and clarifications for Deloitte, based on the
> Working Group’s discussions to date of the tables for Categories 1 – 6.
>
>
>
> To assist those who were not able to attend both sessions where the tables
> were discussed:
>
> ·         Wiki page containing call recording, transcript and updated
> table from 15 February (discussion of Categories 3 – 6):
> https://community.icann.org/x/TZ3DAw
>
> ·         Wiki page containing call recording, transcript, AC chat,
> updated table from 8 February (last discussion of Categories 1 -2), and
> compilation of TMCH Dispute Resolution Procedures:
> https://community.icann.org/x/Q53DAw.
>
>
>
> Thanks and cheers
>
> Mary
>
>
>
> *From: *Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org>
> *Date: *Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 18:37
> *To: *"gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Action items and updated documents from Working Group call of
> 15 February
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> Please find attached the updated Tabular Summary for Categories 3-6 for
> your review (also posted to the Working Group wiki page with notes and
> recordings for this call, at https://community.icann.org/x/TZ3DAw).
> Please also note the following action items, which are also reflected in
> the updated table.
>
>
>
> *Action Items*:
>
>
>
> ·         On Q7 (design marks) – Rebecca Tushnet to take the lead in
> developing a few examples of hypothetical design marks for sending to
> Deloitte for their views
>
>
>
> ·         On Q8 (Geographical Indicators) – Staff to confirm with OriGIn
> who may be able to submit G.I.s.
>
>
>
> ·         On Q9 (TM+50) – Working Group to review questions submitted by
> the Registries Stakeholder Group with a view toward agreement on whether to
> send them on to Deloitte
>
>
>
> ·         On Q14 (Accessibility) – Working Group to consider if there are
> additional/alternative sources that can provide us with more information.
>
>
>
> ·         [From last week] – please review the updated Tabular Summary
> for Categories 1 & 2 from last week and submit any follow up questions or
> suggestions for Deloitte to this mailing list. The updated document is
> available under Follow Up Notes from the wiki page notes of the call last
> week: https://community.icann.org/x/Q53DAw.
>
>
>
> ·         [From last week] – please review the TMCH Dispute Resolution
> Procedures and suggest areas for discussion or follow up to this mailing
> list. The updated document is available under Follow Up Notes from the wiki
> page notes of the call last week: https://community.icann.org/x/Q53DAw.
>
>
>
> *Next Steps*:
>
>
>
> ·         Staff will compile additional suggestions received from Working
> Group members on possible questions and requests for follow up with
> Deloitte, from both Tabular Summaries for Categories 1 & 2 (from last week)
> and for Categories 3-6. *Please try to submit your feedback by close of
> business in your time zone on Tuesday 21 February at the latest* so that
> we can have a full list ready as soon as possible.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Mary
>
>
>
> *From: *Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org>
> *Date: *Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 11:08
> *To: *"gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Proposed agenda and documents for RPM Working Group call on 15
> February
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> The proposed agenda for the next Working Group call, scheduled for 15
> February 2017 at 1700 UTC, is as follows:
>
>
>
> 1.       Roll call (via Adobe Connect and phone bridge only); updates to
> Statements of Interest
>
> 2.       Review table for Categories 3-6, with view to developing
> additional questions for Deloitte or that require further information
>
> 3.       Next steps/next meeting
>
>
>
> Please note that the table for Agenda Item #2 had been circulated
> previously, on 6 February, and is also available on our Working Group wiki
> space here: https://community.icann.org/x/_pHRAw.
>
>
>
> Please note also the Action Items from the meeting last week, which were
> as follows:
>
>
>
> ·         Over the next week, WG members to review the table for
> Categories 1 & 2 and the discussions to date, in order for staff to compile
> and send all follow up questions to Deloitte before ICANN58 so as to have
> an informed discussion with them at ICANN58 (updated table was circulated
> on 10 February and is also available here: https://community.icann.org/x/
> _pHRAw)
>
> ·         WG members to also review the TMCH Dispute Resolution
> Procedures and agree on any follow up questions for Deloitte (the
> Procedures were circulated on 10 February and are also available here:
> http://trademark-clearinghouse.com/dispute).
>
>
>
> Thanks and cheers
>
> Mary
>
>
>
>
>
> <List of marks to ask Deloitte about - from Rebecca Tushnet - 22 Feb
> 2017.docx>
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