[gnso-rpm-wg] Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group

Wed Jan 4 18:45:35 UTC 2017

My regrets-- am recovering from pneumonia

On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 at 20:40 Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org> wrote:

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> Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3
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> all gTLDs PDP Working Group call held on Wednesday, 04 January 2017 at
> 17:00 UTC. Attendance of the call is posted on agenda wiki page:
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> https://community.icann.org/x/EZ3DAw
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> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-04jan17-en.mp3
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> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO
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> Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/wCWAAw
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> Thank you.
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> Kind regards,
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> Terri Agnew
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> *Adobe Connect chat transcript for 04 January 2017:*
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>        Terri Agnew:Happy New Year! Welcome to the Review of all Rights
> Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group call on
> Wednesday, 04 January 2017.
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>   Terri Agnew:agenda wiki page:
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> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_EZ3DAw&d=DgICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=dgIYY89jaZQ_nGDP_8RMXo97DC7zTmEcMN1NyGGD2D0&s=2WlmuqAsSPtHGD5o-GGt0AzSDvMNJdF0np8_Nl3qNrg&e
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>   George Kirikos:Hi folks. Happy New Year.
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>   Philip Corwin:Hello all and happy new year. I'll be stepping away until
> the call commences
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>   Paul Tattersfield:Hello everyone
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>   George Kirikos:Hey Paul. How's it going?
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>   Paul Tattersfield:Great Goerge and you? I see you had some snow
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>   George Kirikos:I'm doing fine, thanks. I'm cheering for global warning,
> to make our winters milder here. :-)
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>   Elizabeth Featherman:Happy new year!  Sorry I have a client call coming
> up the same time. I hope to rejoin the meeting as soon as possible.
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>   GraceM:can hear you loud and clear
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>   Mary Wong:We will be starting shortly.
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>   J. Scott Evans:I can not dial in. Is 866.692.5726 the correct number?
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>   Mary Wong:J. Scott, yes
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>   George Kirikos:Be sure to have a 1 up front.
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>   J. Scott Evans:I only get a fast busy signal.
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>   George Kirikos:1-866-692-5726
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>   George Kirikos:Have there been any new responses since December 13th?
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>   Mary Wong:@George, no
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>   George Kirikos:Only 3 respondents, and PIR/AFNIC are relatively small
> registry operators.
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>   Terri Agnew:documents are also attached on agenda wiki page:
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>   George Kirikos:Mary has her hand up.
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>  Brian Cimbolic:well at PIR we do opreate .org, but fair point in the new
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>   George Kirikos:@Brian: yes, that's what I meant, i.e. in relation to
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>   Brian Cimbolic:@george - yep absolutely
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>   George Kirikos:More than 3 registries have participants in this PDP, I
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>   Kathy Kleiman:Agree with J. Scott that direct communication with New
> gTLD Registries may be more effective.
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>   Jeff Neuman (Valideus):I believe answers from the registrars for this
> question is going to be more dispositive.  Registries only get access to
> the list of strings, but they do not get the full list of marks in the TMCH
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>   Robin Gross:Direct communication could be very helpful.
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>   Vinzenz Heussler:I agree with Kathy
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>   Brian Cimbolic:I think direct communication is a good idea - but also,
> perhaps asking the other Registries that are part of the PDP to respond
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>   George Kirikos:Sure, direct communication is fine, if the RySG isn't
> doing a good job getting the participation.
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>   GraceM:I wonder how many of the new gTLD registries responded......
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>   Kathy Kleiman:GDD may be able to assist us - with emails or by sending
> the email for us (Global Domains Division)
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>   Petter Rindforth:Is there any admin / policy problems to reach out to
> both groups?
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>   Mary Wong:@Petter, policy staff can contact those WG members that are
> also registries for assistance. As Kathy noted, we will likely ask GDD
> staff for help in sending the email to all New gTLD Registires (although
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>   Petter Rindforth:Thanks, Mary - just a quick 2nd q: What time do we
> have? (As we cannot spend too long time on this topic before we proceed)
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>   Kurt Pritz:We developed questions with each group in mind. There are two
> alternatives for improving participation. One is for ICANN to use its bully
> pulpit and strongly encourage participation. This is a vital part of the
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> policy, they must participate. A second approach that this group censures
> registries in further discussion if they haven't participated in this
> questionaire.
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>   Kurt Pritz:I would have Akram or the CEO write the letter.
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>   Mathieu Weill:as one of the registries who responded (AFNIC) I express
> strong reservations against direct outreach. the questions are tailored to
> registry service providers rather than the 1000 gtld. all these request
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>   Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Converting it to a survey
> format might help too...  a mult-page word doc doesn't rise to the top of a
> busy person's to do list as quickly as a short survey.
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>   Robin Gross:Agree that we might get more responses if we send it as a
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>   Mathieu Weill:maybe the limited number of responses is an information is
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>   Brian Cimbolic:+1 Jeff - good point
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>   Jon Nevett:Agree with Jeff
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>   Lillian Fosteris:I agree with Kristine that a survey may lead to an
> increase in responses
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>   Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:If many registries simply
> need to check "no" or "NA", they can speed through it.
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>   Beth Bacon:+1 Jeff
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>   George Kirikos:Is this PDP considered an "Economic Study"?? See Section
> 2.15 of the new gTLDs standard agreeement:
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>   George Kirikos:2.15          Cooperation with Economic Studies.  If
> ICANN initiates or commissions an economic study on the impact or
> functioning of new generic top-level domains on the Internet, the DNS or
> related matters, Registry
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>   Jeff Neuman (Valideus):@George no
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>   Robin Gross:staff couldn't develop a survey quickly?
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>   Jeff Neuman (Valideus):And I wouldnt go there
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>   Petter Rindforth:Definitely - make it simple but clear. We need no
> novels just a reply to a Q&A
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>   George Kirikos:I think it's open to interpretation....it's a policy
> study, and has economic impacts.....
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>   Jeff Neuman (Valideus):@George - Again, I would take the friendly
> approach and talk directly to them.  More likely to respond as opposed to
> fighting whether this is the economic study or not
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>   George Kirikos:Agree that friendly approach is best.
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>   Kurt Pritz:I agree with Mary: the division of labor as I see it is the
> working group prepares the data regquired and fashions questions; ICANN
> staff formats them in a way to engender participation - whether that is a
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>   Jay Chapman:sorry  - check :)
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>   Mary Wong:Note also that the questions encompass also Sunrise and Claims
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>   Terri Agnew:Next call: Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs
> PDP Working Group is scheduled for Wednesday, 11 January 2017 at 18:00 UTC
> for 60 minutes.
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>   Paul Tattersfield:Whats the reason for moving calls between 18:00 and
> 17:00 wouldn't a single time be more memorable?
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>   J. Scott Evans:Paul: We have people from all over the world. We move the
> time in order to accommodate our non-North American members.
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>   George Kirikos:Bye folks.
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>   Paul Tattersfield:I appreciate that JS but 1 hr!
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>   Philip Corwin:@Paul -- ,also I think there is a conflict with a regular
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>   Greg Shatan:First Wake Up Call of the New Year. :-)
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>   Greg Shatan:Bye all!
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>   Robin Gross:Thanks J. Scott and all.  Bye.
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>   susan payne (valideus):bye
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>   Paul Tattersfield:thanks Phil
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>   Paul Tattersfield:Bye all
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jonathan matkowsky, vp - ip & head of global brand threat mitigation
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