[gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items from Review of all RPMs in all gTLDs PDP Working Group Call - 31 May 2017

Mon Jun 5 03:08:53 UTC 2017

I agree with Jon's edits and Kurt's proposal with regards to version for
the sub team's further action.

I also would be particularly interested to know the answer to Jon's Q3 in
due course and how they could/would do so.

Thanks,

Justine Chew
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On 5 June 2017 at 08:34, Kurt Pritz <kurt at kjpritz.com> wrote:

> Along with Greg, I support Jon’s edits and support them for the reasons
> cited by Jon and Greg. I could not put the reasoning any better than Jon
> and Greg have.
>
> With that in mind, I support handing this document off to the sub team in
> the version Jon suggests. This is especially true if the sub-group’s task
> is limited to information gathering as they should not be spending valuable
> time investigating the out-of-scope questions.
>
> Thx & regards,
>
> Kurt
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> On Jun 4, 2017, at 11:33 AM, Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com> wrote:
>
> Jon:
>
> I can’t speak for the other two co-chairs, but so far the task of our
> subteams has been largely confined to refining and filling gaps in the
> draft questions, and identifying the data needed to provide answers and the
> feasibility of finding such data. I would think that would be the same for
> the subteam doing scout work on these non-mandated, market-supplied RPMs.
>
> I guess we may have some further discussion of what we are seeking this
> subteam to do during Wednesday’s call, but once we hand it off to them the
> subteam members will get into the details and decide how to proceed.
>
> I welcome further thoughts from the other co-chairs, or from any WG
> members.
>
> Best, Philip
>
> *From:* Jon Nevett [mailto:jon at donuts.co <jon at donuts.co>]
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 04, 2017 1:36 PM
> *To:* Phil Corwin
> *Cc:* Jon Nevett; Scott Austin; Susan Payne; Mary Wong; Greg Shatan;
> icannlists; gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items from Review of all RPMs in all
> gTLDs PDP Working Group Call - 31 May 2017
>
> Thanks Phil. I'd like the co-chairs agreement that the sub-group's charge
> is limited to such information gathering. Otherwise, we do have an issue
> for the full committee and I would object to the sub-group starting work
> without knowing the scope of its work.
>
> Best,
>
> Jon
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your feedback, Jon, and for your proposed edit of the draft
> Subteam questions.
>
> I appreciate your agreement “that information about additional protections
> voluntarily offered by some registries in the marketplace may be helpful to
> the WG in evaluating the actual RPMs that we are chartered to review”, as
> that is consistent with the Co-Chairs’ view that we have to understand the
> full scope of and interplay between available RPMs – ICANN-mandated plus
> additional services provided by the TMCH and registries – to comprehend the
> entire ecosystem and make informed decisions going forward.
>
> On Friday’s Co-chair call we reached general agreement that further
> development of the draft questions prepared by us should fall to the
> Subteam charged with reviewing and refining them and then sending them back
> to the full WG for additional work. Hopefully the subteam members will
> reach consensus on the scope of our inquiry and their consistency with our
> Charter.
>
> As the discussion on Wednesday’s call of this subject should be largely
> confined to our decision to delegate further refinement you shouldn’t miss
> much and in any event will be able to review the mp3 and transcript. I
> believe that you have volunteered to be a subteam member so you can are
> assured that your views will be fully considered as it engages.
>
> Best regards, Philip
>
> *From:* Jon Nevett [mailto:jon at donuts.email <jon at donuts.email>]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 02, 2017 6:26 PM
> *To:* Scott Austin
> *Cc:* Susan Payne; Phil Corwin; Mary Wong; Greg Shatan; icannlists;
> gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items from Review of all RPMs in all
> gTLDs PDP Working Group Call - 31 May 2017
>
> WG Members:
>
> I would like to remind folks that our Phase 1 charter defines the RPMs for
> us to review as the URS; the TMCH and as used in Sunrise and Trademark
> Claims; and the PDDRP.  We are not chartered to evaluate Commercial Online
> Protection Services; Non-Mandated RPMs; Registry Specific RPMs; Voluntary
> Registry Protections; Voluntary Registry Mechanisms; Voluntary Registry
> RPMs; or even Private RPMs.
>
> With that said, I have long agreed that information about additional
> protections voluntarily offered by some registries in the marketplace may
> be helpful to the WG in evaluating the actual RPMs that we are chartered to
> review.  With that context in mind, I offer the suggested changes to the
> proposed draft questions in the attached.  I deleted certain
> references/questions about how/whether ICANN approves such additional
> private protections; whether they are consistent with policy decisions;
> commentary on an RPM that wasn't approved and how it may relate to some
> additional protections currently offered.  Some of those questions and
> commentary are superfluous and irrelevant to our task at hand and would
> just lead us down a proverbial rabbit hole.
>
> What I hope we want from the sub-group is information about additional
> protections in the marketplace to help inform our task of reviewing actual
> RPMs and not an attempt at an extra-charter review of individual registries
> services.  I am supportive of the former and happy to provide information
> as such, but am definitely opposed to the latter.
>
> Unfortunately, I am taking a red-eye flight on Wednesday and will not be
> available for our next call.  I would appreciate this issue being kicked to
> the following call if there is any need for discussion of the group.  Much
> appreciated.
>
> Best,
>
> Jon
>
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