[gnso-rpm-wg] FW: TMCH data on abandonment
Paul Keating
paul at law.es
Tue Jun 13 11:20:22 UTC 2017
+1
Well said Volker.
Sent from my iPad
> On 13 Jun 2017, at 13:04, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote:
>
> Just for clarification:
>
> The disclosure of a list of publicly registered rights that by themselves can be researched in any trademark database is considered unthinkable, but the publication of the private address details of every registrant is very much a reasonable ask?
>
> The two positions seem to be diametrically opposed but it is the same people supporting both positions, so there must be some logic there that escapes me.
>
> Best,
>
> Volker
>
>
>> Am 12.06.2017 um 17:08 schrieb Kiran Malancharuvil via gnso-rpm-wg:
>> +1
>>
>> Kiran Malancharuvil
>> Policy Counselor
>> MarkMonitor
>> 415-419-9138 (m)
>>
>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
>>
>>> On Jun 12, 2017, at 5:45 AM, Marie Pattullo <marie.pattullo at aim.be> wrote:
>>>
>>> + 1. I thought that discussion was closed.
>>> Marie
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone, sorry for typos
>>>
>>>> On 12 Jun 2017, at 14:43, J. Scott Evans via gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I do not nor will I ever support disclosure of the marks registered in the TMCH.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 12, 2017, at 5:03 AM, Paul Keating <Paul at law.es> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "what we don't know probably exceeds what we do²
>>>>>
>>>>> Could NOT agree more.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suggest we focus on what information we need in order to properly
>>>>> analyze and discuss the issue. For this I see us in need of the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> A listing of the marks in the TMCH
>>>>> Information from registrars that may indicate abandonment in the context
>>>>> of the claims notice process. I cannot seriously believe that the
>>>>> registrars do not have this data given its importance in the continued
>>>>> process of refining the UI and maximizing revenues. If it is an issue of
>>>>> confidentiality, I am happy to limit the disclosure of the information to
>>>>> Staff or if that is not acceptable then to a third party who can be
>>>>> retained (and paid) to review and analyze the data for us. Failing that
>>>>> we could perhaps approach several of the larger registrars in this area
>>>>> (new Gtld registrations) and ask that they run a test for a specified
>>>>> period. IF that results in a delay we can defer this issue until we have
>>>>> the data.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/9/17, 6:22 PM, "Phil Corwin" <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org on behalf
>>>>> of psc at vlaw-dc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This thread has wound on quite a bit since Brian's original post, but
>>>>>> since my name came up in his let me add a few thoughts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian's email stated:
>>>>>>> In the transcript for the Sub Team for Trademark Claims call on
>>>>>> Friday, 02
>>>>>>>> June 2017 at 16:00 UTC, there was some discussion on
>>>>>> abandonment rates...
>>>>>>> Phil Corwin suggested that if the non-TMCH-related abandonment
>>>>>> rate was 80% then it may
>>>>>>>> be reasonable to conclude that there¹s not a material
>>>>>> difference between
>>>>>>>> those subject to claims notices.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mindful that it may be difficult or even impossible to
>>>>>> obtain the desired
>>>>>>>> data (a number of reasons, including competitive
>>>>>> (dis-)advantages, were
>>>>>>>> raised on the call), a recent GoDaddy post informs us
>>>>>> that ³An average
>>>>>>>> website loses 69 percent of sales to abandoned carts.²
>>>>>> A second GoDaddy
>>>>>>>> article suggests it is 67%.
>>>>>> I haven¹t reviewed the transcript of that call, but I just pulled the 80%
>>>>>> number out of a hat and my intended point was that if there was just a
>>>>>> small difference between abandonment rates of initiated domain
>>>>>> registrations that did and did not generate claims notices then it might
>>>>>> be reasonable to conclude that the received warning was having its
>>>>>> intended targeted effect (deterring cybersquatting) and not causing
>>>>>> significant abandonment of non-infringing domain registrations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It appears that the GoDaddy cart abandonment statistics relate to general
>>>>>> ecommerce websites and not specifically to registrar websites so it would
>>>>>> be useful to get data from registrars as to what their general cart
>>>>>> abandonment rate is. But if it is 68% for initiated domain registrations
>>>>>> then the 94.7 abandonment rate measured by the Analysis group would be
>>>>>> 39.2% higher and that would seem statistically significant and indicative
>>>>>> that non-infringing registrations may be deterred. (Noting for the record
>>>>>> that we don't know how many of the abandoned registrations measured by AG
>>>>>> were never intended to go to completion but were initiated for other
>>>>>> purposes -- and that of the abandoned attempts that were intended to be
>>>>>> completed we have no way of knowing which were initiated by intentional
>>>>>> cybersquatters and which came from innocent parties with no infringing
>>>>>> intent and whose actual domain use would not have been infringing.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We also don't know the effect of a claims warning receipt on an
>>>>>> intentional cybersquatters versus innocent would-be registrants. Just as
>>>>>> warning signs of home security systems may not deter a professional
>>>>>> burglar, intentional cybersquatters may know the risk of detection and
>>>>>> factor it into their business model. On the other hand, outside the ICANN
>>>>>> bubble, most would be domain registrants are unlikely to have a law
>>>>>> degree and upon receiving a notice warning of potential legal
>>>>>> consequences if they complete the transaction may decide they don't wish
>>>>>> to expend half a month's grocery money to consult with a trademark
>>>>>> attorney.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None of this is to say that the Claims Notice does not have merit or that
>>>>>> we should not consider possible generation of notices, or at least notice
>>>>>> to trademark holders of completed registrations, for some classes of
>>>>>> non-exact matches. But it's clear that we also need more and better data
>>>>>> because what we don't know probably exceeds what we do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We should also be mindful that we must maintain a reasonable balance
>>>>>> between the scope of this RPM and its impact on domain registrants with
>>>>>> no infringing intent, especially if their actual use of the domain would
>>>>>> be lawful. Let's take a pragmatic view and recognize that any
>>>>>> policymaking exercise is not an academic but an inherently political
>>>>>> process and that "politics is the art of compromise". Also, as contracted
>>>>>> parties in the business of creating and selling domains make up half the
>>>>>> GNSO Council that must approve our final work product (lest all our work
>>>>>> be for naught) that would suggest that our work should seek to assure
>>>>>> that Claims Notices perform their intended effect of effectively
>>>>>> deterring intended cybersquatting while minimizing the deterrence of
>>>>>> legitimate domain registrations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best, Philip
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
>>>>>> Virtualaw LLC
>>>>>> 1155 F Street, NW
>>>>>> Suite 1050
>>>>>> Washington, DC 20004
>>>>>> 202-559-8597/Direct
>>>>>> 202-559-8750/Fax
>>>>>> 202-255-6172/Cell
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Twitter: @VlawDC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>>>>> [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of J. Scott Evans via
>>>>>> gnso-rpm-wg
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 11:00 AM
>>>>>> To: Volker Greimann; gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] TMCH data on abandonment
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Volker:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for this perspective. I know that my marketing team struggles with
>>>>>> what they call ³stickiness² of a registration process. Specifically, they
>>>>>> are always looking for ways to streamline the registration process
>>>>>> because the ³stickier² the process (the more steps need to complete
>>>>>> registration) leads to a high drop off rate. Your antidotal evidence
>>>>>> certainly aligns with the same type of situation my folks at Adobe find
>>>>>> difficult in selling our subscriptions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J. Scott Evans
>>>>>> 408.536.5336 (tel)
>>>>>> 345 Park Avenue, Mail Stop W11-544
>>>>>> Director, Trademarks
>>>>>> 408.709.6162 (cell)
>>>>>> San Jose, CA, 95110, USA
>>>>>> Adobe. Make It an Experience.
>>>>>> jsevans at adobe.com
>>>>>> www.adobe.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/9/17, 7:52 AM, "gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org on behalf of Volker
>>>>>> Greimann" <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org on behalf of
>>>>>> vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There can be a significant drop-off due the necessity to present this
>>>>>> notice seperate from the purchase process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Examples:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Potential Registrant pre-orders a domain: the notice cannot be
>>>>>> presented at the time of purchase
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) Potential Registrant orders the domain through a reseller with its
>>>>>> own front-end: the notice cannot be presented by the registrar in the
>>>>>> purchase process
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Result => Notice has to be presented after the order is received but
>>>>>> before it is executed in an alternate process, usually email. While
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> have not at the time measured the actual rate, we did note a
>>>>>> significant
>>>>>> drop-off between the numbers of registrants directed to visit a
>>>>>> website
>>>>>> where the notice could be presented and confirmed and the number of
>>>>>> mails sent. The drop-off between the number of customers visiting the
>>>>>> site, seeing the notice and then deciding not to pursue the
>>>>>> registration
>>>>>> was smaller.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Conclusion: The current noticeconfirmation process that is supposed
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be in the registration path does not work well in real life for many
>>>>>> industry sales channel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Volker
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 09.06.2017 um 16:28 schrieb J. Scott Evans via gnso-rpm-wg:
>>>>>>> Brain. Point taken. I don¹t mean to be flippant. That said, I am
>>>>>> growing increasing tired of there always being a negative inference from
>>>>>> behaviors from those that are overall hostile to RPMs in general. My
>>>>>> point is that as a proponent of RPMs and someone who worked diligently
>>>>>> for over 9 months to come up with these RPMs that the abandonment rate
>>>>>> does not automatically indicate that the system is not working as
>>>>>> intended.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> J. Scott Evans
>>>>>>> 408.536.5336 (tel)
>>>>>>> 345 Park Avenue, Mail Stop W11-544
>>>>>>> Director, Trademarks
>>>>>>> 408.709.6162 (cell)
>>>>>>> San Jose, CA, 95110, USA
>>>>>>> Adobe. Make It an Experience.
>>>>>>> jsevans at adobe.com
>>>>>>> www.adobe.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/9/17, 7:24 AM, "Brian F. Cimbolic" <BCimbolic at pir.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> J. Scott, respectfully, what evidence is there that the Claims
>>>>>> notice provided to registrants is not having a chilling effect for those
>>>>>> with no intention to infringe? I understand there is not direct evidence
>>>>>> on either side of the issue, but to say decisively that it is "Not so"
>>>>>> about the chilling effect without providing some evidence seems
>>>>>> unnecessarily flippant.
>>>>>>> Brian Cimbolic
>>>>>>> Deputy General Counsel, Public Interest Registry
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>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>>>>> [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of J. Scott Evans via
>>>>>> gnso-rpm-wg
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 10:19 AM
>>>>>>> To: Rebecca Tushnet <Rebecca.Tushnet at law.georgetown.edu>;
>>>>>> Beckham, Brian <brian.beckham at wipo.int>
>>>>>>> Cc: gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] TMCH data on abandonment
>>>>>>> Importance: High
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will remind the group that Abandonment is the point. The TM
>>>>>> Claims notice is designed to inform would-be innocent infringers that
>>>>>> there is an issue. A high abandonment rate show that the system is
>>>>>> working. I realize those hostile to the TM Claims feel that a high
>>>>>> abandonment rate is proof that the Claims notice is overreaching. Not so.
>>>>>>> J. Scott
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> J. Scott Evans
>>>>>>> 408.536.5336 (tel)
>>>>>>> 345 Park Avenue, Mail Stop W11-544
>>>>>>> Director, Trademarks
>>>>>>> 408.709.6162 (cell)
>>>>>>> San Jose, CA, 95110, USA
>>>>>>> Adobe. Make It an Experience.
>>>>>>> jsevans at adobe.com
>>>>>>> www.adobe.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/9/17, 7:16 AM, "gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org on behalf
>>>>>> of Rebecca Tushnet" <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org on behalf of
>>>>>> Rebecca.Tushnet at law.georgetown.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>> I agree with Paul K. Unfortunately, we need better
>>>>>> information than
>>>>>>> that--we need to know about, of attempts that reached the
>>>>>> stage at
>>>>>>> which a notice would be provided, how many were abandoned.
>>>>>> It's my
>>>>>>> understanding--though I'd be happy to learn more--that the
>>>>>> notice
>>>>>>> wouldn't come when the shopping cart was filled but at
>>>>>> checkout.
>>>>>>> If we just don't have the data, then it may be that our
>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> recommendation must be to get the data.
>>>>>>> Rebecca Tushnet
>>>>>>> Georgetown Law
>>>>>>> 703 593 6759
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 4:56 AM, Beckham, Brian
>>>>>> <brian.beckham at wipo.int> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I¹m not sure what is the right venue (i.e., in the
>>>>>> sub-group, of which I am
>>>>>>>> not a member, or to the full WG) to offer this, and it
>>>>>> is offered merely to
>>>>>>>> help fill out some of the questions/discussion around
>>>>>> seeking various
>>>>>>>> TMCH/Claims-related data.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the transcript for the Sub Team for Trademark Claims
>>>>>> call on Friday, 02
>>>>>>>> June 2017 at 16:00 UTC, there was some discussion on
>>>>>> abandonment rates. In
>>>>>>>> summary: Rebeca Tushnet suggested it would be helpful
>>>>>> to compare
>>>>>>>> non-TMCH-related abandonment vs ³regular² abandonment.
>>>>>> Jeff Neuman recalled
>>>>>>>> that during the BIZ launch there was a high abandonment.
>>>>>> Phil Corwin
>>>>>>>> suggested that if the non-TMCH-related abandonment rate
>>>>>> was 80% then it may
>>>>>>>> be reasonable to conclude that there¹s not a material
>>>>>> difference between
>>>>>>>> those subject to claims notices.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mindful that it may be difficult or even impossible to
>>>>>> obtain the desired
>>>>>>>> data (a number of reasons, including competitive
>>>>>> (dis-)advantages, were
>>>>>>>> raised on the call), a recent GoDaddy post informs us
>>>>>> that ³An average
>>>>>>>> website loses 69 percent of sales to abandoned carts.²
>>>>>> A second GoDaddy
>>>>>>>> article suggests it is 67%.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.godad
>>>>>> dy.com%2Fgarage%2Fsmallbusiness%2Fmarket%2Feffective-strategies-to-boost-a
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>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are many articles on this topic with varying
>>>>>> figures, but they tended
>>>>>>>> to generally note abandonment rates upwards of 60%.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The takeaway is that the TMCH-Claims rates observed here
>>>>>> in the WG, while
>>>>>>>> different/higher, are arguably not materially different
>>>>>> than e-commerce
>>>>>>>> statistics generally (certainly not the 20% noted by
>>>>>> Phil Corwin as
>>>>>>>> signaling ³a significant difference in the completion of
>>>>>> registration.²).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is important here to recall too that many members of
>>>>>> the WG have noted
>>>>>>>> that (for a number of reasons) registries, registrars,
>>>>>> and registrants may
>>>>>>>> have been sending queries in large numbers, thus skewing
>>>>>> the data upwards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brian Beckham | Head, Internet Dispute Resolution
>>>>>> Section | WIPO Arbitration
>>>>>>>> and Mediation Center
>>>>>>>> 34 chemin des Colombettes, 1211 Geneva 20, Switzerland |
>>>>>> T +4122 338 8247 |
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>
> --
> Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
>
> Volker A. Greimann
> - Rechtsabteilung -
>
> Key-Systems GmbH
> Im Oberen Werk 1
> 66386 St. Ingbert
> Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
> Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
> Email: vgreimann at key-systems.net
>
> Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.net
> www.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com
>
> Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
> www.facebook.com/KeySystems
> www.twitter.com/key_systems
>
> Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
> Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
> Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
>
> Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
> www.keydrive.lu
>
> Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Volker A. Greimann
> - legal department -
>
> Key-Systems GmbH
> Im Oberen Werk 1
> 66386 St. Ingbert
> Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
> Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
> Email: vgreimann at key-systems.net
>
> Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.net
> www.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com
>
> Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated:
> www.facebook.com/KeySystems
> www.twitter.com/key_systems
>
> CEO: Alexander Siffrin
> Registration No.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
> V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
>
> Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
> www.keydrive.lu
>
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