[gnso-rpm-wg] RPM March 15 session - questions from George Kirikos

Thu Mar 15 13:46:31 UTC 2018

Since we have no chat: @Susan +1

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-----Original Message-----
From: gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org> On Behalf Of Susan Payne
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 9:44 AM
To: Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com>; gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org
Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] RPM March 15 session - questions from George Kirikos
Importance: High

Actually I think we should take the opportunity of having the providers with us (whether in person or by phone) to get as much information about their processes)  That is what they were asked to prepare for and they have clearly spent time doing so.  It is very discourteous to MSFD and ADNDC to curtail their time in order to direct questions to Forum which are not directly related to what the three providers were asked to present on.  And indeed discourteous to the WG members who would like to hear from them.

I say that not because I want to shield Forum - in fact I suspect Renee would appreciate the opportunity to put this long past history to bed - but because this is clearly something which can be done as a follow up and it is not directly within the scope of the purpose of this meeting with all three providers.

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-----Original Message-----
From: gnso-rpm-wg [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman
Sent: 15 March 2018 09:24
To: gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org
Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] RPM March 15 session - questions from George Kirikos

Hi George, this is going to be a "last 10 minute" question. That's the space reserved for additional questions.

Best, Kathy

On 3/15/2018 8:42 AM, George Kirikos wrote:
> [with the Adobe Connect down, it seems remote participants can only
> ask questions via email]
>
> For NAF:
>
> According to:
>
> [A]
> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://fedsoc.org/commentary/publications/national-arbitration-forum-&c=E,1,pqz4BLWIgIvMsKN2RezTTDmHAyDpj4yKAt5U_B_7vnN6Y-SEYBu_lYZfXwx51B7C86PcmTT6br9Va7JAj__5K76ZXyYZWrQE2MvQthn3&typo=1
> settlement-with-minnesota-attorney-general
>
> "On July 20, 2009, Minnesota Attorney General Lori Swanson announced
> that the country’s largest arbitrator of credit-card and
> consumer-collection disputes would no longer handle consumer
> arbitrations.
>
> The National Arbitration Forum’s decision to end its
> consumer-arbitration business resulted from a settlement it reached
> with the State of Minnesota less than a week after Attorney General
> Swanson sued the company in Ramsey County, Minnesota, accusing the
> company of violating Minnesota’s consumer-fraud,
> deceptive-trade-practices, and false-advertising statutes."
>
> [B]
> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://www.creditcards.com/credit-card-news/minnesota-attorney-genera&c=E,1,9L3XF0WjJmwwF1aQRUF5eVWJz2648MAwOeMZItN2w_2DVQ3JEhn3qFW1epKDBI0tYORvvXZEAwIxEFPm5hL5wBit59w0kdhvVtwya5r0cNQtrk0YfI3ksw,,&typo=1
> l-lawsuit-national-arbitration-forum-1282.php
>
> "The lawsuit claims the NAF, the largest arbitration company in the
> United States, violates state consumer fraud and deceptive trade laws
> by hiding its financial ties to collection agencies and credit card
> companies. The lawsuit also claims the company violates false
> advertising laws by misrepresenting themselves as a neutral
> organization. "
>
> My questions are: (for NAF)
>
> (1) In light of [A], how do NAF's business practices in handling
> domain name disputes differ from those in the consumer-arbitration
> business which it left, and how can domain name registrants be
> confident that the same abuses which were alleged in consumer
> arbitrations are not present in its domain name dispute business?
>
> (2) In light of [B], who are the beneficial owners of NAF, and do they
> have any times to the trademark industry, law firms, or anyone else
> that might affect its neutrality? In other words, what is the
> "Statement of Interest" (SOI) for NAF itself as an organization?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> George Kirikos
> 416-588-0269
> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://www.leap.com/&c=E,1,ybJKZoZH6UYLxjV4MwLwZaKSE9NaU5hGYuUINJRdwPIeUZGN1lUnBq5y1SRuvTsMJCrq_XQqKABBUlkEQJJjqs-GwWUfW8Ym9AbRgAuarZYvhFAbAW5-BQ,,&typo=1
>
> P.S. Further background info at:
>
> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://library.nclc.org/sites/default/files/Arb10_Appx_O-1.pdf&c=E,1,DM-uMqQ74B-kaEYFyekpj5KErtdnjWNRhzo7KfROUcNdsBW9GLjXzO9XsNToCEoExTvSn_DE_Gb0_5DTatuCaJHYqE5-HIoqinyb7s13561C905zBi2krjRt&typo=1
> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/arbitrationtrap.pdf&c=E,1,vLbTIEeADUV5zKyD5ewcrjUhmKA7VfosjtAeMT0zKCJQ1FCHhrvpxriVFfUauUyrEojraeXAepBNZ50PgsSKIxCOHhiNypjayuzC_PjVt4MGiCC29iennyGHgA,,&typo=1
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_(alternative_dispute_resolution)
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